Le Mans Race

Lorenzo road a masterful race in sketchy condition. CONGRATS!

For a moment I thought we would see a Melandri win! I'd say under the circumstances, its as good as a win. Congrats.

I watched the race with the Cali Kid and we both broke out laughing to see Alberto Pig being hoisted (literally, he need to be lifted) up over the pit wall with Peder's board. The Kid said he thought for a second that the pitboard might say "Marry Me Dani". I guess Pig figured he needed to hold the pit board to motivate Peders because after that Dovi was overtaken like Dai's life depended on it. (homos)


Other notables:

Stoner was smart in holding on for points. Its obvious something wasn't right with his bike.

Rossi is the luckiest man in the world when crashing, he's consistently the only rider that crashes and still manages to finish races. Good effort.

Hayden almost being taken out by Kalio, wow. I'm starting to wonder if we may see a meteor fall out of the sky and slam into his bike this season, it could happen. How can the coverage and the commentators miss this? The people running the tv coverage should be fired for not showing this.

DePuniet, WTF. Get rid of that ELF sponsor and slap on the bunnies, it was working for you.


Last notes:

Its funny to see Tom agreeing with Pinky here. Then he wonders why people routinely .... on him. Perhaps you may consider changing your fav rider from Taki to Pinky.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 17 2009, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im not saying the interview Keshav posted was false. That interview was after what matt and suppo were talking about. as i said im only saying what suppo and matt said, nothing to do with this interview of which you talk . It had to be after because what matt and suppo were on about was stoner riding past his team and into the garage, so unless he now does onboard radio interviews he had time to settle down and compose himself for this interview. As i said immediately after the race he refused to talk to anybody. mabe this interview of which i speak will be posted up on the bbc iplayer sometime soon. just checked and its not yet.

Not being argumentitive in any way. Where did you see this stuff about suppo and matt? Were you watching a feed from Europe?

I'm rooting for Jorge too.

Proof that Livio is a .... and still think's the bike is perfect (Autosport.com):

On Melandri
"He needed different motivation and no pressure," Suppo said. "At this moment he has no pressure because he's on a bike that nobody believes is a good bike, but maybe it is.
"Not being made to do a comparison with a team-mate is a totally different situation for him. I'm personally happy for him that he's doing well."

On Hayden's
"Hayden was a bit unfortunate, because when Kallio fell he collided a bit with him, so he has a big mark on the bodywork, and a wire got ripped," Suppo explained.
"So nothing serious, but he had the discs dirty for a while. The performance is still far from what we expected, but we're working. He is certainly more positive, he's had a decent warm-up. It's clear that after such a difficult start of the season he needs to regain his confidence."

I also think people overlook that in 2007 Stoner didn't have to ride the bike as hard. The GP07 had a MAJOR power advantage over the field. He is pushing the bike hard, but he got to evolve when he had an advantage.

I gotta say - the director who sent a camera man into Rossi's garage 2 seconds after the race - is either heartless, brainless or just plain bloodthirsty. What kind of interview or revelation did he hope to come away with two seconds after such a .... day?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 17 2009, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im not saying the interview Keshav posted was false. That interview was after what matt and suppo were talking about. as i said im only saying what suppo and matt said, nothing to do with this interview of which you talk . It had to be after because what matt and suppo were on about was stoner riding past his team and into the garage, so unless he now does onboard radio interviews he had time to settle down and compose himself for this interview. As i said immediately after the race he refused to talk to anybody. mabe this interview of which i speak will be posted up on the bbc iplayer sometime soon. just checked and its not yet.
He might also have been pissed off he didn't change bikes earlier; whether this was his own choice or at least partly up to the team I am not sure. If up to the team what they did was probably smart if only rossi is viewed as the serious competition, something I am not so sure of after this race.
(EDIT According to suppo on the dorna site it was mainly a rider decision, so I guess he must have been pissed off at himself; he certainly has not blamed anyone, his wrist or anything else post-race as far as I am aware.)

after the changeof bike.... colin overtaking toseland and beating him by over 10 seconds is demoralising.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ May 18 2009, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I also think people overlook that in 2007 Stoner didn't have to ride the bike as hard. The GP07 had a MAJOR power advantage over the field. He is pushing the bike hard, but he got to evolve when he had an advantage.
He definitely had a straight line advantage (as I believe did the aprilia cube ), and I think part of the reason the GP09 doesn't have such an advantage now is that they have altered the engine and possibly the aerodynamics to get it through the corners better. If you could get the thing through the corners quickly enough which stoner could on many tracks but capirossi mostly couldn't the straightline characteristics of the 2007 ducati did mean not much finesse or tactical sense was required to engineer a pass though, as I think babelfish argued (correctly) at the time.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 17 2009, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well theres plenty of rossi fans here giving props to other riders . the rest seem very quite !

Rog, I wake up at 5 am to watch races, it is more like half sleep. So I don't feel that much of a chat at the time, when it's done I go back to sleep again. It's a Sunday late wakeup then, so by the time I'm up it is family time mate.

Anyway, here it goes… Dam it, I am sad! I feel for the King!

Good on Melandri, I used to like his one handed spinning off the rear for the win (Phillip Island 06). I still think Ducati focuses only on one rider and the rest pickup scraps. His Kawa results seem to match.

So to pickup scraps, well Yamaha did win with Lorenzo. Good on him too.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 17 2009, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>valencia 06 i think he was dead last.

No brother, in Ricardo Tormo 06 Rossi was 13th, and believe or not, we have Ellison in 14th and McCoy in 15th (whom by the way, also ran one race before in Estoril 06 for 15th place too). The rest were 5 DNFs.

Rossi's MotoGP worst result (Other than DNF) had been Jerez 06 in 14th place, but with Hofmann and Ellison behind him too.

Dam it, I am sad! I feel for the King! His worst result ever! Well it's over now!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ May 17 2009, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hayden almost being taken out by Kalio, wow.

Those second Ducs have a bit of a curse Jumkie, there's been several 'other rider hits'em' through the years (even with each other Duc). Poor Hayden.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ May 17 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi/Burgess's ... ran out of rabbits
yep. It doesn't look like they could find a set-up they were happy with this week-end; rossi said as much post-race. I think the restriction of the tyre choices is limiting even rossi's legendary set-up ability, and probably stoner's to some extent also; however, as stoner has already said it is the same for everyone, and good luck to jorge and dani.

well its good to see lorenzo win
well maybe next time we can see rossi vs lorenzo
and good to watch melandri in 2nd place
i like to watch doviozo on 3rd place than pedrobot
well the championship will be interesting

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wander @ May 17 2009, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Arrghhh, I didn't realize Kallio was so high when he crashed. In his website he said he was significantly faster than Hayden at that point and was going to overtake, but hit a wet patch during braking on the inside line and lost it. Unlucky for Hayden too.

Damn Kallio doesn't deserve to be in motogp, he should be saked asap

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ May 17 2009, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Then he wonders why people routinely .... on him. Perhaps you may consider changing your fav rider from Taki to Pinky.

I don't wonder, its more than obvious that too many people around here are concerned with who spoke rather than what was said

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ May 17 2009, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well for Rossi fans it must suck but for everyone else the mixup was good to see. Supposedly that is what everyone wants, a mixed up tight championship.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ May 17 2009, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Experience has shown that to be unlikely.

well, it seems to me you don't have much.

please, would people stop putting ALL rossi fans into just one category? we're not all blind worshipers. a good number of us are first and foremost, racing fans.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ May 18 2009, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well, it seems to me you don't have much.

please, would people stop putting ALL rossi fans into just one category? we're not all blind worshipers. a good number of us are first and foremost, racing fans.
+1

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ May 18 2009, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well, it seems to me you don't have much.

please, would people stop putting ALL rossi fans into just one category? we're not all blind worshipers. a good number of us are first and foremost, racing fans.

Very well said!

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Well done Marco! it was nice to see him back at the top! lets hope this continues

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ May 18 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well done Marco! it was nice to see him back at the top! lets hope this continues

yeah, +1! I was cheering for him the whole time. he deserves some good results, kudos to his team too!

and man oh man, dani continues to impress me. that was a freaking perfect overtaking stuff we got there! i was cheering not because i like dani but i wanted to see if he can take on dovi with just a few bends to go.

let's hope mugello would be more filled with cracking stuff sans rossi crashing and all the pit lane trips

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ May 18 2009, 07:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well done Marco! it was nice to see him back at the top! lets hope this continues

Yeah, great result for Marco, how many people had written him off before the season even began?

I was hoping that Randy would do a little better, but at least he stayed on & got some points, so not too disappointed.

Thought Pedrosa's last lap pass on Dovi was great, seems like he's got some balls after all.
I remember a lot of talk about how Pedrosa would suffer a lot with the single tyre rule, he used to have a special tyre made for him as his small size meant it took longer for a standard tyre to heat up. But, this doesn't seem to have happened.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ May 18 2009, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I gotta say - the director who sent a camera man into Rossi's garage 2 seconds after the race - is either heartless, brainless or just plain bloodthirsty. What kind of interview or revelation did he hope to come away with two seconds after such a .... day?

They aren't looking for an insightful interview, they're there in case a rider has an argument, sheds tears or lashes out out. It's their duty to have a camera there to witness something like that, if they missed it we'd all be complaining.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ May 17 2009, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not being argumentitive in any way. Where did you see this stuff about suppo and matt? Were you watching a feed from Europe?
read post #149 mate

well EVERYONE wanted to see Rossis reaction and what he wanted to say for crashing, ride thru, etc etc.

and no the above is not a criticism, just saying was uncharacteristic of rossi to have so many mistakes, and yes he is human.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ May 18 2009, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and yes he is human.

thank you we've been trying to tell them that the whole time.

QUOTE (Wander @ May 17 2009, 08:26 PM)
Arrghhh, I didn't realize Kallio was so high when he crashed. In his website he said he was significantly faster than Hayden at that point and was going to overtake, but hit a wet patch during braking on the inside line and lost it. Unlucky for Hayden too.

Damn Kallio doesn't deserve to be in motogp, he should be saked asap




Depends actually which interview you read as to what happened to Hayden/Kallio.

The pramac press release says kallio tried to go on the inside but switched to the outside and fell. This is obviously wrong as then he probably wouldn't have hit hayden. So I trust the report that Wander has translated. Though I would add a bit that Wander left out. Kallio was so much quicker (mentioned already) that he initially started to go round the outside of Hayden but Hayden protected the racing line (reads "all of a sudden Hayden changed his line" on Pramac interview) and so Kallio switched to the inside where there was a damp patch and so fell.

What I will also mention is 2 laps before Kallio crashed he set the fastest lap of the race at that time and the lap before the crash he was over 3 seconds quicker than Hayden.

Really annoying the incident wasn't on camera.

Exciting race, but a shame it takes rain to make motogp exciting.