2024 Gran Premio Estrella Galicia 0,0 de España - Circuit Jerez

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Guess the track was still damp, but man what a bad look watching all these riders crash out.

Marc should have had this in the bag but that's the way it goes.

Surprised Binder escaped from that Bagnaia threesome without any penalty.
 
Pol Espargaró theorized on Spanish TV that although the water patches seemed to be drying visually, perhaps in practice they weren't that dry, and that caught the riders by surprise, who could spot said patches better early in the race but became blind as the race progressed.

As for the Binder-Pecco incident, I would've penalized Brad on the spot but now watching the aerial view I'm not so sure anymore, looked like Pecco wasn't entirely hugging the interior of the turn and Brad saw a gap. Unfortunate for the Italian.
 
Insane race.
The 3 rider tangle up was hard to put blame on. I do think Brad went for a spot that wasn’t there but a racing incident IMO.
Seems like there was still wet patches all over the place. Shame for Marquez to crash out like that but to hunt down Martin on a year old bike shows he still has it.
Pedro second in the championship now. Kind of crazy.
 
Well, no one can call that boring.

Bagnaia must be wearing a kick me sign or something. Martin used him as a back stop at COTA (probably a fair move), and Binder just hit him at full ramming speed.

A lot of desperation for a half points race! Sad to see Marquez crash out of the lead again. Happened when he got on the throttle and the bike actually had grip. Marc claims he’s fully adjusted but that looked 100% like a Honda-Ducati transition crash. The Honda was always loose when Marc was riding. If the ride height did something unexpected, maybe the crash was not a learning curve.
 
Oof, turn 5. A track I ride on occasionally is known for oozing water up through cracks in the track after a rain. Rains, track dries, water runs underground to the lower points in the circuit and comes up through the cracks. Maybe that happened here?
 
Also, I see Marc has retained his full bag of tricks from Honda: wicked speed and barging other riders from his earlier years, and crashing out of races from his later years. I was starting to pull for him, but that hit on Mir takes me right back. He still has the speed, but he needs to calm down if he wants points.

Martin riding like a champ, being conservative and stretching his lead.
 
Its not a track that dries well, but its also not a track the sees a lot of rain. However the spots where the water weeps through the track are known, perhaps they should figure out a way to identify those areas to the riders a little better. I do remember them delaying a start of a race at COTA one year because of a weep spot.

It was a frustrating race of survival, if not for the wet spots the race would have finished different. M. Marquez was the fastest rider on track, Binder at times seemed fast but lacked consistency (had a great start), Alex Marquez was running his best race of the season so far.
 
Once again Marquez crashes out from the lead after hitting P1, now only 2 laps.

People trying to protect his crash by repeating "damp patch" "damp patch" but the fact is Jorge Martin followed the same trajectory, rode over the same dark patch and did not crash, unlike the previous treble crashes from P3 P4 P5.

I would repeat, it hard to win again for him, as it requires a bad/good day when factory riders (Martin, Bagnaiia, Vinales, Acosta) not performing well. But the real issue is his riding ability going downward.
 
Plot twist

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dogfight said:
Once again Marquez crashes out from the lead after hitting P1, now only 2 laps.

People trying to protect his crash by repeating "damp patch" "damp patch" but the fact is Jorge Martin followed the same trajectory, rode over the same dark patch and did not crash, unlike the previous treble crashes from P3 P4 P5.

I would repeat, it hard to win again for him, as it requires a bad/good day when factory riders (Martin, Bagnaiia, Vinales, Acosta) not performing well. But the real issue is his riding ability going downward.
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His riding ability is going downward?

DUMB.

He was the fastest rider on the circuit today till the frontend washout. He was in the lead at COTA till a front brake failure ended it. He got taken out by Bagnaia in Portimao. He's had a run of ...... luck lately which in no way speaks to a trend downward in riding ability. Sure Martin didn't go down by last I looked, wasn't it something like 12 riders went down?

If anything, I would argue the race should have been red flagged after the triple crash off the track because it was obvious something was wrong.
 
dogfight said:
Once again Marquez crashes out from the lead after hitting P1, now only 2 laps.

People trying to protect his crash by repeating "damp patch" "damp patch" but the fact is Jorge Martin followed the same trajectory, rode over the same dark patch and did not crash, unlike the previous treble crashes from P3 P4 P5.

I would repeat, it hard to win again for him, as it requires a bad/good day when factory riders (Martin, Bagnaiia, Vinales, Acosta) not performing well. But the real issue is his riding ability going downward.
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Or . . . And hear me out, just maybe he crashed (whether due to unpredictable side-winds or damp spots) like half the field. Because if we follow your thinking, then half the field crashed today because their talent too is on a downward trajectory all, coincendentally, on the same day.

If your entire agenda is to pop in now and then to spout irrational hate for Marquez, you should know, that .... has been done to death. Boring.
 
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I have seen so many riders going fast then crashes out or slow down at the end of the races as they cannot correctly assess the situation. The fact is any rider can be fast some laps then "boom".


JPSLotus said:
His riding ability is going downward?

DUMB.

He was the fastest rider on the circuit today till the frontend washout. He was in the lead at COTA till a front brake failure ended it. He got taken out by Bagnaia in Portimao. He's had a run of ...... luck lately which in no way speaks to a trend downward in riding ability. Sure Martin didn't go down by last I looked, wasn't it something like 12 riders went down?

If anything, I would argue the race should have been red flagged after the triple crash off the track because it was obvious something was wrong.
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Race day pop up, is it correct or not? I have works to do, you may know it, I guess.

Marquez looks like Rossi last 2 or 3 years, crashing out in some very disappointed situations where they are not used to. The brain may perceive the situation as before, but in reality his reflexes have been deteriorated, and crash is the result.

Keshav said:
Or . . . And hear me out, just maybe he crashed (whether due to unpredictable side-winds or damp spots) like half the field. Because if we follow your thinking, then half the field crashed today because their talent too is on a downward trajectory all, coincendentally, on the same day.

If your entire agenda is to pop in here to spout irrational hate for Marquez, you should know, that .... has been done to death. Boring.
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JPSLotus said:
His riding ability is going downward?

DUMB.

He was the fastest rider on the circuit today till the frontend washout. He was in the lead at COTA till a front brake failure ended it. He got taken out by Bagnaia in Portimao. He's had a run of ...... luck lately which in no way speaks to a trend downward in riding ability. Sure Martin didn't go down by last I looked, wasn't it something like 12 riders went down?

If anything, I would argue the race should have been red flagged after the triple crash off the track because it was obvious something was wrong.
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Absolutely what I was thinking during the race. Race direction was criminally negligent, and let the race finish like that for the sake of the crash gawkers.
 

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