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Of course Casey is pissed neither of his bikes were right. But he is 40 points up on last year already so that is why Livio didn't seem to serious about the complaint. There is no way to get a perfect setup in that kind of weather.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ May 17 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Of course Casey is pissed neither of his bikes were right. But he is 40 points up on last year already so that is why Livio didn't seem to serious about the complaint. There is no way to get a perfect setup in that kind of weather.
When a rider complains and is frustrated it shows his passion and want to win. If you don't win and your not pissed something is wrong. I find it funny how people want to call Casey a moaner because if he didn't complain he wouldn't get any progress. I am sure vale and others complain but hey no one wants to talk about that cause people are just looking for .... to say about Casey.
When a rider complains and is frustrated it shows his passion and want to win. If you don't win and your not pissed something is wrong. I find it funny how people want to call Casey a moaner because if he didn't complain he wouldn't get any progress. I am sure vale and others complain but hey no one wants to talk about that cause people are just looking for .... to say about Casey.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#27aus @ May 17 2009, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
ffs have you heard of the term 'spoiler'?
ffs have you heard of the term 'spoiler'?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ May 17 2009, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>When a rider complains and is frustrated it shows his passion and want to win. If you don't win and your not pissed something is wrong. I find it funny how people want to call Casey a moaner because if he didn't complain he wouldn't get any progress. I am sure vale and others complain but hey no one wants to talk about that cause people are just looking for .... to say about Casey.
Stoner complaining and whinging..!!? Never!!
Stoner complaining and whinging..!!? Never!!
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@ May 17 2009, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner complaining and whinging..!!? Never!!
STONER FIFTH IN SPLIT RACE AT LE MANS, HAYDEN BATTLES TO TWELFTH
Not satisfied with interrupting the first two races of the season, the heavens once again opened over the Grand Prix de France GP to create an exciting flag to flag race that started out wet before drying out. Casey Stoner emerged from the drama with a fifth place that was certainly creditable but not entirely satisfactory to the Australian, who would surely have fought for the podium if it weren’t for a technical problem in the dry part of the race.
Despite making an excellent start Stoner was not totally comfortable with his wet set-up and struggled during the early stages, dropping from second place to seventh in just three laps. After changing to a bike fitted with slick tyres he then encountered a problem with his steering damper, which he managed to fix himself but lost valuable time as a result. Once he got back into his rhythm he was able to pass compatriot Chris Vermeulen for fifth place and pick up eleven crucial points that leave him level in the championship with Valentino Rossi on 65 points – one behind today’s deserved winner Jorge Lorenzo. With Daniel Pedrosa lurking on 57, the championship is wide open after four rounds.
It has also been a positive weekend overall for Nicky Hayden, who wasn’t blessed with the ideal conditions to begin working with a new Chief Mechanic but still made progress throughout the weekend and put in an impressive race performance. Lapping in fourth place before changing machines he was battling for eighth in the second, dry half of the race when Mika Kallio crashed, the Finn’s Ducati making contact with Hayden’s and causing it some light damage, as well as forcing the American off track. A twelfth place finish was scant reward for an otherwise encouraging weekend.
NICKY HAYDEN – (Ducati MotoGP Team) 12th
“The conditions were tricky and sometimes you have races that aren’t exactly what you’ve planned. It’s actually good fun on the grid making late decisions on set-up and tyres and things, with the track being wet but the sun shining. I got a decent start and even though I’ve had very little time on this bike in the rain my feeling was pretty good and I was able to move up a few spots. We came in and changed to slick tyre but with the track temperatures being so low it was hard to get any heat into the tyres, especially on the left side now that we don’t have dual compound rubber anymore. I was actually as high as eight at one point but I got unlucky again when Kallio crashed and his bike slid into me. I was lucky to save it because the impact was hard – you can see the rubber on the side of my bike – and I ran off track. It cost me time and positions and also damaged the front wheel sensor. We have two so the bike was working as well but probably it didn’t help things. Overall it’s not a great result but it has been a weekend where me and Juan have been able to work a lot together for the first time, we’ve tried to build an understanding and hopefully we can go forward from here.”
CASEY STONER (Ducati MotoGP Team) 5th
"I’m pretty disappointed because I don’t think we realised our potential at all today – the wet bike we started with had a big problem and I couldn’t find any traction from the warm-up lap. I never felt comfortable and I was losing a lot of time but it still wasn’t dry enough to come in for slick tyres. Then when I switched over my other bike had a problem with the steering damper and after four laps I had to take my hand off the gas coming down the straight to fix it. After that I felt much better, the bike was more comfortable and I was able to ride to my potential. I think if it wasn’t for that we would have been able to battle for the podium today but unfortunately these things happen sometimes and we just have to hope things work out better next time. I now really look forward to Mugello, one of my favourite. I‘ve got some good results there and I feel we have a bit better package this year compared to the last one so hopefully we should be able to fight more at the front".
LIVIO SUPPO – Ducati MotoGP Team MotoGP Project Director
“Unfortunately we didn’t have any time to set the bikes up for the wet conditions today so it was a bit of a gamble and Casey who we know is unbelievably fast in the rain, was unable to meet his potential. Things were better in the dry and only one rider set better lap times than Casey. It has been a real shame but we have to think positive because last year when we left Le Mans we were forty one points behind in the championship and now the gap is just one. It was a difficult race for Nicky after the contact with Mika Kallio but he rode well and is making constant improvements, so we’re looking ahead to the next race with plenty of optimism.”
@ May 17 2009, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner complaining and whinging..!!? Never!!
STONER FIFTH IN SPLIT RACE AT LE MANS, HAYDEN BATTLES TO TWELFTH
Not satisfied with interrupting the first two races of the season, the heavens once again opened over the Grand Prix de France GP to create an exciting flag to flag race that started out wet before drying out. Casey Stoner emerged from the drama with a fifth place that was certainly creditable but not entirely satisfactory to the Australian, who would surely have fought for the podium if it weren’t for a technical problem in the dry part of the race.
Despite making an excellent start Stoner was not totally comfortable with his wet set-up and struggled during the early stages, dropping from second place to seventh in just three laps. After changing to a bike fitted with slick tyres he then encountered a problem with his steering damper, which he managed to fix himself but lost valuable time as a result. Once he got back into his rhythm he was able to pass compatriot Chris Vermeulen for fifth place and pick up eleven crucial points that leave him level in the championship with Valentino Rossi on 65 points – one behind today’s deserved winner Jorge Lorenzo. With Daniel Pedrosa lurking on 57, the championship is wide open after four rounds.
It has also been a positive weekend overall for Nicky Hayden, who wasn’t blessed with the ideal conditions to begin working with a new Chief Mechanic but still made progress throughout the weekend and put in an impressive race performance. Lapping in fourth place before changing machines he was battling for eighth in the second, dry half of the race when Mika Kallio crashed, the Finn’s Ducati making contact with Hayden’s and causing it some light damage, as well as forcing the American off track. A twelfth place finish was scant reward for an otherwise encouraging weekend.
NICKY HAYDEN – (Ducati MotoGP Team) 12th
“The conditions were tricky and sometimes you have races that aren’t exactly what you’ve planned. It’s actually good fun on the grid making late decisions on set-up and tyres and things, with the track being wet but the sun shining. I got a decent start and even though I’ve had very little time on this bike in the rain my feeling was pretty good and I was able to move up a few spots. We came in and changed to slick tyre but with the track temperatures being so low it was hard to get any heat into the tyres, especially on the left side now that we don’t have dual compound rubber anymore. I was actually as high as eight at one point but I got unlucky again when Kallio crashed and his bike slid into me. I was lucky to save it because the impact was hard – you can see the rubber on the side of my bike – and I ran off track. It cost me time and positions and also damaged the front wheel sensor. We have two so the bike was working as well but probably it didn’t help things. Overall it’s not a great result but it has been a weekend where me and Juan have been able to work a lot together for the first time, we’ve tried to build an understanding and hopefully we can go forward from here.”
CASEY STONER (Ducati MotoGP Team) 5th
"I’m pretty disappointed because I don’t think we realised our potential at all today – the wet bike we started with had a big problem and I couldn’t find any traction from the warm-up lap. I never felt comfortable and I was losing a lot of time but it still wasn’t dry enough to come in for slick tyres. Then when I switched over my other bike had a problem with the steering damper and after four laps I had to take my hand off the gas coming down the straight to fix it. After that I felt much better, the bike was more comfortable and I was able to ride to my potential. I think if it wasn’t for that we would have been able to battle for the podium today but unfortunately these things happen sometimes and we just have to hope things work out better next time. I now really look forward to Mugello, one of my favourite. I‘ve got some good results there and I feel we have a bit better package this year compared to the last one so hopefully we should be able to fight more at the front".
LIVIO SUPPO – Ducati MotoGP Team MotoGP Project Director
“Unfortunately we didn’t have any time to set the bikes up for the wet conditions today so it was a bit of a gamble and Casey who we know is unbelievably fast in the rain, was unable to meet his potential. Things were better in the dry and only one rider set better lap times than Casey. It has been a real shame but we have to think positive because last year when we left Le Mans we were forty one points behind in the championship and now the gap is just one. It was a difficult race for Nicky after the contact with Mika Kallio but he rode well and is making constant improvements, so we’re looking ahead to the next race with plenty of optimism.”
Arrghhh, I didn't realize Kallio was so high when he crashed. In his website he said he was significantly faster than Hayden at that point and was going to overtake, but hit a wet patch during braking on the inside line and lost it. Unlucky for Hayden too.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#22 @ May 17 2009, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Any video/articles on this Roger? All I found on Autosport was a comment from Luppo that Casey 'is still very young'
no mate. it was on the red button after the bbc2 coverage. Matt the bbc interviewer went up to suppo and said (paraphrasing) i hear casey rode past the pitts and gave all of you dirty looks, he has gone into the garage and doesn't want to talk to us which i suppose is understandable.
suppo, laughs and said well he doesnt want to talk to us either, he is not very happy at the moment, both laugh
no mate. it was on the red button after the bbc2 coverage. Matt the bbc interviewer went up to suppo and said (paraphrasing) i hear casey rode past the pitts and gave all of you dirty looks, he has gone into the garage and doesn't want to talk to us which i suppose is understandable.
suppo, laughs and said well he doesnt want to talk to us either, he is not very happy at the moment, both laugh
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It has also been a positive weekend overall for Nicky Hayden, who wasn’t blessed with the ideal conditions to begin working with a new Chief Mechanic but still made progress throughout the weekend and put in an impressive race performance. Lapping in fourth place before changing machines he was battling for eighth in the second, dry half of the race when Mika Kallio crashed, the Finn’s Ducati making contact with Hayden’s and causing it some light damage, as well as forcing the American off track. A twelfth place finish was scant reward for an otherwise encouraging weekend.
I was lucky to save it because the impact was hard – you can see the rubber on the side of my bike – and I ran off track.
CASEY STONER (Ducati MotoGP Team) 5th
"I’m pretty disappointed because I don’t think we realised our potential at all today – the wet bike we started with had a big problem and I couldn’t find any traction from the warm-up lap. I never felt comfortable and I was losing a lot of time but it still wasn’t dry enough to come in for slick tyres. Then when I switched over my other bike had a problem with the steering damper and after four laps I had to take my hand off the gas coming down the straight to fix it. After that I felt much better, the bike was more comfortable and I was able to ride to my potential. I think if it wasn’t for that we would have been able to battle for the podium today but unfortunately these things happen sometimes and we just have to hope things work out better next time. I now really look forward to Mugello, one of my favourite. I‘ve got some good results there and I feel we have a bit better package this year compared to the last one so hopefully we should be able to fight more at the front".
WTF? - how in hell did the directors fail to show Hayden being run off the track? I was watching every second. I was wondering how the hell he lost so many positions. Freaking commentators too busy gossiping about "the friction in the garage between Toesland and Edwards."
Re: Stoner . . . I don't hear any whining there. Pretty straight-ahead statement.
I was lucky to save it because the impact was hard – you can see the rubber on the side of my bike – and I ran off track.
CASEY STONER (Ducati MotoGP Team) 5th
"I’m pretty disappointed because I don’t think we realised our potential at all today – the wet bike we started with had a big problem and I couldn’t find any traction from the warm-up lap. I never felt comfortable and I was losing a lot of time but it still wasn’t dry enough to come in for slick tyres. Then when I switched over my other bike had a problem with the steering damper and after four laps I had to take my hand off the gas coming down the straight to fix it. After that I felt much better, the bike was more comfortable and I was able to ride to my potential. I think if it wasn’t for that we would have been able to battle for the podium today but unfortunately these things happen sometimes and we just have to hope things work out better next time. I now really look forward to Mugello, one of my favourite. I‘ve got some good results there and I feel we have a bit better package this year compared to the last one so hopefully we should be able to fight more at the front".
WTF? - how in hell did the directors fail to show Hayden being run off the track? I was watching every second. I was wondering how the hell he lost so many positions. Freaking commentators too busy gossiping about "the friction in the garage between Toesland and Edwards."
Re: Stoner . . . I don't hear any whining there. Pretty straight-ahead statement.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ May 17 2009, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>WTF? - how in hell did the directors fail to show Hayden being run off the track? I was watching every second. I was wondering how the hell he lost so many positions. Freaking commentators too busy gossiping about "the friction in the garage between Toesland and Edwards."
Re: Stoner . . . I don't hear any whining there. Pretty straight-ahead statement.
first ive heard about hayden being run off too.
as for stoner, im only saying what i head and saw in the interview with matt and suppo. The interview you posted above would be after, seeing they said he rode past the team giving them dirty looks and gesturing. Stoner does tend to blow off then settle down a while later.
Re: Stoner . . . I don't hear any whining there. Pretty straight-ahead statement.
first ive heard about hayden being run off too.
as for stoner, im only saying what i head and saw in the interview with matt and suppo. The interview you posted above would be after, seeing they said he rode past the team giving them dirty looks and gesturing. Stoner does tend to blow off then settle down a while later.
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Does Rossi hate switching bikes, or does Rossi hate switching bikes
I am so happy for Melandri.
As for Hayden being run off, I think there was a moment into the chicane with Takahashi. It cut away just as they were about to clash, & they never cut back so I assumed they didn't touch, is that the one?
I am so happy for Melandri.
As for Hayden being run off, I think there was a moment into the chicane with Takahashi. It cut away just as they were about to clash, & they never cut back so I assumed they didn't touch, is that the one?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ May 18 2009, 03:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>first ive heard about hayden being run off too.
as for stoner, im only saying what i head and saw in the interview with matt and suppo. The interview you posted above would be after, seeing they said he rode past the team giving them dirty looks and gesturing. Stoner does tend to blow off then settle down a while later.
Keshav quote is repeated in Paddock Talk
as for stoner, im only saying what i head and saw in the interview with matt and suppo. The interview you posted above would be after, seeing they said he rode past the team giving them dirty looks and gesturing. Stoner does tend to blow off then settle down a while later.
Keshav quote is repeated in Paddock Talk
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ May 17 2009, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Keshav quote is repeated in Paddock Talk
Im not saying the interview Keshav posted was false. That interview was after what matt and suppo were talking about. as i said im only saying what suppo and matt said, nothing to do with this interview of which you talk . It had to be after because what matt and suppo were on about was stoner riding past his team and into the garage, so unless he now does onboard radio interviews he had time to settle down and compose himself for this interview. As i said immediately after the race he refused to talk to anybody. mabe this interview of which i speak will be posted up on the bbc iplayer sometime soon. just checked and its not yet.
Im not saying the interview Keshav posted was false. That interview was after what matt and suppo were talking about. as i said im only saying what suppo and matt said, nothing to do with this interview of which you talk . It had to be after because what matt and suppo were on about was stoner riding past his team and into the garage, so unless he now does onboard radio interviews he had time to settle down and compose himself for this interview. As i said immediately after the race he refused to talk to anybody. mabe this interview of which i speak will be posted up on the bbc iplayer sometime soon. just checked and its not yet.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick.. Rossi.. 46 No1... @ May 17 2009, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner complaining and whinging..!!? Never!!
Rossi rode a great race!! congrats!!!
@ May 17 2009, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner complaining and whinging..!!? Never!!
Rossi rode a great race!! congrats!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ May 17 2009, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Does Rossi hate switching bikes, or does Rossi hate switching bikes
I am so happy for Melandri.
As for Hayden being run off, I think there was a moment into the chicane with Takahashi. It cut away just as they were about to clash, & they never cut back so I assumed they didn't touch, is that the one?
Yeah if they show the"TJ" punting another rider maybe people will see he doesn't belong there. He is there to appease Japan and that is all.
I am so happy for Melandri.
As for Hayden being run off, I think there was a moment into the chicane with Takahashi. It cut away just as they were about to clash, & they never cut back so I assumed they didn't touch, is that the one?
Yeah if they show the"TJ" punting another rider maybe people will see he doesn't belong there. He is there to appease Japan and that is all.
Just saw this on and read a bit in to it from motogp website
Looking ahead to his home race next time out in Italy, he added, “I know it will be tough at Mugello but I just want to enjoy today. I must say thanks to my team and to Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna CEO) who helped me to come back in after Kawasaki pulled out. It would be a dream to get a good result in Mugello, so I hope to get into the top ten there.”
marco interveiw i think dorna dont want to see their money wasted thats why marco-hyate-kawasaki are starting to do well.
I thinking there is a conspericy here..........
Looking ahead to his home race next time out in Italy, he added, “I know it will be tough at Mugello but I just want to enjoy today. I must say thanks to my team and to Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna CEO) who helped me to come back in after Kawasaki pulled out. It would be a dream to get a good result in Mugello, so I hope to get into the top ten there.”
marco interveiw i think dorna dont want to see their money wasted thats why marco-hyate-kawasaki are starting to do well.
I thinking there is a conspericy here..........
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ninja10 @ May 17 2009, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just saw this on and read a bit in to it from motogp website
Looking ahead to his home race next time out in Italy, he added, “I know it will be tough at Mugello but I just want to enjoy today. I must say thanks to my team and to Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna CEO) who helped me to come back in after Kawasaki pulled out. It would be a dream to get a good result in Mugello, so I hope to get into the top ten there.”
marco interveiw i think dorna dont want to see their money wasted thats why marco-hyate-kawasaki are starting to do well.
I thinking there is a conspericy here..........
you may be right!!! lol
Looking ahead to his home race next time out in Italy, he added, “I know it will be tough at Mugello but I just want to enjoy today. I must say thanks to my team and to Carmelo Ezpeleta (Dorna CEO) who helped me to come back in after Kawasaki pulled out. It would be a dream to get a good result in Mugello, so I hope to get into the top ten there.”
marco interveiw i think dorna dont want to see their money wasted thats why marco-hyate-kawasaki are starting to do well.
I thinking there is a conspericy here..........
you may be right!!! lol
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No, Lady Luck was on Marco's side today, it all worked out for him he rode good plus everyone was shuffling around so it helped. I too am happy to see him back on the podium. Jorge was brilliant for a minute there i thought he was going to lose it on the wet tyres but he ended up on top. Being that Nicky doesnt stand a chance to win it this year im really hoping Lorenzo can be the 2009 world champ. Hopefully theyre will be some good weather in Mugello
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