A the moment both Dovi himself and J4rn0, a noted Italian member who is both a Doviphile and a Ducatista and someone who has shown himself to be in touch with matters Ducati on numerous occasions in the past seem to accept Lorenzo's version of events.
J4 is as much in touch with Ducati as moon landing deniers are with NASA.
This is the guy who for two years said Ducati were NOT doing anything radical to accommodate the Ducati to Rossi. Except the public record tells tge opposite story, from monumental resources, management and design changes, and replacing personnel at Corse for Rossi's dream team, to even jettisoning their signature design elements for a twin-spar chassis that they couldn't even build in-house. J4 consistently blamed Ducati for Rossi's inability to move the project forward. Keep in mind, at the time Rossi was the undisputed GOAT, so it shouldn't have need too much tweaking to get the machine back in championship contention, given that in the form the bike was handed to Rossi and Co. It was in fact a multiple race winner. Over two years Rossi won zero. But J4 is the guy you're going to endorse as 'insider's voice' and the stethoscope's ear for Ducati's pulse?
And as far as J4 being this great Doviphile, I can think of only one ever post/thread started by J4 in support of Dovi, and as I recall I called ........ on it because if anything, J4 is known for being a staunch Rossi's fan of the bopper variety.
I like J4, and i admire his tenacity as misplaced as it is, he has put up with lots of people telling him he's full of crap around here, particularly because he took Rossi's side in the infamous debacle of 2015, not exactly undeserved; but let's not start handing out Nobel prizes as the human polygraph expert on Lorenzo's ........ claims, especially not citing support because J4 is "in touch with Ducati".
What were you guys expecting Dovi to say after he had just come off a crash ending his title bid? ....... Lorenzo held me up? How would that gone over? Beside the fact Dovi doesn't have it in him to throw people under the bus, a characteristic we admire, he wouldn't say it publicly. What did you expect Lorenzo to say? .... guys, I ...... up, I should have eliminated myself from this controversial situation like good old Pedrosa. What did you guys expect Ducati to say, this .... ignored us, made us look like chumps in front of the GP world, we don't accept his stupid ....... insane claim that he was towing Dovi.
You know why we're not talking about Pedrosa? Because he didn't have to go around lying that he was towing Marc by doing what he could have done evidenced his increase in pace and tenacity with Zarco, and, take note, by his willingness to challenge Marc at Valencia 15. No, Pedrosa rode comfortably shot gun, then straight up won the race when it was a moot point. Now he doesn't have to answer to questions needing a PR machine.
I find it fascinating that the people who did NOT believe Lorenzo was telling the truth in regards to Malaysia's team orders and figured Lorenzo let Dovi by (despite Jorge saying the contrary) are the ones now citing Lorenzo as the model of honesty. He lied at Malaysia but now he's the Pope of truth?
Mike, you say there's no reason why Lorenzo would lie about the dynamic that unfolded at Valencia. There is absolutely reason, not the least being ruthlessly selfish ego for imposing his status back into a team that he has largely failed!
What I think happen in Lorenzo's mind was he perceived this title a foregone conclusion, like many here actually. So he rode like it's the new season. Similar to Rossi at Phillip Island this year. Consider this, when Rossi failed to score a win at Ducati, his teammate didn’t go scoring 6 wins and contending for the championship. If we compare Rossi and Lorenzo's first year stint at Ducati, Lorenzo comes out looking like an epic disaster. Imagine if Rossi's teammate had won as many as Dovi? I'd be the first to point it out with glee. Lorenzo is desperate, and his true colors shown these last two races. I really did think he was better than this, he's not. He is a .....
I really do hope this becomes a defining moment for Lorenzo, as it did for Pedrosa when he did similar at Estoril. Though Pedrosa I believe learned and eventually became a better person, though it took over a decade. Pedrosa rode at Valencia 17 in a manner that I had believed Lorenzo would for such an occasion. The way of the world is such that the ........ always win, so I don't expect Jorge to ever enjoy the karma for this selfish capricious behavior, but he definitely .... away respect by many individuals who aren't becoming the new Marquez's fan version of boppers.
If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
