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Sennas_Caress said:
Whoever wins in the end, deserves it. After 561 races, it will not be down to luck.

Pecco gets asked, time and time again, about the lead Martin has in the championship. I for one don't hear him making excuses. He always starts by saying that someone else has done a better job during a weekend, when he isn't winning. Same after Philip Island.

What is extra painful to him I would assume, is that both Aragon and Misano are tracks where he gains points towards the business end of the season.

This year he didn't.

And he didn't because of a DNF where it was only his fault. It was a racing incident.

Still some way to go though, luckily for us watching.
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I quite like the drip-feed of championships being decided. We had MotoE (which had to stop as it was the last race.) We had the Moto3 championship being decided. It's quite like that the Moto2 championship will be decided in the next race or two. And then maybe MotoGP at the last race.
 
MdubSTYLIE said:
Being that fac spec bikes will go down to only 3 and he is on one isn't really that big of a prediction. Wanna have a real dark horse prediction? Put your money one someone not on a Duc.
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Hmm... I think it is a big prediction. Imagine if someone had predicted that Morbidelli would win this year. With only three GP25s, maybe the odds have narrowed. But, with Marc being on a factory GP25, I think the odds then stretch out again.
 
AnnoyingTwit said:
Hmm... I think it is a big prediction. Imagine if someone had predicted that Morbidelli would win this year. With only three GP25s, maybe the odds have narrowed. But, with Marc being on a factory GP25, I think the odds then stretch out again.
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Morbidelli was new on the Ducati and was coming off some .... results. I think most of us figured he would do better than he has one the current spec bike. No one would argue he is underperforming. Digia has won on the ducati already and proven he can ride it. Digia on the other hand should finish top 3 or its kind of a bust. Whoever is on that bike should be considered most likely to be top 3. Especially losing Jorge and beast to shittier bikes. I expect the difference between the 24 and 25 to be less than the difference between the 24 and 23 duc in rideability but still Ducati is losing their deep talent pool.
 
MdubSTYLIE said:
Morbidelli was new on the Ducati and was coming off some .... results. I think most of us figured he would do better than he has one the current spec bike. No one would argue he is underperforming. Digia has won on the ducati already and proven he can ride it. Digia on the other hand should finish top 3 or its kind of a bust. Whoever is on that bike should be considered most likely to be top 3. Especially losing Jorge and beast to shittier bikes. I expect the difference between the 24 and 25 to be less than the difference between the 24 and 23 duc in rideability but still Ducati is losing their deep talent pool.
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My personal opinion is that Marc Marquez on the factory Ducati equalises all of that and more. 2nd or 3rd in the championship is a very different prediction than 1st. which is what I'm focussed on. This year MM93 is new on the Ducati, and he has well over twice the number of points than the more experienced Digia, and has three wins to Digia's none. Digia doesn't even have a podium, while Marc has nine. (Just counting feature races). I can't see the chance of Digia beating MM93 next year being more than very small indeed.
 
Tibenano said:
In short, to be champion Pecco needs to be the top rider, Martin only needs to be consistent, neither need to throw their races in the gravel.
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Knowing how this season has been going it would be nothing short of a miracle if the both stay upright for the next 3 sprints and 3 races.
misfit said:
🤣 His win today does evoke this sort of hyperbole, doesn’t it? I pray the Aprilla is quick next year. Jorge is a great talent himself. Of course, Marc is a step ahead.
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There are three races left and Jörg is still far away from the finish line. It's admirable how he managed to stay in the championship fight though.
When it was announced he'd leave Ducati I thought he was gonna put too much pressure on himself because this will be his only shot at the title for some time and that Ducati would pull all support from him.
Neither happened and he's been doing one hell of a job all year.
 
I am interested to see how KTM go next year too. They have the rider in Acosta it seems. They need to provide him with the bike to keep him I reckon. Dunno how long his contract is and the formula changes in 2 more years, but 2 more years on a sub standard bike seems too long.
 
I’d like to see Martin win the championship as he might not get the opportunity to be world champion for a number of seasons, also fab to see a satellite team take the rider world championship. Not anticipating Martin to do in 2025 like Toprak this year in WSBK but of course I’d love to see a different manufacturer win
 
JFM01 said:
Knowing how this season has been going it would be nothing short of a miracle if the both stay upright for the next 3 sprints and 3 races.
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What should happen is they both decide independently to race each other and not Marquez - then there'd be a better chance of both finishing all their races.
 
warthog1 said:
I am interested to see how KTM go next year too. They have the rider in Acosta it seems. They need to provide him with the bike to keep him I reckon. Dunno how long his contract is and the formula changes in 2 more years, but 2 more years on a sub standard bike seems too long.
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Pedro Acosta to continue Red Bull KTM story with fresh MotoGP™ contract

The new contract draws the popular racer into the Red Bull KTM structure once more and for a term that will stretch beyond 2025.
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In 2025 you will be back in orange. What do you like about the brand, how does it give you energy and why decide your future lies with KTM in MotoGP?

It was important to me to keep pushing with KTM, and to see the whole project and the story until now and how we have grown in racing. So, it’s nice to carry on for the future: getting in orange is like coming back home. The way they are pushing and improving in the last couple of years is what is also pushing me to stay for the next couple of years.
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Pit Beirer, KTM Motorsports Director: “It gives us great pleasure to announce this news. It is super-cool that we will be together for a few more years. He has a very big future in MotoGP and we really look forward to the next chapter of his career with us.”
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A couple of years seems to be the offical line.

That means that HRC can have an Acosta - Toprak line up for 2027!
 
If we tally up all the podiums this year, both Sprint and Race, ie 102 podiums we see that M Marquez has done 18 of the 20 GP23 podiums and podiums by GP24 makes up 59 of them being 58 by Martin/Bezzecchi/Bastainini and 1 by Morbidelli. The data suggests that next year will be between Bezzecchi and M Marquez. We will see Martin on the podium but not in the championship fight.
Bike​
Podiums (Sprint & Race)​
Aprilia​
9​
GP23​
20​
GP24​
59​
Honda​
0​
KTM​
14​
Yamaha​
0​
Total Result​
102​
 
mikesbytes said:
If we tally up all the podiums this year, both Sprint and Race, ie 102 podiums we see that M Marquez has done 18 of the 20 GP23 podiums and podiums by GP24 makes up 59 of them being 58 by Martin/Bezzecchi/Bastainini and 1 by Morbidelli. The data suggests that next year will be between Bezzecchi and M Marquez. We will see Martin on the podium but not in the championship fight.
Bike​
Podiums (Sprint & Race)​
Aprilia​
9​
GP23​
20​
GP24​
59​
Honda​
0​
KTM​
14​
Yamaha​
0​
Total Result​
102​
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Presumably by Bezzechi you mean Bagnaia?
 
Sennas_Caress said:
That means that HRC can have an Acosta - Toprak line up for 2027!
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Are we ruling out BMW joining in 2027 already?
They just won SBK so MotoGP would be the logical next step.

Even when they're winning in SBK, they're getting a fraction of the attention they could get in MotoGP.
 
JFM01 said:
Are we ruling out BMW joining in 2027 already?
They just won SBK so MotoGP would be the logical next step.

Even when they're winning in SBK, they're getting a fraction of the attention they could get in MotoGP.
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I don't think it's been ruled out yet.
 
Here is the difference between personalities.
Bag is complaining Alex incident is the cause of his points deficit.
Marc has never been whining about anything. Because whining does not change the reality. If something is wrong and it can be fixed then fix it, if it cannot be fixed then whining won't help, either. Only makes you look weak.

Once again the question about losing a match because of a bad line call comes to mind. Federer's response to this question was: If I lose a match because of one bad call then I wasn't strong enough to win it.

In Bagnaia's case there is another point to be made. Regardless who's fault it was, you did not ride like a champion material.
 

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