whereas rossi can say "oh look at me i am a gay ... ... who prances around like a show pony, talks like a girl and sleeps with my fat ... friend" but people will still say "nnnnnnnnnah hes not gay"
Sachsenring race!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hawkdriver @ Jul 19 2009, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'll probably get flamed for this but
I hope Lorenzo eventually learns how to shut the door on the people behind him, is it just me or are there team orders going on. I need to see some replays but I don't think he ran that line into that corner the entire race, maybe he was just being nice and giving Rossi plenty of room but all the other passes in this race were much tighter.
team orders...give me a break dude. this is not f1, and even if there were such orders, lorenzo is certainly not one to move over and let his teamate by or not pass him.
it is just you...
I hope Lorenzo eventually learns how to shut the door on the people behind him, is it just me or are there team orders going on. I need to see some replays but I don't think he ran that line into that corner the entire race, maybe he was just being nice and giving Rossi plenty of room but all the other passes in this race were much tighter.
team orders...give me a break dude. this is not f1, and even if there were such orders, lorenzo is certainly not one to move over and let his teamate by or not pass him.
it is just you...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 20 2009, 07:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>whereas rossi can say "oh look at me i am a gay ... ... who prances around like a show pony, talks like a girl and sleeps with my fat ... friend" but people will still say "nnnnnnnnnah hes not gay"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 19 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>nah, they got past him nice and clean mate
I know they got by clean, but was the bike in a position that prevented Lorenzo from trying a pass? It was on the inside IIRC. I was surprised Lorenzo didn't at least try a pass and run wide. I thought he was close enough, was he?
Not trying to take away from Rossi's great win. He still has that extra ability to make things happen, which Lorenzo doesn't yet possess.
I know they got by clean, but was the bike in a position that prevented Lorenzo from trying a pass? It was on the inside IIRC. I was surprised Lorenzo didn't at least try a pass and run wide. I thought he was close enough, was he?
Not trying to take away from Rossi's great win. He still has that extra ability to make things happen, which Lorenzo doesn't yet possess.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Jul 20 2009, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know they got by clean, but was the bike in a position that prevented Lorenzo from trying a pass? It was on the inside IIRC. I was surprised Lorenzo didn't at least try a pass and run wide. I thought he was close enough, was he?
Not trying to take away from Rossi's great win. He still has that extra ability to make things happen, which Lorenzo doesn't yet possess.
Ah i see what you mean. i think lorenzo was only 2 or 3 bike lengths behind to probably less than 2 tenths so mabe it did limit any lines he could use to make a pass.
Rossi's pass supprised me. i thought he would have passed jorge on turn 13 but passed him in turn 1. what a cracking race
Not trying to take away from Rossi's great win. He still has that extra ability to make things happen, which Lorenzo doesn't yet possess.
Ah i see what you mean. i think lorenzo was only 2 or 3 bike lengths behind to probably less than 2 tenths so mabe it did limit any lines he could use to make a pass.
Rossi's pass supprised me. i thought he would have passed jorge on turn 13 but passed him in turn 1. what a cracking race
First and second was determined as much by the motorcycle as it was by the riders. In 2007, Stoner had a clear speed advantage which made it easy for everyone to say "its the bike". In 2009 the Yamaha is more superior in every aspect then Stoners bike was in speed in 2007. I suggest you could put any of the top 6 - 8 riders on those 2 Yamaha's and they would be the ones fighting for the championship. Every bike has a maximum potential speed around a race track and the Factory Yamaha's maximum is just faster than all the others. Put Jorge on the Honda as it is and he would probably be fighting back where Dovi is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Jul 20 2009, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>First and second was determined as much by the motorcycle as it was by the riders. In 2007, Stoner had a clear speed advantage which made it easy for everyone to say "its the bike". In 2009 the Yamaha is more superior in every aspect then Stoners bike was in speed in 2007. I suggest you could put any of the top 6 - 8 riders on those 2 Yamaha's and they would be the ones fighting for the championship. Every bike has a maximum potential speed around a race track and the Factory Yamaha's maximum is just faster than all the others. Put Jorge on the Honda as it is and he would probably be fighting back where Dovi is.
oh i see, you want rossi fans to reply to this ..... so the other stoner fans namely SoD can come in here bleating its the same old rossi fans ....... up the thread again.
oh i see, you want rossi fans to reply to this ..... so the other stoner fans namely SoD can come in here bleating its the same old rossi fans ....... up the thread again.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Jul 20 2009, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>First and second was determined as much by the motorcycle as it was by the riders. In 2007, Stoner had a clear speed advantage which made it easy for everyone to say "its the bike". In 2009 the Yamaha is more superior in every aspect then Stoners bike was in speed in 2007. I suggest you could put any of the top 6 - 8 riders on those 2 Yamaha's and they would be the ones fighting for the championship. Every bike has a maximum potential speed around a race track and the Factory Yamaha's maximum is just faster than all the others. Put Jorge on the Honda as it is and he would probably be fighting back where Dovi is.
Your wrong in every aspect of this.
Your wrong in every aspect of this.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 20 2009, 02:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's ok - we don't have to live anywhere near England here.
Touche!
Pete
Touche!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 20 2009, 07:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>next time he should just say "i had a perfect race, i raced perfect, bike was perfect, setup perfect, tires perfect" and people would still complain that he is complaining, becuase he mentioned himself before the bike.
Did somebody mention ....?
Pete
Did somebody mention ....?
Pete
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Jul 20 2009, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh i see, you want rossi fans to reply to this ..... so the other stoner fans namely SoD can come in here bleating its the same old rossi fans ....... up the thread again.
You know - you don't have to actually comment on every post that is put up here.
Any time someone mentions that Rossi may have an advantage, (which he does, ie the factory yamaha), clearly the best bike out there, you come storming into the thread like a 5 year old who has had his lollies taken off him throwing a tantrum, that Rossi could never have any advantage at all.
Any time someone mentions that Rossi may have an advantage, (which he does, ie the factory yamaha), clearly the best bike out there, you come storming into the thread like a 5 year old who has had his lollies taken off him throwing a tantrum, that Rossi could never have any advantage at all.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jul 20 2009, 02:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You have made no comment about yamaha obviously giving rossi a bike which is faster than lorenzo's; it's a disgrace
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Good race though; 4 riders with almost equal pace for a large part of the race.
Not to mention the fact that Rossi's tyres were rounder and blacker than Lorenzo's. It's a scandal. Seriously (sobered up noo!) great race, some cracking stuff going on down the field.
It's all good!
Pete
Good race though; 4 riders with almost equal pace for a large part of the race.
Not to mention the fact that Rossi's tyres were rounder and blacker than Lorenzo's. It's a scandal. Seriously (sobered up noo!) great race, some cracking stuff going on down the field.
It's all good!
Pete
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 20 2009, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not to mention the fact that Rossi's tyres were rounder and blacker than Lorenzo's. It's a scandal. Seriously (sobered up noo!) great race, some cracking stuff going on down the field.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jul 20 2009, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
You know - you don't have to actually comment on every post that is put up here.
Any time someone mentions that Rossi may have an advantage, (which he does, ie the factory yamaha), clearly the best bike out there, you come storming into the thread like a 5 year old who has had his lollies taken off him throwing a tantrum, that Rossi could never have any advantage at all.
well i didn't say the yam isn't the best bike at the moment. just questioning the motives behind TP70's comments.
infact i would not only say the fiat yam is the best all round bike, i'd say it had the best riders on board, the best crew chief, best mechanics, best team and best factory executives making all that possible. How could you not be a fan of that ?
but saying that stoner's bike didn't look to disadvantage, well not in the first 3 laps anyway
Any time someone mentions that Rossi may have an advantage, (which he does, ie the factory yamaha), clearly the best bike out there, you come storming into the thread like a 5 year old who has had his lollies taken off him throwing a tantrum, that Rossi could never have any advantage at all.
well i didn't say the yam isn't the best bike at the moment. just questioning the motives behind TP70's comments.
infact i would not only say the fiat yam is the best all round bike, i'd say it had the best riders on board, the best crew chief, best mechanics, best team and best factory executives making all that possible. How could you not be a fan of that ?
but saying that stoner's bike didn't look to disadvantage, well not in the first 3 laps anyway
All this talk about Rossi's podium record, he also set another record by making Sachsenring his 159th consecutive premier class race start.
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/motogp+racing+numbers
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/motogp+racing+numbers
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Jul 20 2009, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>First and second was determined as much by the motorcycle as it was by the riders. In 2007, Stoner had a clear speed advantage which made it easy for everyone to say "its the bike". In 2009 the Yamaha is more superior in every aspect then Stoners bike was in speed in 2007. I suggest you could put any of the top 6 - 8 riders on those 2 Yamaha's and they would be the ones fighting for the championship. Every bike has a maximum potential speed around a race track and the Factory Yamaha's maximum is just faster than all the others. Put Jorge on the Honda as it is and he would probably be fighting back where Dovi is.
Just like a casey supporter, always as wrong as cs is. Maybe he wouldn't have the pace as rossi, but I would say he would still have been battling out with peddles. That still puts him ahead of your poor little sour patch kid.
FYI did you know one of the more common causes of anemia is pregnancy? Lets see mourning sickness, low iron levels, and imbalanced hormones. Yup I would say are little lady is expecting, careful Buddy your now riding for two.
Just like a casey supporter, always as wrong as cs is. Maybe he wouldn't have the pace as rossi, but I would say he would still have been battling out with peddles. That still puts him ahead of your poor little sour patch kid.
FYI did you know one of the more common causes of anemia is pregnancy? Lets see mourning sickness, low iron levels, and imbalanced hormones. Yup I would say are little lady is expecting, careful Buddy your now riding for two.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Jul 20 2009, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just like a casey supporter, always as wrong as cs is. Maybe he wouldn't have the pace as rossi, but I would say he would still have been battling out with peddles. That still puts him ahead of your poor little sour patch kid.
FYI did you know one of the more common causes of anemia is pregnancy? Lets see mourning sickness, low iron levels, and imbalanced hormones. Yup I would say are little lady is expecting, careful Buddy your now riding for two.
must have happened when they were getting the sand out of his ......
FYI did you know one of the more common causes of anemia is pregnancy? Lets see mourning sickness, low iron levels, and imbalanced hormones. Yup I would say are little lady is expecting, careful Buddy your now riding for two.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Jul 19 2009, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>that would have to be finishing on the podium in all of the races to follow and then plus 15 of next season
Sorry Writer, I guess I didn't separate…
1.- 101 wins and needs 23 to break the all time Record from Agostini. Could be 22 more, depending on how it is accounted, Agostini considers a 750 win to a total of 123. So in this matter, Rossi would need 23 to achieve 124 to 'Have the Record in the Bag'. And also in this matter, we have 9 races left in 2009, and we are going to have 18 in 2010, applying Rossi's 47.17% average wins, we need 49 more races. Meaning all 2009, 2010, 2011 plus 4 races from 2012, by the time Rossi gets there. So Agostini was saying this plus a couple more seasons to get it, and he has bases. So I say GO GOAT, GO ROSSI!!!
2.- Rossi already tide the Most Carrier Podiums from Agostini too, this is just a matter of one more race to be broken perhaps.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Jul 20 2009, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In 2007, Stoner had a clear speed advantage.
So you do, accept that 2007 Ducati/Bridgestone advantage?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mjpartyboy @ Jul 20 2009, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>All this talk about Rossi's podium record, he also set another record by making Sachsenring his 159th consecutive premier class race start.
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/motogp+racing+numbers
8 Championships.
101 wins, only second rider in history.
101 wins / 218 appearances = 46.33% all classes.
75 wins / 159 appearances = 47.17% MotoGP / 500cc.
Rider with most MotoGP wins 75, and 123 podiums.
<u>The most starts (159) in a row without missing a race in top class</u>.
Only Champion on 125, 250, 500, 990, 800cc categories.
Only Champion that has won on 6 different bikes.
Only rider in history to win back to back Races with different 'Bikes'.
The Champion with the most points in a season, 373 in 2008.
Has won at least Once in fourteen Seasons in a role.
Has won 11 races in a Season, 4 times.
The average points is 18.58 per race in MotoGP.
The average points in his six MotoGP Championships is 346.83.
Has won on 21/22 tracks in MotoGP, only not in Istanbul but has a 2nd place.
Has won on 27 different circuits.
Sorry Writer, I guess I didn't separate…
1.- 101 wins and needs 23 to break the all time Record from Agostini. Could be 22 more, depending on how it is accounted, Agostini considers a 750 win to a total of 123. So in this matter, Rossi would need 23 to achieve 124 to 'Have the Record in the Bag'. And also in this matter, we have 9 races left in 2009, and we are going to have 18 in 2010, applying Rossi's 47.17% average wins, we need 49 more races. Meaning all 2009, 2010, 2011 plus 4 races from 2012, by the time Rossi gets there. So Agostini was saying this plus a couple more seasons to get it, and he has bases. So I say GO GOAT, GO ROSSI!!!
2.- Rossi already tide the Most Carrier Podiums from Agostini too, this is just a matter of one more race to be broken perhaps.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Jul 20 2009, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In 2007, Stoner had a clear speed advantage.
So you do, accept that 2007 Ducati/Bridgestone advantage?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mjpartyboy @ Jul 20 2009, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>All this talk about Rossi's podium record, he also set another record by making Sachsenring his 159th consecutive premier class race start.
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/motogp+racing+numbers
8 Championships.
101 wins, only second rider in history.
101 wins / 218 appearances = 46.33% all classes.
75 wins / 159 appearances = 47.17% MotoGP / 500cc.
Rider with most MotoGP wins 75, and 123 podiums.
<u>The most starts (159) in a row without missing a race in top class</u>.
Only Champion on 125, 250, 500, 990, 800cc categories.
Only Champion that has won on 6 different bikes.
Only rider in history to win back to back Races with different 'Bikes'.
The Champion with the most points in a season, 373 in 2008.
Has won at least Once in fourteen Seasons in a role.
Has won 11 races in a Season, 4 times.
The average points is 18.58 per race in MotoGP.
The average points in his six MotoGP Championships is 346.83.
Has won on 21/22 tracks in MotoGP, only not in Istanbul but has a 2nd place.
Has won on 27 different circuits.
How did Talmacsi go from a jobless 250 rider to racing in the big class?!
He may have scored his first point, but two riders in front of him didn't finish the race, placing him 15th, and he still finished last.
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/Talmacs...+in+Sachsenring
http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistic.../GER/MotoGP/RAC
He may have scored his first point, but two riders in front of him didn't finish the race, placing him 15th, and he still finished last.
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/Talmacs...+in+Sachsenring
http://www.motogp.com/en/Results+Statistic.../GER/MotoGP/RAC
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