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Okay - so I went back to the official MotoGP video and watched it. As soon as Stoner gets his bike off of Rossi - all the marshals come like a bunch of schoolgirls surrounding Justin Bieber totally ignoring Stoner. None of the marshals made any attempt whatever to access Stoner's situation at all. It was a full 5 seconds before any of them took any notice of Stoner who was frantically waving his hands trying to get their attention, in hopes of getting a bump start. Clear as day. That home-made video is completely useless. The official Hi-Def video confirms your memory and mine.
Moreover it deflates Roger's comment about a maximum number of marshals being useful for bump-starting the bike
- given their purpose was not merely to restart the bike but also to get it unmired from the gravel trap - not an easy
thing to do with a bike that's beginning at a total standstill.
Logically - if only for safety's sake - since Stoner's bike was the first one upright - it should have been the first one pushed for a (potential) re-start in order that there should be one less bike blocking the run-off area.
No, that's just my DD sheepskin, that doesn't count.
Being a Cardinal has it's advantages, though... red undies not being the least of them.
This is the second time Casey has had his brake pads back off after some head shake.
Has he not learned to give them a pump after an event to make sure they will work when needed ?
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And that business about being lactose intorerant is just BS.
I know anorexia when I see it.
Pedrosa is lighter than air, work around it.
Has he not learned to give them a pump after an event to make sure they will work when needed ?
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And that business about being lactose intorerant is just BS.
I know anorexia when I see it.
Pedrosa is lighter than air, work around it.
Actually Kesh (and I know Michael will not agree with me here either) but the priority is and should be to clear the immediate danger from teh area, irrespective of who was at fault or why the bikes are in the location and dare I suggest it (the Boner I am ........... speaking of which, is an anti-Boner a flaccid?) in this case the marshalls did a reasonable job.
Essentially (and I have mentioned this somewhere else) it is not a marshalls job to assign fault, responsibility or culpability ............. their task is clear cut (but does need to be altered and clarified to avoid situations like Jerez 2011 and Jerez 2012 Moto3)
Where I have an issue is the subsequent actions that were performed by some (note not all) of the same marshalls.
But (and I have said this before ...... including in 2011) I will side with Rog and co in saying that IMO the marshall who did push Stoner did well over and above what I feel he should have done and that marshall does not deserve to be included, nor tarred with any criticisms (IMO)
I actually do agree with everything you have said in this post. The marshalls did their duty in terms of safety well, are under no obligation to re-start either rider and are going beyond the call of duty if they do so, and it is certainly not their role to judge who is more worthy of assistance. I think we all agree that they probably shouldn't help re-start anyone at all because of the potential danger to them.
So if anyone wants to argue stoner has no place criticising the marshalls in the jerez incident as well as the other it is hard to argue against them. However, I don't think it is hard to understand how stoner felt in the particular circumstance, and I don't think it unlikely that many would have felt the same. And to argue that he was treated equally by the marshalls, whatever their motives (more than likely good as you say), is to deny reality.
The real safety issue in the incident concerned the possibility of stoner riding over the top of rossi when rossi put the bike down which easily could have happened. I don't know whether stoner had any involvement in avoiding that occurrence or whether it was just luck, but he certainly let the bike go, involuntarily or not, etc etc, and actually lifted his bike from on top of rossi himself, obviously not necessarily altruistically.
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Hows our gay Texan cowboy going there Curvacious??
PS. I just googled "Gayest place on earth" ....... guess what comes up first!!
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Is the gay scene really that big a thing there Curvey?
Are you gay?
Like half of Texas?
Thats assuming you have near 50/50 male to female ratio there curve?
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Hows our gay Texan cowboy going there Curvacious??
PS. I just googled "Gayest place on earth" ....... guess what comes up first!!
http://www.facebook....1800941?sk=info
Is the gay scene really that big a thing there Curvey?
Are you gay?
Like half of Texas?
Thats assuming you have near 50/50 male to female ratio there curve?
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Lame. Stealing jokes and stuck on repeat. Typical Bestiality Barry .........
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Sit down cross legged, in a nice quiet room, light some incense, put on soothing music, close your eyes and
and pose this question to the one most qualified to answer. Your revelation will be more meaningful this way.
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incense, check.
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soothing music....wait a ....... minute, are you coming on to me?
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