*SPOILERS* Jerez Race Thread

[LittleEgg]

because he took Stoner out

Yes in a non related way.

 

[michaelm]

The whole exchange had the air of someone understandably upset lacking class.

Please list examples of rossi demonstrating class when taken out by a reckless move.

 

[Keshav]

Welldone to Hayden, Congratulations. nice interview with bbc.

Finally he beat the 4th. Today he sat on the 4th for the most and it looked he wasn't meant to score the podium. every time a front ronner crashed, someone overtook him, but he was good to keep his bike right untill the end.



After all it was'nt a bad race, a lot happened.



Simonchelli did very well, it was a pitty to see him make those mistakes. he will learn from it hopefully.

Stoner lost a podium at least. this put him behind Lorenzo and Pedrosa in the championship. What will they say in their interviews?



Lorenzo, the luckiest, but at the same time the best. When Pedrosa came behind him, i thought he cant do anything about it, but he rode even faster and a few laps later he was +4 ahead.



Pedrosa did the most he could and with his form i think he'll be very happy with the results, especially now that he is the leading Honda.

Ben missed a podium and a great result, but in a wet track they make mitakes a lot easier.

What happened with Edwards, he overtook Hayden for a few seconds, and then crashed?

these two cant finish next to eachother.



Now again waiting for the next gp, and this time for a month.

Couldn't believe it. He had 2nd sewn up. As soon as he got past Dani - he sped up - doing laptimes

something like 1.5 seconds a lap faster than Dani. He was trying to run away - when Dani was fading fast.

 

[kieran]

Stoner does himself no favours again. He’s already one of the most disliked riders out there, so making childish, sarcastic comments to one of the most popular riders out there is only going to make him even more un-popular.

Contrary to what you may believe, Stoner's popularity is going up with just about anyone who isn't a Rossi fan.

 

[#46]

rossi = dangerous. ... thats racing

riding 200hp bike in wet .. dangerous risky... that's racing

 

[chopperman]

Quite possibly he was displaying the race craft you guys contend he lacks, knew simoncelli (and rossi) were going too fast as proved to be the case and was intending to make a move later in the race when his fuel load lightened as at qatar.

That maybe so but the fact was his lap times were concideribly slower than rossis there for not only inviting rossi to pass but others also. Had stone used his "race craft" and kept up he wouldnt have made riders behind so eager to pass and not let simonchelli and lornzo get away. Stoner would have held him up and that invited the pass, let alond the gap he presented whould have fittd a bus through.

 

[Jumkie]

Honestly, there is no reason to argue with anybody saying nothing was wrong with Rossi's pass or a variation of it. This was not a simple racing incident. Yes its raining, so this is when you pass with more care, Spies put on a clinic on this today (he crashed out and only effected himself, but was very careful to pass Pedro). That pass is NOT just a mistake. They are all human and make mistakes sure, but not every screw up can be categorized as just human error. Its delusional as Alberto Puig blaming Nicky when Pedro torpedoed him. In both occasions, it was simply the result of a man who is blind by jealous arrogance, and I'll ad cowardice. At very least Rossi went in to apologize, unlike Pedro. Though Vale not taking off his helmet was chickenshit. Again, there will be a lot of Boppers trying to split hairs on the DeAnglesk pass attempt, but you will convince nobody with basic sanity.



I'd like for all the members who talked .... about Toni Elias in 2006 (who are still here) to denounce Rossi with the same vigor.

 

[michaelm]

That maybe so but the fact was his lap times were concideribly slower than rossis there for not only inviting rossi to pass but others also. Had stone used his "race craft" and kept up he wouldnt have made riders behind so eager to pass and not let simonchelli and lornzo get away. Stoner would have held him up and that invited the pass, let alond the gap he presented whould have fittd a bus through.

Simoncelli crashed. Perhaps stoner should have chased dani at sachsenring in 2008.

 

[Pinky]

rossi ingenuine for not taking his helmet. how can he apologise with a helemt on?



i guess hes used to these sorts of accessories with uccio LOL

 

[LittleEgg]

Please list examples of rossi demonstrating class when taken out by a reckless move.

lol...



It really matters not, because its really more about stoner having a rep for moaning, and this not helping that image.



When someone comes and aknowledges their mistake and apologises......show some class and take it and move on.



Humility is a likeable thing.

 

[Keshav]

If the front end hadn't tucked like that he would have made it, you can't tell me he would run into a corner at that speed knowing he wouldn't make it.

Bon - If he'd had used good judgment he wouldn't have tried that move on his first ride on the Duc - in the rain.

It was stupid and reckless. Especially that early in the race. The move was as reckless and unprofessional as his lame

attempt to grab the holeshot at Qatar from way the hell back on the grid. Irresponsible show-boating is what it was.

 

[OrangeWhiteRed]

I'm sorry to sound offensive maybe, but with all this speculation about the Rossi/toner incident it seems to be in a soccer forum. You want this sport to return to the golden age of man-lish motorcycle racing? First stop discussing about any fart you hear/smell. I just wonder what a hell of a race it would have been if Rossi and Stoner didn't crash.

 

[LittleEgg]

Contrary to what you may believe, Stoner's popularity was going up with just about anyone who isn't a Rossi fan.

 

[Pinky]

seriously there should be some sort of penalty for rossi.... doesnt seem right for rossi to get a 5th

 

[chopperman]

Simoncelli crashed. Perhaps stoner should have chased dani at sachsenring in 2008.

Stop being pedantic, without watching again i cant remnember weather simonc crashed before or after but its a mute point cos lorenzo was still getting away was he not??

 

[Keshav]

That was one crazy race...



Was truly impressed by simo yet again. Shame his inexperience let him down once again.



Lorenzo i had down as the winner from the start and about 1 minute before the rossi/stoner crash i kept thinking he was playing exactly the right tactic.



Rossi i was annoyed with today. He did amazingly well coming through the pack that fast, but there lay the problem.....for someone who is so vastly experienced he should have calmed it right down once he got to around 4th place. I always thought that rossi was at his best as a "chaser" and really didnt see the need for the urgency he was showing in getting past everyone from 5th onward.....with 20 odd laps left he just didnt need to rush it.



Stoner was unfortunate today, however his reaction after having a whole race to calm down and consider the situation was one that doesnt help his moaner image...he had the right to be pissed off, but at least show some class.



hayden podium at the end

and rossi 5th

I was joking with a mate, saying that if they miraculously sort the duc out in a couple of races...that "takedown" could be the smartest move in rossi's career

Joking aside it sucked but i would have way more sympathy for casey had he just accepted the gesture, and showed a little more class. He sounded like one of you haters.

He didn't hit him in the head with torque wrench... not even once.

 

[#46]

I'm sorry to sound offensive maybe, but with all this speculation about the Rossi/toner incident it seems to be in a soccer forum. You want this sport to return to the golden age of man-lish motorcycle racing? First stop discussing about any fart you hear/smell. I just wonder what a hell of a race it would have been if Rossi and Stoner didn't crash.

Spot on!

 

[Pinky]

congrats to hayden... accidental podium...

 

[LittleEgg]

Bon - If he'd had used good judgment he wouldn't have tried that move on his first ride on the Duc - in the rain.

It was stupid and reckless. Especially that early in the race. The move was as reckless and unprofessional as his lame

attempt to grab the holeshot at Qatar from way the hell back on the grid. Irresponsible show-boating is what it was.

Prior to the incedent, he passed a few others in similar fashion...



Obviously he had a good feeling from the bike, up until that point.



This thread is already killed lol.

 

[#46]

Stop being pedantic, without watching again i cant remnember weather simonc crashed before or after but its a mute point cos lorenzo was still getting away was he not??

after, so....