Joined Apr 2011
636 Posts | 26+
Gold Coast
Honestly WTF is Stoner on about???? Rossi was no where near him!!
This is hilarious.......hes just pissed cause someone else can ride the Duck now!
Stoner certainly has some 'Mental' Issues at present, not too mention 2 Honda's ahead of him! How does this happen, hes a riding god isn't he? These ....... comments and stupid waving/patting his arse really are comical! Firstly he had no way of knowing how close Rossi was as from that distance he certainly couldn't have heard him......
Elias was the one getting a great tow. But you didn't see Rossi carrying on.
So hate brigade how do we explain the Ducks speed now.......?
its powered by a new fuel developed by nasa, harvested from the comments coming out of stoners mouth. luckily for ducati, they have an endless supply hehehehahaha... ahem...
Child like as in having fun, not innocent, for him it's a fun game that the other riders shouldn't entertain. If you ask, I'll tell you what I believe no need to make .... up Jums. .... talking isn't Stoner's game, he needs to focus on going fast, it's his main strength. Pedro and Jorge, in that order are the only people Casey needs to be worried about beating, he's already faster than everybody else. Why give Rossi the satisfaction of being relevant when he isn't ? Payback huh, sounds like some people are really hurting inside, it's best to just let things go and let people dig their own graves, no one stays on top forever. Hating them only makes you nasty and angry but it doesn't make them come down any faster. If he tangles with Rossi and has an off, who does it hurt more?
Joined Jun 2006
2K Posts | 20+
south wales UK
wow i left today it was 3 pages long, i signed on seen rhere was almost 9 so knew something would be up....
its just racing spat who cares what anyone done or said time to move on...nothing to see here
jumkie you should know better
i like the way you stir your spoon then step back and watch the .... explode
its just racing spat who cares what anyone done or said time to move on...nothing to see here
jumkie you should know better
Rossi about the incident:
"About today, I don’t think Casey likes me a lot. This is quite clear. First it was because I slowed down to catch my breath because I was quite tired and I wanted to make a last lap pushing." "Stoner passed and I restarted to push. He was in front of me but I wasn't close but this happens in every practice and every race, so if he doesn’t want anybody to follow him then he has to race alone."
source: http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/s...1/April/apr2911-rossi-and-stoner-clash-again/
is Rossi trying to playing mind games with Stoner?
"About today, I don’t think Casey likes me a lot. This is quite clear. First it was because I slowed down to catch my breath because I was quite tired and I wanted to make a last lap pushing." "Stoner passed and I restarted to push. He was in front of me but I wasn't close but this happens in every practice and every race, so if he doesn’t want anybody to follow him then he has to race alone."
source: http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/s...1/April/apr2911-rossi-and-stoner-clash-again/
is Rossi trying to playing mind games with Stoner?
Stoner needs to not go there, not because he should respect rossi, or because rossi is better at such things, although it seems likely he is, but because he can't possibly win in the court of public opinion, kangaroo though that court is, as reaction to the jerez incident demonstrated. If he starts concentrating on the world being against him (not that it isn't) it will derail his season.
By the way, speaking of jerez and those even handed observers who saw rossi's ability to keep his bike going as yet further evidence of his superiority, the honda has an automatic kill-switch if the bike lands on his side, and in any case stoner was actually sliding along the track several feet away from his bike; I guess the inability to interact with his bike in such a circumstance is further evidence of mental weakness.
CASEY:
At one stage, the 2007 world champion was seen gesturing Rossi towards him and the Repsol Honda rider explained: "It was like calling Valentino who was always following me. To find the best lap he was always behind me."
"It's like a dog always following you everywhere so it was like c'mon (whistles), good boy. If he is struggling to do a lap time this is it. We had our problems during the session and we were focussing on this but I also saw he held up Toni Elias a lot to find his lap time so I don't think it is so correct."
VALENTINO:
"I don't know what Stoner wants, and if he thinks nobody should ever follow him, then he would be better off racing alone. I've read everything he has said about me lately, and he is making some assumptions that I really can't understand. He's talking about my shoulder injury as if he knows exactly what's going on, he's commenting on my work with Ducati, and saying I am dangerous out on track. I understand what happened in Jerez; I was at fault and I also apologized to him, but I think he's still upset about the defeat at Laguna Seca two years ago. He has been saying all sorts of things about me since then. There are winners and losers in this sport, and on that occasion I was the winner. If he thinks he is the fastest guy out there, he has to prove it. I guess two good tests and a race win were enough for him to start talking, but I don't understand it."
Rossi said he had seen Stoner's gesture and he added: “I saw it yes but I expected this. When we are together he always exaggerates everything too much. If I have to make like this in all my career for people that follow me then I break my seat."
At one stage, the 2007 world champion was seen gesturing Rossi towards him and the Repsol Honda rider explained: "It was like calling Valentino who was always following me. To find the best lap he was always behind me."
"It's like a dog always following you everywhere so it was like c'mon (whistles), good boy. If he is struggling to do a lap time this is it. We had our problems during the session and we were focussing on this but I also saw he held up Toni Elias a lot to find his lap time so I don't think it is so correct."
VALENTINO:
"I don't know what Stoner wants, and if he thinks nobody should ever follow him, then he would be better off racing alone. I've read everything he has said about me lately, and he is making some assumptions that I really can't understand. He's talking about my shoulder injury as if he knows exactly what's going on, he's commenting on my work with Ducati, and saying I am dangerous out on track. I understand what happened in Jerez; I was at fault and I also apologized to him, but I think he's still upset about the defeat at Laguna Seca two years ago. He has been saying all sorts of things about me since then. There are winners and losers in this sport, and on that occasion I was the winner. If he thinks he is the fastest guy out there, he has to prove it. I guess two good tests and a race win were enough for him to start talking, but I don't understand it."
Rossi said he had seen Stoner's gesture and he added: “I saw it yes but I expected this. When we are together he always exaggerates everything too much. If I have to make like this in all my career for people that follow me then I break my seat."
He probably thought rossi was going to make a passing move on him. He was about as close as he was at jerez.
It's called .... stirring you clowns, and no doubt Stoner is having a quite laugh in the pits at the .... storm everyone has made of this. Because Stoner has the balls to make fun of Rossi where others haven't had the intesinal fortitude before, he is being called a whinger again. HA HA. It has nothing to do with Rossi following his lines, it has everything to do with Rossi struggling on the Ducati. Rossi is a preened poodle & Casey is treating him with contempt. It's great. Who will win this game, who cares, it's entertaining. Stoner now has an easier bike to ride so he can have a bit more fun with Rossi and Rossi can't really afford to get sidetracked while trying to sort the Ducati out.
Honestly WTF is Stoner on about???? Rossi was no where near him!!
This is hilarious.......hes just pissed cause someone else can ride the Duck now!
Stoner certainly has some 'Mental' Issues at present, not too mention 2 Honda's ahead of him! How does this happen, hes a riding god isn't he? These ....... comments and stupid waving/patting his arse really are comical! Firstly he had no way of knowing how close Rossi was as from that distance he certainly couldn't have heard him......
Elias was the one getting a great tow. But you didn't see Rossi carrying on.
So hate brigade how do we explain the Ducks speed now.......?
Hard to know about the ducati's speed as there were no dry practice sessions last year, and rossi was close in early practice when times were relatively slow in the last 2 races as well. I would agree that he looks better here though, particularly since estoril has not been good for ducati, including stoner, in recent years, not even in 2007.
Stoner is obviously doing so few laps because he knows he won't be able to restrain himself from going too fast and giving the game away though
Joined Apr 2011
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Pangea
It's called .... stirring you clowns, and no doubt Stoner is having a quite laugh in the pits at the .... storm everyone has made of this. Because Stoner has the balls to make fun of Rossi where others haven't had the intesinal fortitude before, he is being called a whinger again. HA HA. It has nothing to do with Rossi following his lines, it has everything to do with Rossi struggling on the Ducati. Rossi is a preened poodle & Casey is treating him with contempt. It's great. Who will win this game, who cares, it's entertaining. Stoner now has an easier bike to ride so he can have a bit more fun with Rossi and Rossi can't really afford to get sidetracked while trying to sort the Ducati out.
+1 Exactly.
This is brilliant and I cant understand why some of you guys think Stoner or Rossi should be carrying on like they love each other after all the history between them.
NO ONE has stood up to Valentino before - ever. Stoner must be getting under his skin and really pushing Valentinos buttons with these comments. It could well backfire on Casey as he has demonstrated before that he can let his emotions get the better of him and carry on like a bit of a tool at times but I absolutely admire him for standing up to MotoGP's bully and letting everyone know exactly what he thinks of Vales .........
This could be the best rivalry we have ever seen in bike racing and adds an extra dimension to the soap opera that is MotoGP today......bring it on I say and let the games continue like this all year because it sure is entertaining
They all have an auto kill that isn't so auto by rule, Stoner admitted he let it kill because he didn't want to risk an engine. Not a bad strategy so early in the season, Rossi got lucky but again(I'm just saying this to stir the pot)they battle and who loses, just hope the guy doesn't fall apart like after laguna
Joined Feb 2007
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Rovrum S,Yorks Eng
30 April 2011
uk/Gmt ....just under 90mins until 125 FP3
125ccFP3 09:15 - 09:55
MotoGPFP3 10:10 - 10:55
Moto2FP3 11:10 - 11:55
125ccQP 13:00 - 13:40
MotoGPQP 13:55 - 14:55
Moto2QP 15:10 - 15:55
weather http://news.bbc.co.u...her/forecast/48
still a chance of the odd shower sat/sun
Hayden to scrape into the top ten he needs to earn his $ one day
Edit:
Sun
dont forget the usual Estoril schedule runs sunday the 125 race is after the main motogp race
Moto2RAC 11:15
MotoGPRAC 13:00
125ccRAC 14:30
& if anyone wants to continue watching racing the Italian SBK Championship is on live all Sun afternoon from Monza on motorstv across europe
uk/sky ch413 from 1pm
PVR+ At the ready ppl
uk/Gmt ....just under 90mins until 125 FP3
125ccFP3 09:15 - 09:55
MotoGPFP3 10:10 - 10:55
Moto2FP3 11:10 - 11:55
125ccQP 13:00 - 13:40
MotoGPQP 13:55 - 14:55
Moto2QP 15:10 - 15:55
weather http://news.bbc.co.u...her/forecast/48
still a chance of the odd shower sat/sun
Hayden to scrape into the top ten he needs to earn his $ one day
Edit:
Sun
dont forget the usual Estoril schedule runs sunday the 125 race is after the main motogp race
Moto2RAC 11:15
MotoGPRAC 13:00
125ccRAC 14:30
& if anyone wants to continue watching racing the Italian SBK Championship is on live all Sun afternoon from Monza on motorstv across europe
uk/sky ch413 from 1pm
PVR+ At the ready ppl
Why do you Rossi fans think that your opinion is the only one. I do not think he was delusional at all. I also do not think he was referring to just the one lap that was caught by the camera's. Can you send me the link to the hour of footage that only follows Rossi and the one that only follows Stoner for the whole session. I would love to watch it. If you don't have a link can our please explain to me how you know exactly what happen between both riders for the whole session because I watched the whole session and only saw a few laps at best of both riders.
It's called .... stirring you clowns, and no doubt Stoner is having a quite laugh in the pits at the .... storm everyone has made of this. Because Stoner has the balls to make fun of Rossi where others haven't had the intesinal fortitude before, he is being called a whinger again. HA HA. It has nothing to do with Rossi following his lines, it has everything to do with Rossi struggling on the Ducati. Rossi is a preened poodle & Casey is treating him with contempt. It's great. Who will win this game, who cares, it's entertaining. Stoner now has an easier bike to ride so he can have a bit more fun with Rossi and Rossi can't really afford to get sidetracked while trying to sort the Ducati out.
Well said Coupe. Stoner is stirring the .... out of Rossi and Rossi is biting like a great big Barra! I have the score for this season at 2 nil to Stoner in the .... stirring race. How embarrassing for Rossi that he gets caught following Stoners lines. What a ........ excuse "Oh I was tired from the 3 laps I had run and needed a breather" hahaha now that is funny as in laughing at ypou funny rather than hahaha laughing with you funny.
Joined Mar 2005
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Woody Creek
With regards to how close Rossi was to Stoner, that no one seems to have touched on yet, is that Stoner said Rossi was ahead of him, lifted, allowed Stoner to pass, and then got back on it. Rossi said he was catching his breath, Stoner disagreed. It's having a sook, but I think it's interesting. If you look back at the history of Rossi's rivals (Max and Sete, for example), neither were vocal about Rossi. Everyone knew they didn't get on with him, but they let him play the media games while they focused on their riding. Stoner is playing a different game. Fair play to him, I say. And people getting upset with this tactic while drooling over Valentino is a bit pot/kettle, wouldn't you say? Or was it a mature thing to say when Rossi stated Gibernau would never win a race again in Qatar 2004 after Gibs' crew protested Rossi's crew was dusting off his pit box? It's all a game to play with the media, and Stoner's not the first, and won't be the last to play it.
What I find interesting about this place is that no one, bar perhaps one solitary post, has mentioned Lorenzo complaining about Simoncelli's riding. To those criticizing Stoner, where's the same venom toward Lorenzo? Not much different in their statements towards their rivals, yet Lorenzo gets nothing more than a post in eight pages of Stoner/Rossi debate. That speaks volumes more than any use of the word "Bopper".
It should be a good one. Just about a half hour before first FP1.
What I find interesting about this place is that no one, bar perhaps one solitary post, has mentioned Lorenzo complaining about Simoncelli's riding. To those criticizing Stoner, where's the same venom toward Lorenzo? Not much different in their statements towards their rivals, yet Lorenzo gets nothing more than a post in eight pages of Stoner/Rossi debate. That speaks volumes more than any use of the word "Bopper".
P.S. BsB Oulton Park on Monday will top off a great weekend.
It should be a good one. Just about a half hour before first FP1.
Krop posted a comment on his sight at the bottom of the article on this off track battle that Stoner was very calm at the press conference and Rossi was not. Considering he was there it is probably pretty accurate and a good sign that Stoner is playing a calculated mind game and Rossi is purely reacting emotionally.
I understood your comment and the way you wanted to twist and hence my comment. Two questions - can you be honest and tell me you didn't mean Rossi was getting a tow from Stoner from that comment? If it was a generic comment then why keep someone's name in it? Why can't you keep it really 'generic'?
Really... care to provide a quote from Rossi on this? Or did you mind read this also
I call someone delusional when he thinks he saw something that didn't really happen. If you don't think he was delusional then tell me why he complained about Rossi towing him. You dont need a video following exclusively Rossi and Stoner. If you apply a little logic (which might be hard for you) you can figure this out
- One goes for a tow when he is slow and want to improve his time (ex: Toni Elias)
- Rossi had done multiple laps without tow, many in the low 1.38s.
- When you get a tow from someone, it is generally from a faster rider. Casey was generally slower than Rossi in FP2. Now what next - Rossi got a tow from Elias also
- If Rossi decided to get a tow, he could gone for JL, Pedro or Sic.
Oh.. now it's not a tow. Its following a line - whaaat????
So Rossi wanted to copy Casey's line? Where did you read this? (Or is it also mind reading
I think you should add more points and just give the championship also to Casey. I am sure you already must have done this.
You know what your problem is - you try to imitate Jumkie but minus the wit and intelligence. And often FAIL...
I understood your comment and the way you wanted to twist and hence my comment. Two questions - can you be honest and tell me you didn't mean Rossi was getting a tow from Stoner from that comment? If it was a generic comment then why keep someone's name in it? Why can't you keep it really 'generic'?
I do not think Rossi was getting a tow from Stoner so why would I comment that he was. Just for you again and I will put it in capitals for you I DO NOT THINK ROSSI WAS GETTING A TOW OF STONER. I think Stoner is just screwing with Rossi and it is working.
Really... care to provide a quote from Rossi on this? Or did you mind read this also(ah.. sorry you must have read from the body language..silly me)..
Do your self a favour and watch the pre-event press conference then you can hear it with your own ears. I told you that he said it so go listen to it. When you do come back and apologise.
I call someone delusional when he thinks he saw something that didn't really happen. If you don't think he was delusional then tell me why he complained about Rossi towing him. You dont need a video following exclusively Rossi and Stoner. If you apply a little logic (which might be hard for you) you can figure this out
- One goes for a tow when he is slow and want to improve his time (ex: Toni Elias)
- Rossi had done multiple laps without tow, many in the low 1.38s.
- When you get a tow from someone, it is generally from a faster rider. Casey was generally slower than Rossi in FP2. Now what next - Rossi got a tow from Elias also.
- If Rossi decided to get a tow, he could gone for JL, Pedro or Sic.
You don't get it. Stoner is screwing with Rossi. Rossi bit. Stoner wins.
Oh.. now it's not a tow. Its following a line - whaaat????
So Rossi wanted to copy Casey's line? Where did you read this? (Or is it also mind reading) For what? To make sure he runs slower? Tell me what would be Rossi's reason for following Casey given he was much faster than him through out the session.
It can be anything you want it to be. It doesn't have to be true because Stoner is trying to get under Rossi's skin and he is succeeding. Commentators are saying that Rossi has never reacted like this in his whole career.
I think you should add more points and just give the championship also to Casey. I am sure you already must have done this. Wow you are getting lame now.
You know what your problem is - you try to imitate Jumkie but minus the wit and intelligence. And often FAIL...I don't but thank you for the compliment. If I could be associated with someone like Jumkie who is not clouded by yellow mist and has an insight into the politics of the sport and fail to measure up then I am still happy. I would be more worried about being associated with the likes of Talpa which you are bordering on.
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