Round 13: 2016 San Marino Grand Prix - Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli

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Pol Espargaro at the top for FP2.

Results...

1. Pol Espargaro ESP Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 32.769s [Lap 16/19] 289km/h (Top Speed)
2. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 32.834s +0.065s [21/22] 290km/h
3. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 32.901s +0.132s [18/20] 294km/h
4. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 33.056s +0.287s [17/18] 290km/h
5. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 33.196s +0.427s [18/20] 287km/h
6. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 33.387s +0.618s [17/20] 287km/h
7. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 33.500s +0.731s [16/19] 287km/h
8. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 33.552s +0.783s [17/19] 288km/h
9. Hector Barbera ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 33.581s +0.812s [17/18] 288km/h
10. Maverick Viñales ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 33.629s +0.860s [20/20] 289km/h
11. Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 33.643s +0.874s [11/20] 285km/h
12. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 33.803s +1.034s [17/19] 289km/h
13. Alvaro Bautista ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 33.846s +1.077s [21/22] 287km/h
14. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) 1m 33.885s +1.116s [20/20] 290km/h
15. Alex Lowes GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1) 1m 34.154s +1.385s [18/21] 288km/h
16. Eugene Laverty IRL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 34.457s +1.688s [10/17] 289km/h
17. Stefan Bradl GER Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 34.631s +1.862s [4/18] 285km/h
18. Yonny Hernandez COL Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 34.719s +1.950s [19/19] 288km/h
19. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)* 1m 34.725s +1.956s [22/22] 284km/h
20. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 35.062s +2.293s [16/18] 284km/h
21. Javier Fores ESP Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) 1m 36.046s +3.277s [8/18] 283km/h
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Jumkie said:
I don't buy the RCV is the 'main' problem, but rather the tires first, then and a distance then, are the unmitigated issues with the Honda.

The RCV was reportedly a piece of .... last year, hell poor Marquez was even described as riding with one arm tied behind his back, the Honda was supposedly so bad. Yet Marquez managed more wins, and was in contention to win when he crashed out. The RCV is NOT worse than last year's. The assessment mistake I've read repeatedly is that because the RCV appears lose under Marc its a dog. Yet the RCV looks more planted with Pedrosa. Why would that be? Style perhaps? Pedrosa is nowhere this year, and that's a function of TIRES not his bike. Yes, I've read excellent cases made for the RCV's woes, and though they surely contribute to the Honda's issues, it's the MICHELIN TIRES (with a peculiar development direction) that have presented the greatest challenge.


If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
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I think the bike is slightly better this year but further away from the Yamaha than last year not that you could tell from just looking at the points. This year, there has been really one track where the Honda was better than the Yamaha and that was COTA, Maybe Argentina, but that race turned on a bike swap. This season was set up for a Yamaha runaway but a little bad luck and a lot of rider .... ups have derailed what should have been an easy championship. I think the Honda is better than what Pedrosa has got out of it , but nowhere near as good as what Marquez has got out of it. A weird season indeed.
 
From Ducati Twitter -
Update on @andreaiannone29 declared fit to be reviewed


Strange considering a back injury
 
povol said:
I think the bike is slightly better this year but further away from the Yamaha than last year not that you could tell from just looking at the points. This year, there has been really one track where the Honda was better than the Yamaha and that was COTA, Maybe Argentina, but that race turned on a bike swap. This season was set up for a Yamaha runaway but a little bad luck and a lot of rider .... ups have derailed what should have been an easy championship. I think the Honda is better than what Pedrosa has got out of it , but nowhere near as good as what Marquez has got out of it. A weird season indeed.
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Bottom line: Marquez is - in Stoner-fashion - out-riding the Honda's deficiencies. Pedrosa is riding it at what Dani perceives as the limits of safety and of course - within the limitations of his style and distaste for risk. I doubt it has much to do with Dani's size as in the past. Marquez is a freaking skeleton and not of great stature.
 
JPSLotus said:
He'll have two weeks till Aragon to heal up somewhat, but I'm thinking with a vertebrae fracture he will probably miss the next race unless he heals up quickly.
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I fractured a vertibrae when I was young and it's a long recovery with out sport if you want to do it properly. I'm interested to see what he and his team decide to do.
 
Keshav said:
Bottom line: Marquez is - in Stoner-fashion - out-riding the Honda's deficiencies. Pedrosa is riding it at what Dani perceives as the limits of safety and of course - within the limitations of his style and distaste for risk. I doubt it has much to do with Dani's size as in the past. Marquez is a freaking skeleton and not of great stature.
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I don't agree with that, Marquez was the difference at the track. .... even Lorenzo said so after the race.
 
GeniusAtTwerk said:
Based on Rossi in FP1, looks like this weekend has an asterisk already.
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Why start or stop at this weekend? Why not an asterisk next to every race from his return to Yamaha brokered (coerced) by Carmelo Clause himself. At very least every podium trophy should bare: presented to Team DornaRossi.



If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
 
p4p1 said:
There was really nothing in it from what I saw. 2015 Rossi in 3,2,
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I thought he was attempting to manufacture a slight, much like the post-Phillip Island 2015 slight he manufactured.

Rossi had plenty of room to clear past Asparagus instead of ranting like a lunatic.
 
Apparently Iannone could race anyway...which I would consider monumental stupidity if he goes through with it. Given he is not racing for a seat anymore at Ducati, or anywhere else since has the Suzuki contract locked own, there's no upside to racing. A lot of downside if he crashes again and that T3 fracture turns into something worse.

Ducati's Andrea Iannone could still take part in the San Marino Grand Prix despite sustaining injuries in a high-speed crash in first practice.

Reported as being in a lot of pain after the crash, Iannone was initially ruled unfit for the Misano race as a medical examination at a hospital in nearby Cesena revealed a T3 vertebra fracture.

The Italian missed second practice as a result and was expected to sit out the rest of the weekend, but was subsequently declared provisionally fit, with the fracture reported as "small and stable".

His condition will be reviewed at the medical centre on Saturday morning before FP3.

Iannone has six more grands prix left in his tenure as a factory Ducati rider, as he will be switching to Suzuki in 2017.

Iannone could race at Misano despite fracture
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JPSLotus said:
Apparently Iannone could race anyway...which I would consider monumental stupidity if he goes through with it. Given he is not racing for a seat anymore at Ducati, or anywhere else since has the Suzuki contract locked own, there's no upside to racing. A lot of downside if he crashes again and that T3 fracture turns into something worse.
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Being monumentally stupid would hardly require a drastic behaviour change from him.

I was looking forward to your thesis about the effects of Stoner's development at a track at which he has tested extensively being proven, but it already wasn't looking like Austria. Hard to know on the information published how much risk would be involved, but the potential for a significant result for him would seem low.
 
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JPSLotus said:
I thought he was attempting to manufacture a slight, much like the post-Phillip Island 2015 slight he manufactured.

Rossi had plenty of room to clear past Asparagus instead of ranting like a lunatic.
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I thought that as well, there was plenty of room to go around him. The chosen one just didn't believe that he should do such things.
 
gekko1ro said:
For Iannone, racing home for his own fans is a temptation he can't resist.
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Exactly. It's his home GP, friends and family there, not to mention he is after all a racer, sanguine type A personalities. He crashed out of his previous race, likely wants to wash that taste out of his system. Look at Miller, he shouldn't have raced Silverstone either, and he crashed again. These guys aren't like us. Iannone being Italian on a ducati, Misano is like putting blood in a pool to a shark, he practically can't help himself. He'd rather risk being seriously hurt than missing this race. Frankly, that probably doesn't go into his thought processes, they can't really race thinking they're gonna get hurt.

For his sake, I hope either his team or someone with independent perspective shields him from himself. I like Iannone, despite his major mistakes. Given he is racing at a track named for a beloved man who took similar liberties with safety to himself and others, I hope the decision to race is made by someone other than Iannone.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
 

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