Round 13: 2016 San Marino Grand Prix - Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli

Aw Mang · Sep 9, 2016

It's Alexi's fault obviously. He is supposed to move out of the way for King Rossi. Without Rossi, there would be no Motogp, as someone would say!!

Seriously why can't Rossi just shut the .... up? If this happens in qualifying then I can understand why Rossi or other racers would be pissed. It's just practice, for .... sake. .... happens, sometimes.

Jumkie · Sep 9, 2016

Gavin Emmett: You hardly see Valentino Rossi losing his cool like that.

Nick Harris: No, not at all, hardly ever actually.

In other news, the moon is made of cheese.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

aaronl · Sep 9, 2016

Not a good look. This may as been mentioned the start of this years melt down.

I wonder if when he finally does retire, folks will say "he should have been 11/12? Times world champ, if only .... hadn't happened".

Quite like Doohan, "could have won 7 in a row if it wasn't for the broken leg"

Iamapony · Sep 9, 2016

aaronl said:
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Quite like Doohan, "could have won 7 in a row if it wasn't for the broken leg"

Not like Doohan at all, in my opinion. Mick had real injury problems and his body was pretty beat up in general from all the 2 stroke highsides. Rossi is just going mental, and everyone blames his loses on someone else: the Spaniards, the Ducati, the tires, Stoner, the color of Uccio's briefs, etc..

Jumkie · Sep 9, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Right now Dovi's best times from both sessions are:

FP1: Andrea DoviziosoITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)1m 33.863s +0.412s[14/17]293km/h (7th overall)
FP2: Andrea DoviziosoITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP)1m 32.901s +0.132s[18/20]294km/h (3rd overall)

Did you guys notice how gingerly Dovi was dismounting from his bike? That knee injury is worse than he's let on.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

Jumkie · Sep 9, 2016

Iamapony said:
Rossi is just going mental, and everyone blames ...

Well, in Rossi’s defense, Aleix Espargaro bocked him from pole position today. Nick Harris said "Rossi lost 12 secs" on the lap he yelled obscenities at Espargaro. He was joking, but that still doesn't change the fact Valentino was thwarted from the Friday Championship.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

Jumkie · Sep 9, 2016

This is just too hysterical not to post again. I bust out laughing imagining Alesh's voice telling an indignant Mike Webb this .....
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Espargaro's actions earned him a visit from race director Mike Webb, who warned the Catalan to be more aware of the whereabouts of other riders on track.

“He came to the pits,” said Espargaro of Webb's visit. “It's NOT NORMAL, because HE NEVER comes to the pits. He always calls you to go there. But I imagine, SINCE IT'S VALENTINO, he came to the pits.

However, Espargaro contended that he was not a major obstruction for Rossi, and was angered by Webb's subsequent visit.

“He told me to be more aware, but I asked him if they checked the video, and he said 'Yes, and you are not in the middle, you did not disturb him.' And he said, 'But anyway, be more aware', and I said, 'I will not be more aware if I didn't disturb him.'

“I REPEATED THREE TIMES to him, "I disturbed him? Did you check the video?' And he told me no, I didn't disturb him. Then I say, 'Then go to talk with him, because I will not be more aware!"

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

Gaz · Sep 9, 2016

JPSLotus said:
Rossi went off on A.Asparagus for impeding him in FP2.

https://www.facebook.com/MotoGP/videos/10154804749280769/

I like how he was still raging as he rode past the pit wall and flipped the bird.

Interesting but there are some members who are still here (I suspect) under assumed names that not so long ago called for a certain rider to be hung, drawn and quartered for having the temerity to do that to their god.

There are also members here who attack and abuse others for having temerity to 'behave in childish manner' to others.

Their take on this petulance will be deafening in it's silence.

JPSLotus said:
Apparently Iannone could race anyway...which I would consider monumental stupidity if he goes through with it. Given he is not racing for a seat anymore at Ducati, or anywhere else since has the Suzuki contract locked own, there's no upside to racing. A lot of downside if he crashes again and that T3 fracture turns into something worse.

If he is allowed by doctors to race that opens up issues of litigation etc (I would think) were he to injure himself further.

Plus, was not Miller ruled out by GP doctors with his fracture so if similar, surely (and I say this sarcastically), one rule should apply to all as this is a fair and just sport is it not

michaelm said:
Being monumentally stupid would hardly require a drastic behaviour change from him.

My thoughts exactly Michael as I must admit that I enjoyed the excuse of 'arm pump caused me to crash' within a week after we went all Miley Cyrus (wrecking ball) on his car window with his right arm, which then pumped.

Jumkie said:
That's hysterical. Jesus, he couldn't let that go. He meandered the whole front straight. Which if you think about it was way worse than whatever Alesh did.

He was not meandering.

At his age that is his race pace

Keshav · Sep 9, 2016

p4p1 said:
I don't agree with that, Marquez was the difference at the track. .... even Lorenzo said so after the race.

Don't agree with what?

aaronl · Sep 9, 2016

Iamapony said:
Not like Doohan at all, in my opinion. Mick had real injury problems and his body was pretty beat up in general from all the 2 stroke highsides. Rossi is just going mental, and everyone blames his loses on someone else: the Spaniards, the Ducati, the tires, Stoner, the color of Uccio's briefs, etc..

I agree totally, unlike Doohan. But, they'll try to swing it anyway.

Iamapony · Sep 9, 2016

We could do a whole thread on what these guys say that we don't hear:

Rossi: "Mike, this is my race, my town, my people. You can't have no good Spaniards blocking my way. My headquarters are right up the street. What would my employees think of me, if I don't win Friday, Saturday, and Sunday? Capisca?

Webb: "I understand Mr. Motorcycle Doctor God Guy. I will talk to the upstart immediately."

Gaz · Sep 9, 2016

p4p1 said:
Espargaro reveals visit from race director over Rossi run-in

It's good read that throws up many questions. Thanks to Speed Dealer for the link.

So Webb goes and sees Epsargaro and tell him to be more aware but at the sine time admits he had done nothing wrong. Valeban of course defends Rossis reaction and says that it's all Aleixs fault and he should have more respect. Why go and see him if he has done nothing wrong? Have they gone and seen Rossi who was clearly in the wrong?
#IstandwithAleix

Wonder what the 'all things are fair' brigade think of this.

If Webb has spoken with AE and has confirmed that AE had done nothing wrong, then perhaps Webb should instead have spoken with a rider who displayed petulance on a track that may have bought the sport and perhaps another rider's reputation into disrepute.

Not an Aleix fan (not sure why, guy just doesn't interest me as a rider) but I do like his comments and digs back. Good to see that the young brigade are not taking a backward step to Rossi and perhaps this is once again, new territory

JPSLotus said:
It will be interesting to see if Vinales lasts the two years at Yamaha. Actually, when we hit the off-season, we should start predictions topic on how long it takes before Rossi is trying to turn the public against Vinales.

If Vinales is quicker in testing and finishes in front in more races - by end race 5.

Jumkie said:
Gavin Emmett: You hardly see Valentino Rossi losing his cool like that.

Nick Harris: No, not at all, hardly ever actually.

In other news, the moon is made of cheese.

Would expect nothing less from the sycophants.

Like many, these two check their guts and balls in at the door prior to entering a race weekend when it comes to the yellow one

Keshav · Sep 9, 2016

povol said:
Dude is ripped and a hulk compared to Dani.

Never seen the two of them in the raw - so difficult to make a comparison. I'v assumed that Dani keeps fit, much as any of these top riders.

JPSLotus · Sep 9, 2016

Gaz said:
Interesting but there are some members who are still here (I suspect) under assumed names that not so long ago called for a certain rider to be hung, drawn and quartered for having the temerity to do that to their god.

There are also members here who attack and abuse others for having temerity to 'behave in childish manner' to others.

Their take on this petulance will be deafening in it's silence.

I'm waiting to see what their rationalization will be over Rossi's behavior. Hard to believe this guy has 7 premier class championships to his name. I could understand it if something had actually happened, like Aleix meandering on the line through turn 11 causing Rossi to have to abort a flyer lap. But there was nothing that happened there. He's a clown.

If he is allowed by doctors to race that opens up issues of litigation etc (I would think) were he to injure himself further.

Plus, was not Miller ruled out by GP doctors with his fracture so if similar, surely (and I say this sarcastically), one rule should apply to all as this is a fair and just sport is it not

Well, I would say it depends on who the doctors are.

There's a part of me that still marvels that Iannone was able to win in Austria since he is a moron for the most part IMO. That SUV window smash video pretty much lowered my respect level for him. I no longer wonder why Ducati went with Dovi even in being the slower of the two.

Gaz · Sep 9, 2016

Rossi being coureous to fellow riders

http://i.imgur.com/Ra4L7bK.jpg

BarryMachine · Sep 9, 2016

Surely rossi is at the point where they realise he is unsafe to have on a track.

Hes dangerous.

Jumkie · Sep 9, 2016

Gaz said:
Wonder what the 'all things are fair' brigade think of this.

If Webb has spoken with AE and has confirmed that AE had done nothing wrong, then perhaps Webb should instead have spoken with a rider who displayed petulance on a track that may have bought the sport and perhaps another rider's reputation into disrepute.

Webb makes it a habit of admonishing rider's that he admits didn't do anything wrong. Marquez did nothing wrong at Sepang 15, Webb was all over him.

I like how Webb was compelled to come down from his office, walk into the pits for everyone to see to admonish Alex Espargaro. He had to make sure everyone else got the message.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

Gaz · Sep 9, 2016

And here is a little video - need facebook logon though - https://www.facebook.com/MotoGP/videos/10154804749280769/

Keshav · Sep 9, 2016

povol said:
Feel a little gay posting beach photo's of some dude, but its well documented how Marc has gotten into the weights

I don't suppose you just happen to have a beefcake shot of Dani handy nearby, just for comparison?

Gaz · Sep 9, 2016

Jumkie said:
I like how Webb was compelled to come down from his office, walk into the pits for everyone to see to admonish Alex Espargaro. He had to make sure everyone else got the message.
.

This is the concern I have Jums.

Whilst I know the general perception of Webb, he has broken protocol to approach a rider in the pits as generally speaking, and as Aleix himself has said, a rider will be called before Race Direction, Race Direction does not generally visit the rider.

Whilst a lot will try to 'sugar coat' this approach by Webb in the pits, it is poor from Webb as it can easily be seen as an attempt to placate (in this case) Rossi and publically demean Aleix.

Will be interesting if DORNA release any official statement as to rider penalties etc and if this is mentioned, as if not and if it was deemed unofficial, then Webb should not have had any DORNA labelled gear on at the time.

But I suggest we truly both agree on what, why and who

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