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I've said as much from the beginning, you just didn't want to accept it because that would in your mind diminish your latest bandwagon hero. The works RCV is superior to the M1, period. I have used in the past the qualification of slight, but its not necessary. RCV>M1 Deal with it.
I've said as much from the beginning, you just didn't want to accept it because that would in your mind diminish your latest bandwagon hero. The works RCV is superior to the M1, period. I have used in the past the qualification of slight, but its not necessary. RCV>M1 Deal with it.
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Jumkie
Hey don't you dare talk to one of the Beach boys like that !
Hey don't you dare talk to one of the Beach boys like that !
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Internet is a biotch aint it. What you say one day is always there the next. Crayfishing when you talk to much and cant remember what you said is becoming your MO. So which is it, slightly better, or immensely superior. Pick one and stick to it. Not once have i said the Yamaha was a better bike, i called ........ on you saying the Honda was superior.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Internet is a biotch aint it. What you say one day is always there the next. Crayfishing when you talk to much and cant remember what you said is becoming your MO. So which is it, slightly better, or immensely superior. Pick one and stick to it. Not once have i said the Yamaha was a better bike, i called ........ on you saying the Honda was superior.
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The Honda IS superior. You disputing this is laughable, and frankly shows what a beach bum you have become. Mix in a dictionary once in a while. Saying something is "superior" does not necessitate the need to assign magnitude (and frankly, its would be almost impossible to do so accurately). I realize the nuance is confusing to you.
While peeps are arguing the correct spelling of color, you seem more in need of a basic English lesson.
Are you going to say you have me cornered? Hahaha. I have been saying the Honda is "superior" to the Yamaha. You call ......... Breathtaking. You haven't once yet ever been able to debate me Pov, because frankly you fail at basic logic combined with wrong assessments and poor information. But keep trying buddy. I'll keep applying the pressure.
The Honda IS superior. You disputing this is laughable, and frankly shows what a beach bum you have become. Mix in a dictionary once in a while. Saying something is "superior" does not necessitate the need to assign magnitude (and frankly, its would be almost impossible to do so accurately). I realize the nuance is confusing to you.
While peeps are arguing the correct spelling of color, you seem more in need of a basic English lesson.
Are you going to say you have me cornered? Hahaha. I have been saying the Honda is "superior" to the Yamaha. You call ......... Breathtaking. You haven't once yet ever been able to debate me Pov, because frankly you fail at basic logic combined with wrong assessments and poor information. But keep trying buddy. I'll keep applying the pressure.
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Depends what you're comparing to. The yam is competitive with Lorenzo riding it. I doubt its competitiveness would be even debatable if he were not. The yam became more competitive in the latter part of the season but was lacking in the first part compared to the HRC. These are the facts.
Yam had considerably less top speed
It had way less grunt for corner exit speed
It did have more mid corner speed but that was only due to lorenzos 250 style
It was slower on starts until the seamless box came
Its heavier on fuel and engines.
Depends what you're comparing to. The yam is competitive with Lorenzo riding it. I doubt its competitiveness would be even debatable if he were not. The yam became more competitive in the latter part of the season but was lacking in the first part compared to the HRC. These are the facts.
Yam had considerably less top speed
It had way less grunt for corner exit speed
It did have more mid corner speed but that was only due to lorenzos 250 style
It was slower on starts until the seamless box came
Its heavier on fuel and engines.
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That was the saddest part. Here's Lorenzo, deliberately trying to go slow, and still no one but MM and Dani could keep up. Those three really are on another level, although I would argue that Dani is clinging to that level by his fingernails.
That was the saddest part. Here's Lorenzo, deliberately trying to go slow, and still no one but MM and Dani could keep up. Those three really are on another level, although I would argue that Dani is clinging to that level by his fingernails.
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In my opinion, it is not which bike is better it is which bike allows the rider to make the difference.
The Yamaha is very dependent on the speed the electronics allow the bike to go. Everything is extremely controlled and limited by the electronics.
The Honda on the other hand is much more raw with the electronics acting to prevent catastrophe rather than minute control. This allows the riders to ring its neck if they have the ability. When they do ring its neck there is more available. More wheel spin, more horsepower. If the rider is good enough, as Marquez is and as Stoner was, they can ride beyond what the electronics engineer deems within the possibility of physics.
To put this simply, it is my opinion that if you were to total up the amount of horsepower available over a lap for the rider to use, the Honda total HP would exceed the Yamaha total HP. This is not a reflection of who has the most powerful engine but a reflection of how much the electronics allow the rider to have available to use.
In my opinion the Honda philosophy is much better and makes for a more spectacular ride. The Yamaha philosophy is bat .... boring.
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That's actually a good point. Having power is one thing if its on a dyno. Putting the power down in a usable way on track is quite another. Another thing i wonder about is with the yam struggling on fuel, when in a race and by how much does the ecu turn down the power?
That's actually a good point. Having power is one thing if its on a dyno. Putting the power down in a usable way on track is quite another. Another thing i wonder about is with the yam struggling on fuel, when in a race and by how much does the ecu turn down the power?
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God you are an ......
Clearly the Yamaha is a better bike, and just because rossi is not winning on it and your superiors ( Pedro and Marky ) are wining on the Honda .... you make up some crap of an excuse.
Just look at the Yamaha in the corners at Valencia.
God you are an ......
Clearly the Yamaha is a better bike, and just because rossi is not winning on it and your superiors ( Pedro and Marky ) are wining on the Honda .... you make up some crap of an excuse.
Just look at the Yamaha in the corners at Valencia.
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Some got yours though ..... even if you don't realize what a joke it is
Some got yours though ..... even if you don't realize what a joke it is
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vale getting rid of jb was one of his best decisions.... I believe vale kept him around 3 seasons to many. that guy got his rep from having the best riders.
nowt special...
and barry if u really think the Honda is better than the yam then u don't have a clue what ur on about and should leave bikes well alone..... the only advantage the yam has is mid corner.
the Honda is superior in corner entry and corner exit compliments of the gearbox.....
barry I see ur becoming a marquez fan just to hang around, u really are a clown. I remember you saying marquez was dangerous and should not be racing when he was in other class.... lol
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