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Turkey SPOILER

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Apr 24 2007, 08:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>good pictures but i just cant quite rule out contact with pedrosa and oj in frame 2. but i am open minded on the subject

Good point Roger, although even if Pedrosa and Jaque touched a bit not necessarily would have caused an accident, I guess it was when Jaque reached Eduards maybe…

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 24 2007, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If there was a rep system VMPH, I'd give you some, you're making some really amazing posts.

Heroic, but pointless effort by Rossi.

Thanks phleg… Pointless, risky and maybe even silly… but still have to admire it!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 24 2007, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If you look at it, the bike isn't over THAT much compared to the others.

Amazing to be that confident in hanging off it though.

It’s like his position I guess, because his head is inside more than others like Eduards!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Apr 24 2007, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what the honda isnt a good bike ? i think if he had a faster bike he would probably kill himself on it at the moment. and it takes more than the odd podium to make you champoionship material.
Well, if you looked at the top speed of his Honda, you could see that Elias and Melandris bike were not even in the top 9; Rossis bike was.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ Apr 24 2007, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, if you looked at the top speed of his Honda, you could see that Elias and Melandris bike were not even in the top 9; Rossis bike was.

What about last year? He had the best bike on the grid.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Apr 24 2007, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Refer to Posts #123 on from Thread “Turkey SPOILER” please…
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http://www.motogpforum.com/forum/index.php...120&#entry62436

Stop the shameless plugging!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 24 2007, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He had that last year, and what did he do? Get one win and a bunch of crap results. I bet Stoner et al are REALLY crapping themselves.
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As far as I recall, Rossi never nerfed Hopper on the straight.

Yes, of course. If you forget the fact that he was injured most of the year ...

And Rossi did touch Hopper in the corner. Did you see Melandris pass btw on Hopper ? Did you see how Hopper reacted ? He moved his line !!! If he didn't they would have been in exact the same situation as Elias and Rossi. But the thing is Hopper wasn't driving dangerous and changed his line. Rossi just continued and thought Elias would be a chicken and back off but he didn't !!! So that incident was nothing. It was racing between 2 guys who were not afraid of each other and pushed to the limit and the best of the moment won.
But instead of being gracefull in his defeat, he starts wining like a little girlie.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ Apr 24 2007, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, if you looked at the top speed of his Honda, you could see that Elias and Melandris bike were not even in the top 9; Rossis bike was.
well i think these 800's have proved that its not all down to top end that gives the fast lap times ,it late on the breaks carry more corner speed and get back on the gas earler, these 800s are slower than the 990's but are punching out faster lap times,.
how many races did rossi win on a slower bike ?
dont get me wrong,i like elias in a marco way,i think there good but not 46 good.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 24 2007, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What about last year? He had the best bike on the grid.

The best bike on the grid ?? Are you a stand up comedian or something ? By the way, Elias was injured most of the year anyway.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ Apr 24 2007, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes, of course. If you forget the fact that he was injured most of the year ...

Yeah, and whos fault is it?

Not our fault he can't stay on a bike most of the time.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ Apr 24 2007, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The best bike on the grid ?? Are you a stand up comedian or something ? By the way, Elias was injured most of the year anyway.

Yeah, you know, the V5 Honda? Don't give me the satellite team ........, his teammate won a shedload of races and that bike, and a rider on a V5 Honda won the championship.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 24 2007, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, and whos fault is it?

Not our fault he can't stay on a bike most of the time.
Yeah, you know, the V5 Honda? Don't give me the satellite team ........, his teammate won a shedload of races and that bike, and a rider on a V5 Honda won the championship.

Nicky's bike was significantly different. But there was nothing wrong with Elias' bike last year. IMO the yamaha was a better bike when it was working (portugal for example) but not by much.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Apr 24 2007, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nicky's bike was significantly different. But there was nothing wrong with Elias' bike last year. IMO the yamaha was a better bike when it was working (portugal for example) but not by much.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 24 2007, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, and whos fault is it?

Not our fault he can't stay on a bike most of the time.
Yeah, you know, the V5 Honda? Don't give me the satellite team ........, his teammate won a shedload of races and that bike, and a rider on a V5 Honda won the championship.

Well I don't remember how he got injured. Did he fall by himself or did someone mad him fall ? I don't know. But I do know things like that happen to everyone. Rossi fell several times by himself, Pedrosa fell by himself and a bunch of others. Elias was just unlucky to fall and get injured a long time.

Anyway, you were the one doubting about his skills because he didn't achieve much last year. You don't have to be smart to understand that if you are injured and not competing, you can't win races, can you ?

No, I don't give you satelite ......... Rossi is riding the best bike. Don't come with the "Yamaha is not as good as the Honda"-.........
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ Apr 24 2007, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well I don't remember how he got injured. Did he fall by himself or did someone mad him fall ? I don't know. But I do know things like that happen to everyone. Rossi fell several times by himself, Pedrosa fell by himself and a bunch of others. Elias was just unlucky to fall and get injured a long time.

Anyway, you were the one doubting about his skills because he didn't achieve much last year. You don't have to be smart to understand that if you are injured and not competing, you can't win races, can you ?

No, I don't give you satelite ......... Rossi is riding the best bike. Don't come with the "Yamaha is not as good as the Honda"-.........

Nah, Honda's 8 wins means jack-.... I guess.

Why wasn't Toni as good as Rossi on a Yamaha in 05? That was the best bike out there by far, yet he still gave lowly results on that aswell.

12 Elias Yamaha 12 14 14 9 13 9 12 14 9 11 8 9 6 10 74

Champ pos,rider,team, results race by race.

A Honda was his dream ticket.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Apr 24 2007, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nah, Honda's 8 wins means jack-.... I guess.

Why wasn't Toni as good as Rossi on a Yamaha in 05? That was the best bike out there by far, yet he still gave lowly results on that aswell.

12 Elias Yamaha 12 14 14 9 13 9 12 14 9 11 8 9 6 10 74

Champ pos,rider,team, results race by race.

A Honda was his dream ticket.
Maybe because he was a rookie and still had a lot to learn ? And maybe also because Rossi is the man of Yamaha and gets the best material of Yamaha ? Just maybe ...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Apr 24 2007, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>More evidence (Part IV).

Now, you have to love this one… Knee pads, crap… give him Elbow pads too!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Apr 22 2007, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"I'm quite unhappy with Elias today because I think he was quite dangerous"
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It's funny to see Rossi whining like Biaggi, my tyres blah blah, Elías blah blah!

Now the Rossi fans will jump at my neck but I HAD to say it!
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Rossi is through .... he'll never win another race.

All hail Casey Stoner.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ssiperko @ Apr 24 2007, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi is through .... he'll never win another race.

All hail Casey Stoner.
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turn coat
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ Apr 24 2007, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well I don't remember how he got injured.
he broke his collar bone in a practice crash at assen.
 

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