<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Jul 1 2009, 03:08 AM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well call me a ...... as I tend to believe the argument that ALL, yes ALL riders are utilising TC to it's extreme or within an ounce of it's extreme, just that the way the TC is working for Ducati may differ from that of Yamaha.
There are some interesting arguments currently being run in a few places about the different TC systems and to paraphrase it is being said that the Ducati system is used to basically cut power when the throttle is applied thus popping and farting. The Yamaha system is said to offer a predictive TC whereby the system knows where the bike is on the circuit and will adjust the amount of fuel provided based upon bike location, lean angle, throttle applied etc etc. I do not know nor profess to understand the technicalities of it but these guys all want the advantage so given that TC provides it they will all use it.
Just because one bike makes the popping and farting noises associated with TC does not mean that others are not using it as much, it just means that the use of it is obvious to teh hearing
Garry
Go there, see and hear for your self.
True, Yamaha doesn't use the system the same way, non the less you can hear the occational popping from the yamahas through a turn like steckewall as well, starting with JT, through Edwards and Lorenzo to Rossi you heard less and less popping. Rossi's bike usually didn't pop at all. I'm not suggesting he doesn't use TC just that the system operate withing the limited aera before it starts cutting the igninition as it does quite a bit with the rest.
Then you got the Suzukies, they seem to operate very much in the same way as the ducati and then Honda somewhere in between ducati and Yamaha.
Sitting at steckenwall I bet I could have picked out stoner with a blind fold on from the way the bike made noise . He was distinctivly different from any other Ducati. This was not just me but everyone sitting there including a couple of Ducatistas.
Besides, watching Stoner around the track and how he just pin the throttle wide open like no one else does kind of gave us the same impression.
So, as for now I would disagree in your impression that everyone use it too the extreeme.
I've got no illution that the second it gets better than man all the time and in every way then all of them will use it very much in the same way. No one can afford to loose that advantage, but as for now there are some very distinctive differences.
BTW, those that suggest Yamaha in any significant way use predictive regulation based on where the bike is on the track are full of BS. The actual TC will allways be regulated based on inputs. Today mainly by wheel speed sensors, engine rpm changes bla bla bla. the point is, using the track position could not pick up variables like tire wear, slippery surface.... what position can do is to change the mapping giving the rider the optimum (not maximum) torque curve for the right gear and the right rpm for that turn, it probably also adjust the parameters for the TC regulation depending on track position but these few things are hardly what one would call predictive and position can never replace the other inputs to the TC.
