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Bastianini did just enough. But nothing extra. He should not be getting smoked by Martin , Digi ,the Gresini's or a KTM.

He's on the factory Ducati FFs. How this guy doesn't get more flack for under achieving , I'll never know.

Ducati doesn't have the best record of managing their #2 rider. Miller made it look like they were sane again, but Bastianini's tenure is reminding people--you don't want to be #2 on the factory Ducati squad. Ducati don't seem to support the #2 rider. Instead, they try to psyhack him until he goes faster. Fails stupendously, but they can't seem to help themselves.
 
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Martin gives every appearance of being intrinsically fast, and has far more dominant pace than Miller ever had on a factory Ducati, and is significantly younger than Binder, the main reason you might consider him ahead of. Binder particularly for the longer term. I agree it is absolutely not a given he could match Bonfer on a KTM however.
Martins weakness is he is a Fairweather rider. When things aren't right he falls back considerably. Binder is the opposite in that aspect. But I agree Martin is a really good rider. I just rate Binder slightly higher. I could totally be wrong though.
 
You mean "medium" tires that .... the bed after 6 laps? Pirelli got some 'splainin' to do.

The splainin’ is always the same. We need to cut costs because we aren’t getting paid, and we can’t create value by beating other tire manufacturers on race day. The tires used in race day were made months ago and we weren’t anticipating the conditions or the rubber from WEC blah blah blah
 
The splainin’ is always the same. We need to cut costs because we aren’t getting paid, and we can’t create value by beating other tire manufacturers on race day. The tires used in race day were made months ago and we weren’t anticipating the conditions or the rubber from WEC blah blah blah

What I don't get is how the softer tire was able to last but the medium was not. Guevara had to retire because he had no more tire and the rest on mediums dropped faster than Jack Miller.
 
Not only did Raul have to start from the back of the grid, he also had to start on used tyres
 
You mean "medium" tires that .... the bed after 6 laps? Pirelli got some 'splainin' to do.
It was an exciting race from start to finish. If there was significant tire wear in the Premier class you'd have an area where riders can actually make a difference.
There was very little passing in the MotoGP race because the bikes are too equal and too "perfect". Can't slipstream past someone on the straightaway because every bike has an incredible top speed. Can't make up ground on corner exit because the ride height stuff gives everyone perfect acceleration. Can't outbreak someone because the dirty air makes the front tire overheat.
 
Pretty underwhelming race for me I’m afraid. Pecco rode a like the WC he is, the rest rode the percentages. Not as convinced as many with Binder and hoping that Marc is still on an upward learning curve with the bike. Acosta stood out mainly due to the rest not showing much.
After the tv coverage finished they had a rerun of the WSBK race from Phillip Island so thought I’d have a watch. My first thought when seeing the bikes was, .... me, they look like proper motorbikes not big, wide and fat with .... attached to them MotoGP bikes! The bikes were actually moving around under the riders as if they weren’t on rails and you could see the riders input affecting the bikes handling!
The difference between what MotoGP has become and WSBK is was genuinely shocking! 😬
It was an exciting race from start to finish. If there was significant tire wear in the Premier class you'd have an area where riders can actually make a difference.
There was very little passing in the MotoGP race because the bikes are too equal and too "perfect". Can't slipstream past someone on the straightaway because every bike has an incredible top speed. Can't make up ground on corner exit because the ride height stuff gives everyone perfect acceleration. Can't outbreak someone because the dirty air makes the front tire overheat.
 
Pretty underwhelming race for me I’m afraid. Pecco rode a like the WC he is, the rest rode the percentages. Not as convinced as many with Binder and hoping that Marc is still on an upward learning curve with the bike. Acosta stood out mainly due to the rest not showing much.
After the tv coverage finished they had a rerun of the WSBK race from Phillip Island so thought I’d have a watch. My first thought when seeing the bikes was, .... me, they look like proper motorbikes not big, wide and fat with .... attached to them MotoGP bikes! The bikes were actually moving around under the riders as if they weren’t on rails and you could see the riders input affecting the bikes handling!
The difference between what MotoGP has become and WSBK is was genuinely shocking! 😬
By exciting I meant Moto2. The MotoGP race was boring, quite frankly.
WSBK rocks, even though Bautista dominated last year the racing was still great.
This year the field seems to actually be close and with how underwhelming the MotoGP, F1 and IndyCar season openers were I'm looking even more forward to the next WSBK races.
 
I know I'm not supposed to say that but I was f***ing delighted to see that jerk Adrian Fernandez not finish the Moto3 race.

Meant to ask you about this yesterday but why is he a jerk? I mean he crashed but that happens. Other than that, I thought he rode a pretty good race. Did I miss something?
 
Not only did Raul have to start from the back of the grid, he also had to start on used tyres
Serves him right. His behavior to fight being taken off the grid benefitted him. Had he followed orders he would have had to start from pit lane. Instead he caused a red flag and got to start from the back of the grid. So in the future if a rider stalls on the grid, fight being pulled of grid so you can start from the back. He should be penalized for that.
 
Meant to ask you about this yesterday but why is he a jerk? I mean he crashed but that happens. Other than that, I thought he rode a pretty good race. Did I miss something?
Did you watch last year's Moto3 race at Qatar?
 
Serves him right. His behavior to fight being taken off the grid benefitted him. Had he followed orders he would have had to start from pit lane. Instead he caused a red flag and got to start from the back of the grid. So in the future if a rider stalls on the grid, fight being pulled of grid so you can start from the back. He should be penalized for that.
I agree, the rule has been 100% clear since Argentina 2018 when Marquez had a similar issue. He was also clearly told by race officials to get off the grid. In my opinion, he should have been black flagged.
 
I agree, the rule has been 100% clear since Argentina 2018 when Marquez had a similar issue. He was also clearly told by race officials to get off the grid. In my opinion, he should have been black flagged.
He should have to start from the back in Portimão.
 
Bezzechi: "I had no confidence"

Marco Bezzecchi: ‘I had no confidence, Marquez brothers more competitive’
Looks like, despite a claimed breakthrough in the final test, he is still struggling with the braking issues on his GP23. Sounds ominously similar to the complaints Bastiannini had on the same bike. If so, it's going to be a long season for him regretting not taking that Pramac GP24.

Bastiannini: "Too careful with tyres"

Enea Bastianini "half happy", "it wasn’t the right choice"

Martin: "Cannot use strongest parts of riding style on GP24"

Martin "cannot use strongest parts" of his riding on 2024 Ducati MotoGP bike
 
Bezzechi: "I had no confidence"

Marco Bezzecchi: ‘I had no confidence, Marquez brothers more competitive’
Looks like, despite a claimed breakthrough in the final test, he is still struggling with the braking issues on his GP23. Sounds ominously similar to the complaints Bastiannini had on the same bike. If so, it's going to be a long season for him regretting not taking that Pramac GP24.

Bastiannini: "Too careful with tyres"

Enea Bastianini "half happy", "it wasn’t the right choice"

Martin: "Cannot use strongest parts of riding style on GP24"

Martin "cannot use strongest parts" of his riding on 2024 Ducati MotoGP bike

Well at least he can spend the entire season battling with his buddy Marini
 
Pretty underwhelming race for me I’m afraid. Pecco rode a like the WC he is, the rest rode the percentages. Not as convinced as many with Binder and hoping that Marc is still on an upward learning curve with the bike. Acosta stood out mainly due to the rest not showing much.
After the tv coverage finished they had a rerun of the WSBK race from Phillip Island so thought I’d have a watch. My first thought when seeing the bikes was, .... me, they look like proper motorbikes not big, wide and fat with .... attached to them MotoGP bikes! The bikes were actually moving around under the riders as if they weren’t on rails and you could see the riders input affecting the bikes handling!
The difference between what MotoGP has become and WSBK is was genuinely shocking! 😬

True. WSBK is getting stronger, and balance of performance and eligible parts has leveled the playing field. If GP continues shedding talent, SBK will get stronger. Morbidelli, Vinales, Miller, and Oliveira are all touching 30, and they haven't done much in recent years. If WSBK collects a couple more talented riders, the relationship between WSBK and GP could be closer to that of the 90s, though the fan disparity will probably remain.
 
Funny enough, I've actually considered getting the WSBK Video pass for that reason.
 
What I don't get is how the softer tire was able to last but the medium was not. Guevara had to retire because he had no more tire and the rest on mediums dropped faster than Jack Miller.

Tires are complex and I can't claim to have specific knowledge. The concept relayed to me is that tires are about optimization. If the carcass is too hard it doesn't flex and it won't generate the internal friction necessary to get the compound up to temperature. The tire will cold tear. Similarly, if the rubber compound is too hard for the carcass, the tire won't generate enough grip to flex the carcass, and the tire will fail for a similar reasons.

If the softer tire is in the correct operating temperature, it can outlast a harder tire.
 

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