MotoGP: 2015 Round 17 - Shell Malaysia Motorcycle Grand Prix (SPOILERS)

propagandhi · Oct 25, 2015

xx CURVE xx said:
Watched the replay multiple times.. Yes rossi was running mm wide but mm kept on leaning in on him, bumping caused the fall there was no "kick", you don't lean on a rider if you're on the outside..

no, you let yourself be run out of the track.

is it too early or too late for you guys?
please, do a bump and sharpen your senses.

Mr. Shupe · Oct 25, 2015

I know there are gray areas in sports, but Rossi kicked a man off of a racing motorcycle. This can't be allowed.

moto vudu · Oct 25, 2015

MdubSTYLIE said:
Your avatar has nothing to do with rossi v marc and all to do with you knowing jack ..... I would assume you don't like rossi if you use that pic. Obviously you don't understand my other reference so you should just drop it.

Dude if the avatar is all you can focus on just give up. You don't even know my motives for using the avatar or if I'm a Rossi fan. You just can't for a good argument about the incident today so you're stuck with insults about a stupid avatar.

WVMotoGP99 · Oct 25, 2015

propagandhi said:
i think they should just introduce yellow flags until its absolutely guaranteed that they run close together.

That would just be silly...

evo9 · Oct 25, 2015

JPSLotus said:
Actually for anyone disputing it was a kick, check the camera angle from Rossi's bike that is mounted near the clutch lever. One of the replays showed it, you could see Rossi's left leg move with a distinct kicking motion...not something borne out of contact.

Yep, I saw that along with the overhead view.

steeeeeve · Oct 25, 2015

Well. That's two races in a row Marc rolled over like a dog for JLo to go thru. Then battled the .... out of Rossi. With the pace to beat Jlo no less.
Yes. I remember he beat Jlo in Australia. Ego got in the way.
One or both were going to the floor. Marc was going to see to that. That seemed obvious to me.
Hell. On the incident in question it looks like Marc was going wide and slow to let Rossi go by just so he could stuff it in again.
Rossi put an end to it.
Marc has absolutely nothing to lose. vale has everything. And it showed.

propagandhi · Oct 25, 2015

not as silly as letting this .... slide for the sake of the illusion of a close championship.
nice avi btw

levigarrett · Oct 25, 2015

J4rn0 said:
Not pretty. That was war, -- spectacular, but war. Marc was doing exactly what Rossi had accused him of doing, and he did it openly -- he let Lorenzo go and put up a monumental fight with Rossi. Who eventually lost his nerve and pushed him out. I think both riders (my favorite riders! it pains me) should be penalized -- I say this before knowing what Race Direction decides.

I respect you and your input here. Truly, but MM was racing Rossi at every corner and when Rossi was unable to clear off, he cheated. He ran wide, closed the throttle and purposely caused contact. Anyone who rides a motorcycle can see that his line was all wrong, he was looking over his right shoulder in a left hand turn. There is no reasonable explanation for that.

Marc is nobodies ..... and he raced Rossi hard. This isn't all that debatable. Rossi running off course at Laguna was an honest but poorly executed racing incident. This was something entirely different.

Mick D · Oct 25, 2015

propagandhi said:
yeah good point mick.

not like you could fall of from having YOUR ....... HANDLEBAR SMASHED WHILE LEANED OVER WITH CENTIMETERS LEFT ON THE TRACK

Much more reasonable theory than brake lever... my feed was .... today for resolution, so mostly going on what you guys are saying until I get my torrent...

levigarrett · Oct 25, 2015

moto vudu said:
Dude if the avatar is all you can focus on just give up. You don't even know my motives for using the avatar or if I'm a Rossi fan. You just can't for a good argument about the incident today so you're stuck with insults about a stupid avatar.

Forum record. 8 posts to full troll status. Well done.

Now, I'm officially willing to let this all slide with the Haga avatar. I take it all back, you kick ....

moto vudu · Oct 25, 2015

MdubSTYLIE said:
Your avatar has nothing to do with rossi v marc and all to do with you knowing jack ..... I would assume you don't like rossi if you use that pic. Obviously you don't understand my other reference so you should just drop it.

Can you concentrate on the subject at hand now? Or his Haga too much of a distraction for you as well? Your next reply: "OMG, Haga couldn't ride that Duc like he did the R7... you don't know ...... do some research!"

JPSLotus · Oct 25, 2015

Just for the sake of discussion, if MM was looking to hold up VR, does that warrant kicking MM off of his bike? Because what people are essentially doing is now advocating for turning MotoGP into a full-on contact sport where someone could get killed because of a perception of holding up another rider.

You guys need to consider what you're actually opening a door too when you use the "MM was holding him up argument."

Basically you are making it acceptable for any rider who feels it is his god given right to get past another rider, to punt that rider because they can just claim they were being intentionally held up.

steeeeeve · Oct 25, 2015

levigarrett said:
I respect you and your input here. Truly, but MM was racing Rossi at every corner and when Rossi was unable to clear off, he cheated. He ran wide, closed the throttle and purposely caused contact. Anyone who rides a motorcycle can see what his line was all wrong, he was looking over his right shoulder in a left hand turn. There is no reasonable explanation for that.

Marc is nobodies ..... and he races Rossi hard. This isn't all that debatable. Rossi running off course at Laguna was an honest but poorly executed racing incident. This was something entirely different.

Marc appears to be Jlos ..... as for some reason he rolls over and let's him by while having better pace.

gekko1ro · Oct 25, 2015

i think it was a tae kwon do move

JPSLotus · Oct 25, 2015

Lorenzo got booed off of the podium apparently.

Frederique · Oct 25, 2015

Lorenzo begging the FIM on the medias to gift him the title? Really? Wow.

evo9 · Oct 25, 2015

moto vudu said:
Exactly. Marc let Lorenzo right on by then put on boxing gloves for Rossi. Not justifying Rossi's actions, but Marc is also responsible in all of this.

how is Marc responsible? When it is your boy rossi who instigated the that whole ......... Thursday..

michaelm · Oct 25, 2015

xx CURVE xx said:
Watched the replay multiple times.. Yes rossi was running mm wide but mm kept on leaning in on him, bumping caused the fall there was no "kick", you don't lean on a rider if you're on the outside..

The irresistible force meets the immovable object. Dorna has contrived the simultaneous presence on the grid of 2 riders who don' t believe normal rules apply to them.

I have little time for MM, but he didn't seem to do anything "dirty" in the whole exchange this time, and they were racing for position in the race; I don't see that the position in the championship of someone racing for a rival team, in fact his team's main rival, should be a concern of his. Valentino could have made this a non-problem by being in front of Jorge, of course.

JPSLotus · Oct 25, 2015

nick666 · Oct 25, 2015

FRAME BY FRAME ANALYSIS indicates Marquez touched Rossis knee with his helmet when Rossi moved his knee.

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