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Theo · Jun 16, 2019

To me it looked like a crash waiting to happen. Lorenzo in a bit hot, Dovi standing up to avoid Marquez, Vinales the sandwich filling and what was Rossi doing he was way to hot into the corner thats why he crashed rubbling over the Honda, at normal speed he'd have avoided it.
I think that turn 10 needs correcting its downhill off camber and tight at the beginning.
Lots of crashes this weekend, lets hope it eases off a bit.

imunderandoverit · Jun 16, 2019

Keshav said:
Correct me if I'm wrong (yes . . . it's happened before) but isn't the Honda a V-4 and the Ducati L-4? My understanding is the L-shape is what's held the Ducati back since forever because it makes it so freakin' hard to figure out the right place for the weight to rest and also it's made it the wheelbase over long being the chief reason why it doesn't turn as well as the Yamaha and Suzuki.

As to Lorenzo - aside from the obvious reasons, his crash bummed me out because, while I'm not crazy about him as a human,
I admire the .... out of him as a rider, and my eyes were out of my head this morning seeing him up front, in 4th position
and pushing toward the front - with his new seat and new tank. I want to believe in miracles, and besides how great would it
be to have him up at the front for the rest of the season?

I'm not wishing any DNFs on Marquez for the sake of keeping the championship interesting . . . but I'm not thinking
it wouldn't help. Having said that - I've probably ruled out a jinx.

Hopefully him and maverick can get their ..... up there and mix thing up a bit. Would be interesting. This is far from over, even tho marc has a huge lead.

Holypuck · Jun 17, 2019

Keshav said:
Correct me if I'm wrong (yes . . . it's happened before) but isn't the Honda a V-4 and the Ducati L-4? My understanding is the L-shape is what's held the Ducati back since forever because it makes it so freakin' hard to figure out the right place for the weight to rest and also it's made it the wheelbase over long being the chief reason why it doesn't turn as well as the Yamaha and Suzuki.

As to Lorenzo - aside from the obvious reasons, his crash bummed me out because, while I'm not crazy about him as a human,
I admire the .... out of him as a rider, and my eyes were out of my head this morning seeing him up front, in 4th position
and pushing toward the front - with his new seat and new tank. I want to believe in miracles, and besides how great would it
be to have him up at the front for the rest of the season?

I'm not wishing any DNFs on Marquez for the sake of keeping the championship interesting . . . but I'm not thinking
it wouldn't help. Having said that - I've probably ruled out a jinx.

Both Honda and Ducati are V-4. Yamaha and Suzuki are L-4.

Barbedwirebikerr · Jun 17, 2019

Holypuck said:
Both Honda and Ducati are V-4. Yamaha and Suzuki are L-4.

:spin::spin:

imunderandoverit · Jun 17, 2019

everyone is using v4's but ducati and suzuki. They are on L4's.

BarryMachine · Jun 17, 2019

WTF!!!??? When did yam change from an inline 4 !!???

Holypuck · Jun 17, 2019

imunderandoverit said:
everyone is using v4's but ducati and suzuki. They are on L4's.

Ducati is V-4, Yamaha is L-4.

Holypuck · Jun 17, 2019

BarryMachine said:
WTF!!!??? When did yam change from an inline 4 !!???

they haven't

AJV80 · Jun 17, 2019

Holypuck said:
Ducati is V-4.

Yeah it is, a 90 degree V4 which they refer to as an L4 because its 90 degree. which is confusing some with Yamaha and Suzuki having inline 4 / L4 comment. I knew what you meant, same same but different

Barbedwirebikerr · Jun 17, 2019

Holypuck said:
Ducati is V-4, Yamaha is L-4.

AJV80 said:
Yeah it is, a 90 degree V4 which they refer to as an L4 because its 90 degree. which is confusing some with Yamaha and Suzuki having inline 4 / L4 comment. I knew what you meant, same same but different

Yamaha run an inline 4. Maybe confusion with Honda and Ducati, though both are v4 regardless of the angle the engine hangs.

AJV80 · Jun 17, 2019

Barbedwirebikerr said:
Yamaha run an inline 4. Maybe confusion with Honda and Ducati, though both are v4 regardless of the angle the engine hangs.

Sounds it.

I always thought of the 90 degree/ L twin thing as something Ducatistas would say to distinguish their bikes as being oh so special whilst they are parked at the local cafe.

Holypuck · Jun 17, 2019

Barbedwirebikerr said:
Yamaha run an inline 4. Maybe confusion with Honda and Ducati, though both are v4 regardless of the angle the engine hangs.

Doesn't L-4 mean inline 4?

Genuine question, I may have messed up my acronyms knowledge

AJV80 · Jun 17, 2019

Holypuck said:
Doesn't L-4 mean inline 4?

Genuine question, I may have messed up my acronyms knowledge

Yeah L4 is inline 4, 'Longitudinal'.

Segfault · Jun 17, 2019

Lorenzo back to Ducati?

Holypuck · Jun 17, 2019

AJV80 said:
Yeah L4 is inline 4, 'Longitudinal'.

ok. Then I was right.

Yamaha and Suzuki are L4, all the other MotoGP bikes are V4.

AJV80 · Jun 17, 2019

Holypuck said:
ok. Then I was right.

Yamaha and Suzuki are L4, all the other MotoGP bikes are V4.

Yeah you were spot on man.

Keshav's original comment of the Honda being a V4 and the Ducati and 'L4" because its a 90 degree V4 is where the confusion began i think.

Holypuck · Jun 17, 2019

AJV80 said:
Yeah you were spot on man.

Keshav's original comment of the Honda being a V4 and the Ducati and 'L4" because its a 90 degree V4 is where the confusion began i think.

always good to double check my English knowledge tho as I do mess up words and expressions at times

AJV80 · Jun 17, 2019

Holypuck said:
always good to double check my English knowledge tho as I do mess up words and expressions at times

Your english is better than most people who speak it as their first language in Australia. Probably including mine, if you knew how much i relied spellcheck these days.

Holypuck · Jun 17, 2019

AJV80 said:
Your english is better than most people who speak it as their first language in Australia. Probably including mine, if you knew how much i relied spellcheck these days.

haha I doubt that, but cheers mate :drinks:

Keshav · Jun 17, 2019

AJV80 said:
Sounds it.

I always thought of the 90 degree/ L twin thing as something Ducatistas would say to distinguish their bikes as being oh so special whilst they are parked at the local cafe.

Interesting. For years I've seen the Ducati engine referred to in the press as a L-4 and with my limited tech knowledge - understood that entailed the engine having ungainly dimensions that were at the heart of it's handling issues.

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