Round 13: 2016 San Marino Grand Prix - Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli

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We Doohan fans do like to wistfully think that Mick had the wherewithal to win 2 more titles than he did, but in most respects have to be happy that he won any at all after the horrendous leg injury. Everyone did know back then that him crashing out at Assen was what happens in the sport, and no-one sought to take Rainey's third title away given he stayed on his bike the whole season, something that was the first requirement and not one easily met with the vicious 500 2 strokes of those days as tragically proved to be the case for Wayne the following year. As I have also frequently said, I don't recall anyone suggesting that riders other than Rainey pull over when Mick made his return for the last 2 races of 1992, a championship he actually still lost by a margin less than the 5 points which decided last year's championship.

The thing that is disturbing about the whole pulling over for VR mentality that came to the forefront down the stretch in 2015 is you NEVER saw such ........ in the 500cc era. If such a thing had occurred, the fans back then would not have been happy. Of course the fans back then weren't clad head to toe in yellow, and actively enjoying competitors crashing out of races if it meant their Yellow God benefited from the gained position(s).

The real unwritten rule of racing is not to bow out of fighting a guy contending for a title, it's to do everything you can to beat him on the track fairly and cleanly. This is what we should be getting from MM/VR, but we don't because VR is a proper .... who doesn't actually want to race lest the deck is stacked in his favor.

 
I also think that the tendency of Jorge's favourite Michelin to explode early season was likely not a deliberate design feature, but it will become increasingly suspicious if they continue not to come up with a non-exploding replacement.

Did any Michelin fronts explode buddy?
I thought Lorenzo was happy with the rear tyres and the early fronts, which have since been replaced with hard carcass types.
I thought it was the rear tyres that exploded like the one on Scottys Ducati.
Anyhow, in a series at this level its criminal that riders shouldn't be able to access any tyre throughout the Michelin range at any track, providing that there isn't a good reason why not, such as a safety concern is publicly released beforehand, so as to show total transparency and honesty to riders, teams and fans.
 
Did any Michelin fronts explode buddy?
I thought Lorenzo was happy with the rear tyres and the early fronts, which have since been replaced with hard carcass types.
I thought it was the rear tyres that exploded like the one on Scottys Ducati.
Anyhow, in a series at this level its criminal that riders shouldn't be able to access any tyre throughout the Michelin range at any track, providing that there isn't a good reason why not, such as a safety concern is publicly released beforehand, so as to show total transparency and honesty to riders, teams and fans.

Sure. My point was that Dorna and Michelin are more than capable of screwing things up independently of any Rossi-related motivations, which of course in no way precludes them having Rossi-related motivations as well.

Your general theme I of course agree with, and is something I have been saying since the control tyre was mooted in 2008, that tyres should be available to suit a wide range of riding styles and bike designs, and as you say at least making the tyres that actually do exist even under the current restricted regimen available would be a start.
 
Sure. My point was that Dorna and Michelin are more than capable of screwing things up independently of any Rossi-related motivations, which of course in no way precludes them having Rossi-related motivations as well.

Your general theme I of course agree with, and is something I have been saying since the control tyre was mooted in 2008, that tyres should be available to suit a wide range of riding styles and bike designs, and as you say at least making the tyres that actually do exist even under the current restricted regimen available would be a start.

This would be great I'm not suggesting that every rider gets SNS type tyres but it would be good if there was tyres that suited corner speed guys and another one that suited the hard brakers. Im not sure it's possible but it would be fantastic. Or multiple tyre suppliers with each manufacturing being forced to supply the same tyres to every rider. The tyre war had its flaws as does the control tyre and something in the middle would probably work the best.
 
Just for you :p or if I'm being honest me haha. Could not find a recent Rossi one at all :spin:

And yes... I know I'm going to cop flack for a useless post but could not care :giggle: ......
Not useless. I didn't realize that Dani was so cute. I suppose for many closet queens it is an uncomfortable situation. F'em if they can't take a bulge in someone's shorts. :cool:
....... This is what we should be getting from MM/VR, but we don't because VR is a proper .... who doesn't actually want to race lest the deck is stacked in his favor........
I have told my significant other that you have issues and that "no, this is not a .... site nor misogyny center". Perhaps there is a secret desire concerning Rossi that you need share with the racing fan community so that we can understand the necessity for such descriptive language. Oh, and what the hell is an improper ....?
 
I have told my significant other that you have issues and that "no, this is not a .... site nor misogyny center". Perhaps there is a secret desire concerning Rossi that you need share with the racing fan community so that we can understand the necessity for such descriptive language. Oh, and what the hell is an improper ....?

Discussing this forum with your significant other? That's pretty ballsy.
 
Caroline is not going to like this. Bad news for us she got engaged to the other Barry guy over the weekend.

Au contraire ......... Caroline will love it .......

Caroline is "bi" too ......

yes ....... she too loves both BMX and MTB


either that or i have come out of the gear closet cos i hear that Caroline is getting hitched :eek:


all those subliminal messages i have been sending her via my Caroline cupee doll ......

Tarry with Barry
no not Gary .... Barry
marry Barry
Barry Barry Barry ......

and they get deflected to the wrong Barry .......
 
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Can't escape cb68 hey.

I race/follow bmx as well as motorcycles. Not a cb fan though
 
This would be great I'm not suggesting that every rider gets SNS type tyres but it would be good if there was tyres that suited corner speed guys and another one that suited the hard brakers. Im not sure it's possible but it would be fantastic. Or multiple tyre suppliers with each manufacturing being forced to supply the same tyres to every rider. The tyre war had its flaws as does the control tyre and something in the middle would probably work the best.


Since day 1 I have also been an opponent of the control tyre type of situation

As for SNS, I have absolutely no issue with them and have said many times that if a tyre manufacturer wishes to make tyres that are suited to a given rider and/or that rider's style, than all power to them.

BUT, I have also said just as many times that where that same manufacturer cannot make a sufficient number of those tyres thus that others cannot get those same tyres should they wish, than that specification tyre should be removed from allocation until sufficient numbers exist to supply all who want the tyre.

This way, whilst the tyre may be made with rider A in mind, if riders X, Y and Z want access to that same specification tyre than they must be provided that tyre (it actually is similar to the CRT concept but with tyres). As a means to try to lessen the risk of conspiracy (ie. where a manufacturer says the tyre is the same but in fact is not and only Rider A hast he good stuff), all tyres from all manufacturers are provided to a central location for allocation based on the rider preferences and requests.

IMO, but sort out the tyre issue and we will again have some good racing by allowing riders to ride to their potential rather than that of the tyres that may be unsuitable for them. Give them what they want in terms of tyres and may the best person/combination of the day win.
 
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Can't escape cb68 hey.

I race/follow bmx as well as motorcycles. Not a cb fan though

Aaron is usually a mans name ...... are you not a man ......... all men must love CB .....

unless ....... oh Johnny, i may have some competition for your affections here.

......... it just got even gayer Johnny!;)




ps ....... wash your mouth out with soap Aaron!
 
I'm male for sure. Haha.

I sent her some pedals to try for bmx around 2010. We couldn't afford to sponsor her then, fielding a full roster nrs road team cost less :). Had only won a 4x or something wc back then too.

What time do they get on the track? Looking through Instagram and saw Rossi waving his hand again at someone on a suzuki. Must be old footage I think, was An Indo or Philippines account So couldn't read the comments
 
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Rossi's helmet design for the weekend
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Someone posted on Facebook, "Hmm, not the first time that Uccio's featured on Rossi's helmet" [emoji1][emoji1][emoji1]
 
Andrea Iannone has said it is “difficult to understand” the decision that denied him the chance to compete any further at Misano after the circuit doctor said ruled him out of the remainder of the race weekend on Saturday morning.

The Italian fractured his D3 vertebrae in a fast fall early into FP1, and there was some subsequent confusion as Dorna's MotoGP medical director Doctor Angel Charte felt Iannone could continue, only for the circuit doctor to intervene.

That same circuit doctor has advised Iannone to follow a 25-day recovery period that involves total rest. While acknowledging he will not be fully fit, Iannone intends to ride at Aragon in just under two weeks.

“I'm very disappointed. It's my home race. It's my last race at an Italian track, with an Italian bike in front of my people. For me this was a very important weekend and I expected a lot. The week before Silverstone we tested here and the impression was very good.

“In the end I decide for me, but not at 100 percent. The last opinion is from the doctor. Yesterday he declared me completely unfit but then when I arrive back at the circuit from Cesena they change their opinion. They said I was fit but to be reviewed.

“This morning at nine o'clock I come to the medical centre. After a 'Good morning' I said 'I'm ready for this practice.' But they said, 'No, you're not fit. Thank you very much!' I don't know why this all changed. It is difficult to understand this.

“The doctor from Misano only decides [on my fitness] for [the] Misano [race weekend]. But he said 25 days to relax. For me it's important to relax but I'll try my best to ride in Aragon. I think I won't be 100 percent recovered but I think I have a good possibility to arrive before the race, because it's very important for me.”

Explaining the confusion that surrounded Iannone's condition on Friday, he insisted on thanking Doctor Charte, who had supported him throughout the process.

“I think Charte is a very big man. He support me from the beginning and had a good point of view. He organised everything for me. When I arrive in Cesena I was a little surprised because the news coming out was 'Iannone is not fit.'

“When I came back I discussed with Charte. He explained to me that the doctor from the circuit decided. Charte wanted to check me. After this situation the doctor from Misano changed his opinion and said I was fit to be reviewed.

“In a way I'm responsible because this is my work. He said 'No, you don't have a condition to continue. I declare you unfit.' Normally the rider has a check up but I just talked to him. I understand it's difficult. For sure it's dangerous.”

MotoGP News - San Marino: Iannone: 25 days recovery, but I?ll try at Aragon

Sounds like doctor miscommunication about him being fit. It didn't make sense. 25 day recovery time. My guess is we see Pirro riding at Aragon in 2 weeks.
 
Au contraire ......... Caroline will love it .......

Caroline is "bi" too ......

yes ....... she too loves both BMX and MTB


either that or i have come out of the gear closet cos i hear that Caroline is getting hitched :eek:


all those subliminal messages i have been sending her via my Caroline cupee doll ......

Tarry with Barry
no not Gary .... Barry
marry Barry
Barry Barry Barry ......

and they get deflected to the wrong Barry .......

Well B she won the 4x worlds yesterday in Italy after the dismal Olympics. You know I can just relay the message for you.

Can't escape cb68 hey.

I race/follow bmx as well as motorcycles. Not a cb fan though

What class do you race my dude?
 
Sounds like doctor miscommunication about him being fit. It didn't make sense. 25 day recovery time. My guess is we see Pirro riding at Aragon in 2 weeks.

They haven't really revealed the nature of the fracture. If it was some minor chip not involving the structural integrity of the vertebra he might not be risking much but would still likely be limited by severe pain. If it is an in way significant spinal fracture in terms of structural integrity he would need rather more than 25 days to heal.
 

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