Malaysian *RACE* thread

[Keshav]

Thats the thing, you pretended it's an educated opinion. He is a racer, therefore is uncultured and nonecreative. I say thats possible, but you are literally guessing. We know that motorcycle racing is his full time occupation, but that's all we really know.



t.

http://www.powerslide.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif My opinion is based on real life experience of being a racer, a good understanding

of racing culture and from deductive reasoning based on over 30 years of observing the racing

scene and time spent in the company of racers. If you insist on being too obtuse to acknowledge this -

then so be it. I'll take my collective experience, reasoned deduction and intuition over your as yet unnamed "sources."

 

[ajithblack]

Like i said, Most Rossi fans understand the dynamics of the race Sunday, which means some dont. No sour grapes here bro, i got what i wanted ,, anyone but Rossi for the title, just wish it had been someone else who got it. Remember way back, when i said that Rossi would win a few meaningless races while Jorge protected his lead and cruised around, there you go.

You may not like Rossi.. but simply ignoring his fight from 11th to 1st is absolutely meaningless...



Per your statement jeorge may have cruised the race, but what about the other 9 whom he passed? were they all told to give way for Rossi?

 

[Pigeon]

Don't worry about the Dynamics of Any race Boppers or Not

Rossi Owe's JT a Drink at least bcs of Motegi...

 

[rossiofsky]

Im going to break my own oath and respond to this clown. Do these words sound familiar



GAME OVER

Have some mercy mr Slave, you killed him with that answer.

 

[rossiofsky]

Some threads just remain small, but if you are going to speculate, well maybe its because "the non-real fans" are to bitter tasting the sour grapes that Lorenzo won the title. Like you.



What is the difference between Simonchelli and Aoyama? Did you miss the entire point? Of course you did moron. Hint: Teammates, one had title on the line. BTW, Simonchelli backed off after, knowing Aoyama was faster, that didn't happen last week, so the blocks continued.





I realize your handle (forum name) says alot about your creative IQ, but it seems your reading ability is no more the wiser. The champs that you cite also said they see both sides, that is that a title was on the line and Lorenzo/Yamaha had a legit perspective. I don't think you skipped that part, its simply your brain can't handle multiple concepts.



This post sounds like a biter pill. What's the problem, you don't like that Lorenzo is in the limelight of a championship at the expense of overshadowing the winner of the race? (Which is what the sudden Lorenzo bitching is really about.)

some of the threads are smaller than others and there are more reasons to it (like some of Stoner fans aren't here yet), but still dedication of the hater's had more than a bit to do with the length of the last thread. I remember you always have less to say whenever Rossi wins a gp, except when there are somethings to ..... about, then you start your hatred campaign with the unfair advantages controversies.





It's good to quote my post if you talk about my comments, I have always liked Lorenzo's riding and i dont remember to have said anything against him. But what i wonder is how/when you became a fan of him, and i dont see you to celebrate his win ieder.



That you can ignore Simoch's action with that explanation, and not ..... about it shows your dubble standards again, untill now you had never missed any chance to show your dislike in form of bs criticises for him, so why not now? Tell me Mr Garrison is it because he undirectly helped your favorite rider this time or you didn't see Any Fault in it? Do you say you have no problems with that kind of ride when it's not between team mates? then How could you ..... about Rossi's move on Gibernou and a few other's, or about Rossi's ride in that last gp which he never touched/raced Lorenzo as hard as Simoch against Aoyama.





Yours and other hater's problem is that you cant enjoy races where Rossi wins and therefor have nothing to say. and that shows itself in the number of pages in this thread.

Usually by now Hater's had brought this thread to more than twenty pages.

Edit: BTW, nice to see you have taken that mask "For the Records, i,m a Rossi fan but..." off your face. with that aviater you didn't need it anymore.

 

[xx CURVE xx]

Rossi Rules..bring on 2011

 

[rossiofsky]

To start with, Nicky did not start pole, 2nd Rossi officially crossed the line in 9th after the 1st lap, partially in thanks to Stoner going down, not 11th

3rd, the leader of the race was running laps over 1 second a lap slower than the pace he had shown he was capable of all weekend. That kept the field bunched and Rossi, to his credit, picked off a bunch of satellite riders to grab 4th by the end of the 3rd lap. Lorenzo was riding so slow, Rossi was turning equal or better times while coming thru traffic. Does that sound like this era of racing,hardly. In a normal race of this era had that had any meaning, Rossi would have found himself out of contention for the win by lap 3. Considering who was out, who crashed, and who was cruising, it was a nice ride, not a ride for the ages.

Sour grapes, nothing more

 

[djm]

Sour grapes, nothing more

rossi lost. game over

 

[inam22]

rossi lost. game over

Sour grapes, nothing more

 

[dwoodhouse]

Fixed it for you.

No sour grapes here bro, i got what i wanted ,, anyone but Stoner for the title, just wish it had been someone else who got it.

 

[michaelm]

I remember you always have less to say whenever Rossi wins a gp, except when there are somethings to ..... about, then you start your hatred campaign with the unfair advantages controversies.

Such things are sometimes a matter of view point/perspective. Obviously a large amount of ''extracting the urine" to use a colloquialism goes on here, not least by jumkie, but I think his starting point was annoyance with nicky hayden's championship being devalued by claims he had a technical advantage, and similarly with many stoner fans including me in regard to casey's championship which many rossi fans still seem to argue doesn't really count because he had an unfair technical advantage. That's different though I guess, because in your view you guys are right

 

[Talpa]

Sour grapes by a CRY BABY .

Yes indeed rog, pov knows Nicky often goes from 11th to 1st

 

[dwoodhouse]

Such things are sometimes a matter of view point/perspective. Obviously a large amount of ''extracting the urine" to use a colloquialism goes on here, not least by jumkie, but I think his starting point was annoyance with nicky hayden's championship being devalued by claims he had a technical advantage, and similarly with many stoner fans including me in regard to casey's championship which many rossi fans still seem to argue doesn't really count because he had an unfair technical advantage. That's different though I guess, because in your view you guys are right

I remember that year. Yes 2007 was the one where yamaha got confused and only built a 700cc bike. They built their first 800cc bike in 2008.

 

[Jumkie]

championship being devalued by claims he had a technical advantage, and similarly with many stoner fans including me in regard to casey's championship which many rossi fans still seem to argue doesn't really count because he had an unfair technical advantage. That's different though I guess, because in your view you guys are right

Actually Mich, I think you got your devaluations mixed up, Nicky won only by luck remember?



Rossiofsky is claiming this thread to be short because "the real fans" didn't show up implying a lack of "fans" of the sport vs fans of a particular rider, oddly enough the Aragon thread merely managed 123 replies, by far the shortest race thread in a long while. So using his own logic, it seems the "non-real fans" were out to lunch. And I agree with his assessment. Remind me who won that race? Remind me who struggled in that race? Amazing isn't it?



But I don't expect him to follow his own logic for the reason you've state above. They say ignorance is bliss? Well just imagine the self gratification utter stupidity must bring.

 

[Mick D]

Your "live-stream-of-consciousness" sucks ... (as do your posts when you sit there an try to .... an intelligent thought). Spies' head shake could have just as easily been a reflection, like, '...., i remember when I won it all too, wow'. But your stupid first reaction was to make some .... projection upon Lorenzo (didn't you see his head bow several times like if he was having a child?) Who is denying it happened you ....... ....., its your lame ... interpretation that I have issue with you ....... moron.

"Trying to .... an intelligent thought", is all you can come up with... that's rich considering all the verbal diarrhea you've dumped on PS! Yeeaah, "...., i remember when I won it all too, wow"... in this happy-fairy-land interpretation did Ben give Jorge a ....... in the motorhome afterwords with Uccio holding his ... and Peders cradling his nutsack?

 

[Mick D]

BTW anyone who's Jane's friend on FB should check out her Sepang pics! Great work Jane!

 

[basspete]

To start with, Nicky did not start pole, 2nd Rossi officially crossed the line in 9th after the 1st lap, partially in thanks to Stoner going down, not 11th

3rd, the leader of the race was running laps over 1 second a lap slower than the pace he had shown he was capable of all weekend. That kept the field bunched and Rossi, to his credit, picked off a bunch of satellite riders to grab 4th by the end of the 3rd lap. Lorenzo was riding so slow, Rossi was turning equal or better times while coming thru traffic. Does that sound like this era of racing,hardly. In a normal race of this era had that had any meaning, Rossi would have found himself out of contention for the win by lap 3. Considering who was out, who crashed, and who was cruising, it was a nice ride, not a ride for the ages.

"To finish first, first you must finish."



You can't put down a race win because someone else crashed, Stoner fell off, so put himself out of contention. Just as you can't put down Lorenzo's title because Rossi crashed. A title is about who can put the whole season together, and if you can't stay on the bike you are not going to win a race.



Do you honestly think that Lorenzo would have settled for 3rd if he genuinely thought he could win the race? Not a chance, if he could have clinched the title by crossing the line first he would have done it, he's a racer.



Rossi can ride a bike pretty damn well.



Get over it



Pete

 

[michaelm]

Actually Mich, I think you got your devaluations mixed up, Nicky won only by luck remember?

I sometimes get the various spurious and inconsistent arguments along these lines confused.

 

[michaelm]

"To finish first, first you must finish."



You can't put down a race win because someone else crashed, Stoner fell off, so put himself out of contention. Just as you can't put down Lorenzo's title because Rossi crashed. A title is about who can put the whole season together, and if you can't stay on the bike you are not going to win a race.



Do you honestly think that Lorenzo would have settled for 3rd if he genuinely thought he could win the race? Not a chance, if he could have clinched the title by crossing the line first he would have done it, he's a racer.



Rossi can ride a bike pretty damn well.



Get over it



Pete

It was a brilliant win by valentino. Whatever exigencies jorge might have felt he faced, and even more so stoner falling off are irrelevant, like all similar arguments in all such situations. You can't do more than win, which is why on the contrary dovi's performances in the last 2 races neither of which he won can be quibbled with, meritorious though they be.

 

[Jumkie]

Do you honestly think that Lorenzo would have settled for 3rd if he genuinely thought he could win the race? Not a chance, if he could have clinched the title by crossing the line first he would have done it, he's a racer.

Hi Pete, what's up buddy? Good to see you back on the forum.



About Lorenzo finishing 3rd, I think he learned his lesson from the previous week and wasn't about to test fate. He played it safe, of this I have no doubt. That doesn't make Rossi's win less impressive, but it does give it some perspective. All smart champions have done this in their title clinching race, Rossi did it, Stoner did it, Hayden did it, and even Spies in WSBK. Its not uncommon actually.