assen, round 7..... the race!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Jun 28 2009, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i agree coz i have it too...when i get really stressed, that when all the .... happens


yes its hell and im sorry that you get it at times to... i even went to the hospital in the early hours one night... i couldnt sleep cos my heart was pounding and felt like i was being suffocated.

i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Jun 28 2009, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yes its hell and im sorry that you get it at times to... i even went to the hospital in the early hours one night... i couldnt sleep cos my heart was pounding and felt like i was being suffocated.

i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy.

ahaha, yeah, i know that one!

my bow to The Master

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ Jun 27 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The world standing PDF just isn't up to date. Elias was penalized 20 sec, so those who finished just behind them will all get an extra point when it is updated. The first page is correct.

My mistake then. Still MotoGP fix the bloody PDF data please.

Very impressive form by Rossi and an incredible milestone to reach 100 wins. Solid ride by Lorenzo.
Repsol Honda are really struggling............now a 3 horse race for the championship, and the way Stoner is going, maybe a 2 horse race.

What the hell is wrong with Stoner?? Jazcat could be on the money as he seems worse on race day.

I think he puts too much pressure on himself and needs to try to "Lighten up a bit". I thought it was poor form not to attend the post race interviews as it was significant for Rossi, and Stoners absence took a bit away from that. Maybe he was that bad, but if not , he has some explaining to do. His behaviour at Laguna seca last year lost a lot of aussie fans. Maybe I,m being harsh but clearly there is something not quite right in Caseys head. I think he is pure genius as a rider, but is maybe losing balance in his life. We all need him back on track to have a more interesting 3 way title fight, otherwise the championship becomes a Yamaha benefit. Does anybody want that?

ps: And the roll-out history of Rossis wins was pure genius!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Jun 27 2009, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ps: And the roll-out history of Rossis wins was pure genius!

I don´t have a 25 meter banner... 100th...

2009 MotoGP Assen
2009 MotoGP Circuit de Catalunya
2009 MotoGP Jerez
2008 MotoGP Automotodrom Brno
2008 MotoGP Indianapolis
2008 MotoGP Laguna Seca
2008 MotoGP Le Mans
2008 MotoGP Misano
2008 MotoGP Motegi
2008 MotoGP Mugello
2008 MotoGP Sepang Circuit
2008 MotoGP Shanghai Circuit
2007 MotoGP Assen
2007 MotoGP Estoril
2007 MotoGP Jerez
2007 MotoGP Mugello
2006 MotoGP Circuit de Catalunya
2006 MotoGP Losail Circuit
2006 MotoGP Mugello
2006 MotoGP Sachsenring
2006 MotoGP Sepang Circuit
2005 MotoGP Assen
2005 MotoGP Automotodrom Brno
2005 MotoGP Circuit de Catalunya
2005 MotoGP Donington Park
2005 MotoGP Jerez
2005 MotoGP Le Mans
2005 MotoGP Losail Circuit
2005 MotoGP Mugello
2005 MotoGP Phillip Island
2005 MotoGP Sachsenring
2005 MotoGP Shanghai Circuit
2004 MotoGP Assen
2004 MotoGP Circuit de Catalunya
2004 MotoGP Comunitat Valenciana
2004 MotoGP Donington Park
2004 MotoGP Estoril
2004 MotoGP Mugello
2004 MotoGP Phakisa Freeway
2004 MotoGP Phillip Island
2004 MotoGP Sepang Circuit
2003 MotoGP Automotodrom Brno
2003 MotoGP Comunitat Valenciana
2003 MotoGP Estoril
2003 MotoGP Jerez
2003 MotoGP Mugello
2003 MotoGP Nelson Piquet
2003 MotoGP Phillip Island
2003 MotoGP Sepang Circuit
2003 MotoGP Suzuka
2002 500cc Assen
2002 500cc Circuit de Catalunya
2002 500cc Donington Park
2002 500cc Estoril
2002 500cc Jerez
2002 500cc Le Mans
2002 500cc Mugello
2002 500cc Nelson Piquet
2002 500cc Phillip Island
2002 500cc Sachsenring
2002 500cc Suzuka
2001 500cc Automotodrom Brno
2001 500cc Circuit de Catalunya
2001 500cc Donington Park
2001 500cc Estoril
2001 500cc Jerez
2001 500cc Motegi
2001 500cc Nelson Piquet
2001 500cc Phakisa Freeway
2001 500cc Phillip Island
2001 500cc Sepang Circuit
2001 500cc Suzuka
2000 500cc Donington Park
2000 500cc Nelson Piquet
1999 250cc Automotodrom Brno
1999 250cc Circuit de Catalunya
1999 250cc Donington Park
1999 250cc Jerez
1999 250cc Mugello
1999 250cc Nelson Piquet
1999 250cc Phakisa Freeway
1999 250cc Phillip Island
1999 250cc Sachsenring
1998 250cc Assen
1998 250cc Circuit de Catalunya
1998 250cc Imola
1998 250cc Oscar A. Galvez
1998 250cc Phillip Island
1997 125cc Assen
1997 125cc Circuit de Catalunya
1997 125cc Donington Park
1997 125cc Imola
1997 125cc Jerez
1997 125cc Mugello
1997 125cc Nelson Piquet
1997 125cc Nurburgring
1997 125cc Paul Ricard
1997 125cc Sentul
1997 125cc Shah Alam
1996 125cc Automotodrom Brno

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Jun 28 2009, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We all need him back on track to have a more interesting 3 way title fight, otherwise the championship becomes a Yamaha benefit. Does anybody want that?

+1

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Jun 28 2009, 03:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Very impressive form by Rossi and an incredible milestone to reach 100 wins. Solid ride by Lorenzo.
Repsol Honda are really struggling............now a 3 horse race for the championship, and the way Stoner is going, maybe a 2 horse race.

What the hell is wrong with Stoner?? Jazcat could be on the money as he seems worse on race day.

I think he puts too much pressure on himself and needs to try to "Lighten up a bit". I thought it was poor form not to attend the post race interviews as it was significant for Rossi, and Stoners absence took a bit away from that. Maybe he was that bad, but if not , he has some explaining to do. His behaviour at Laguna seca last year lost a lot of aussie fans. Maybe I,m being harsh but clearly there is something not quite right in Caseys head. I think he is pure genius as a rider, but is maybe losing balance in his life. We all need him back on track to have a more interesting 3 way title fight, otherwise the championship becomes a Yamaha benefit. Does anybody want that?


if it is anxiety him ranting on friday would of made things alot worse for race day and also the nerves as they line up on the grid wont help.... anxiety is a very sensative issue and can be triggered by the smallest things even worrying about the anxiety coming back, somedamnwriter will tell you it can be hell..... i remember stoner saying he couldnt sleep well as it can make you tired it can also make you restless.

stoner has alot on his shoulders as he alone is the fighting force at ducati ATM, also knowing that if he fails to perform ducati are nowhere in the championship. this isnt a joke but if he does have it then i think he may need some therapy as he really needs to chill out abit cos his rants wont help at all.

i really hope they can sort things out for him as a 2 way fight will not be good.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Jun 28 2009, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I thought it was poor form not to attend the post race interviews as it was significant for Rossi, and Stoners absence took a bit away from that. Maybe he was that bad, but if not , he has some explaining to do. His behaviour at Laguna seca last year lost a lot of aussie fans. Maybe I,m being harsh but clearly there is something not quite right in Caseys head. I think he is pure genius as a rider, but is maybe losing balance in his life. We all need him back on track to have a more interesting 3 way title fight, otherwise the championship becomes a Yamaha benefit. Does anybody want that?
This post is completely unfair.

One cannot proclaim that Stoner's behaviour should or shouldn't be condemned without knowing his medical condition. Besides Doctor Costa and Casey Stoner, no-one has that information.

Therefore, we really aren't in a position to comment on the propriety of his actions.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Electric Mofo @ Jun 27 2009, 08:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh and Lol at Honda

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jun 27 2009, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>HRC must be going mad.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Jun 27 2009, 08:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>has honda hit rock bottom yet? man they suck this year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jun 27 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How interesting that both Hondas would go down on Rossi's 100th.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Jun 27 2009, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Repsol Honda are really struggling.

A whole season since last time Honda won, 18 Races since Catalunya 2008!
(by the way, I love my CBR600, a bit old though).

And so it surfaces:

"The 23-year-old needed immediate medical attention after the podium ceremony with Stoner on the brink of collapsing. He was placed on a drip in the circuit medical centre as the 2007 world champion looked severely weakened and pale immediately after the 26-lap race."

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sp...y-stoner-again/

So Bunyip, do you still think Casey was wrong not to attend the interview? I think this reiterates my point rather conveniently: It's best not to make any judgment without having the necessary information at your disposal.

seriously, what happened to Stoner?
seems he suffered some illness ( anxietas? ). I feel sorry for him..honest (and that's comes from a Rossi's fan ).
i hope he gets better soon.

Congrants to the gospel 100 ......' wins and counting

..... race really good scrap mid pack, too bad for the Honda boys and what a shame for Kallio

Hope Casey can make it state side, Laguna next week cant wait

wow lots of witch doctors on this forum? cant someone suffer from the flu? damm if you ever had the flu and had to race in the most demanding of sports, oh wait no you never have so yous dont know ........

RCV600, I,ve been a fan of Caseys talents, but things aren,t adding up for it all being due to an uncomplicated medical complaint. I think his openness whilst possibly refreshing ,is setting him up as a target for Rossi fanboys (Roger et al). His comments last week that Rossis last corner pass on Lorenzo was nothing special and a mistake by Lorenzo was unhelpful at best , and tactless at worst. He is encouraging or exacerbating the us versus them pressure. With hindsight he probably genuinely was too sick to attend the press conference, but it is at odds with somebody who was well enough to rant at riders who got in his way during qualifying. I DO think his illness is genuine, but I believe there is a strong chance that it is psychologically based. Think about it- he has been ok midweek but succumbs to the pressure on race day. I am all too familiar with glandular fever and chronic fatigue, having suffered both myself, so I can sympathise with him, but I also know that chronic fatigue usually has a stress-based component too. I am feeling that he is bringing some of the stress on himself with negative comments that he makes- like after Laguna seca last year . He has been world champion before and expects( demands) that he can be again, and hence is putting unnecessary pressure on himself.

I suppose I am trying the "devils advocate" approach to his current condition. As an Aussie I support him as our leading contender, but also . as with Leyton Hewitt, too much bad behaviour can test his fan base. I am disturbed by his current predicament and hope he finds a way out. I think he needs to retrain his thoughts before the body will respond. Perhaps taking sole responsibility for ducatis success is taking its toll. I am sympathetic to his predicament but perhaps it is partly self induced (unnecessary negative thoughts).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Jun 28 2009, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>RCV600, I,ve been a fan of Caseys talents, but things aren,t adding up for it all being due to an uncomplicated medical complaint. I think his openness whilst possibly refreshing ,is setting him up as a target for Rossi fanboys (Roger et al). His comments last week that Rossis last corner pass on Lorenzo was nothing special and a mistake by Lorenzo was unhelpful at best , and tactless at worst. He is encouraging or exacerbating the us versus them pressure. With hindsight he probably genuinely was too sick to attend the press conference, but it is at odds with somebody who was well enough to rant at riders who got in his way during qualifying. I DO think his illness is genuine, but I believe there is a strong chance that it is psychologically based. Think about it- he has been ok midweek but succumbs to the pressure on race day. I am all too familiar with glandular fever and chronic fatigue, having suffered both myself, so I can sympathise with him, but I also know that chronic fatigue usually has a stress-based component too. I am feeling that he is bringing some of the stress on himself with negative comments that he makes- like after Laguna seca last year . He has been world champion before and expects( demands) that he can be again, and hence is putting unnecessary pressure on himself.


As an FYI, Lorenzo admitted he made a mistake in a press interview earlier this week so IMO the comments from CS were not bitter or ill advised but opinion and/or fact.

As for his condition, who knows but the sport is an incredibly taxing one physically and mentally and I would suspect moreso when you are the sole rider for you manufacturer who is considered a chance. The pressure placed upon him by media, his team, himeslf and the fanboy haters would be immense and only getting worse as he fights with things.

Much like Freddie Spencer in a way, a mercurial genius with that 'inner demon' issue, but I do hope not as this championship needs Stoner.


As for the race, no real comment other than that it was no different to a number of others where a rider did a runner and battles ensued further down the field.



Congrats to VR on his 100th and I suspect that there will be many more.







Garry

Good stuff looks like hes on for Laguna

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/assen+s...ace+reflects+on

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Jun 28 2009, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As an FYI, Lorenzo admitted he made a mistake in a press interview earlier this week so IMO the comments from CS were not bitter or ill advised but opinion and/or fact.

As for his condition, who knows but the sport is an incredibly taxing one physically and mentally and I would suspect moreso when you are the sole rider for you manufacturer who is considered a chance. The pressure placed upon him by media, his team, himeslf and the fanboy haters would be immense and only getting worse as he fights with things.

Much like Freddie Spencer in a way, a mercurial genius with that 'inner demon' issue, but I do hope not as this championship needs Stoner.


As for the race, no real comment other than that it was no different to a number of others where a rider did a runner and battles ensued further down the field.



Congrats to VR on his 100th and I suspect that there will be many more.







Garry

Hey Gaz lets not forget ye fanboys either, I'm sure Casey wants to win for his fans and country too and that is added pressure also

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Jun 28 2009, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hey Gaz lets not forget ye fanboys either, I'm sure Casey wants to win for his fans and country too and that is added pressure also


Absolutely and I meant to include those fanboys in teh comment.

But I should also clarify that IMO he places the most pressure on himself as most highly strung athletes are prone to do, but I do hope that the illness is a short term issue an d he can return to full health. What I do find sad however is that people in all forums will just again take the standard negative approach as has been the way for some (not attacking one individual or forum over another) when he was again genuinely ill.






Garry