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Martin avoided the patch that Marquez hit by riding closer to apex. Even on tighter line his bike moved a bit.
2024 Gran Premio Estrella Galicia 0,0 de España - Circuit Jerez
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Let's look at the analysis data in MotoGP site:
Lap 6 Marquez tried to push to catch Martin who was consistent at 1:38.3xx. Martin also pushing with 1:38:0xx lap 6, but a losing front mistake on lap 7 lets Marquez takes P1. Next lap Marquez tried to break away from Martin with a 1:38:0xx but crashed out a lap later.
I believe that after the mistake, Martin don't want to push up to 1:38:0xx because it is really dangerous. The comfortable zone for him is 1:38:3xx. And 93 crashes in front of him just confirms that Martin was correct. Marquez unforturnately had no chance to correct the mistake.
Lap 6 Marquez tried to push to catch Martin who was consistent at 1:38.3xx. Martin also pushing with 1:38:0xx lap 6, but a losing front mistake on lap 7 lets Marquez takes P1. Next lap Marquez tried to break away from Martin with a 1:38:0xx but crashed out a lap later.
I believe that after the mistake, Martin don't want to push up to 1:38:0xx because it is really dangerous. The comfortable zone for him is 1:38:3xx. And 93 crashes in front of him just confirms that Martin was correct. Marquez unforturnately had no chance to correct the mistake.
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Martin is gaining control of this championship. Long way to go, and lots of chaos remaining, but Martin has been clean sailing through stormy waters so far. Mav crashing out of 3rd handed Jorge another handful of points. We’ll see what happens tomorrow but a few more rounds like this and he could have a couple of fingers on the trophy.
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This is a world-wide forum and we all make allowances for folks for whom English is not a 2nd language - but that post made zero sense.Boy, this is a racing forum, not English forum
I tend to agree. The damp patch was there most of the race. It could have been weeping water as the race went on, but I’d wager riders were hitting that patch throughout the race.
Marc goes down and “Damp Patch!!!”
I’ll watch the helicopter footage. Maybe no one hit it during the race, but it’s not like it appeared out of nowhere.
I guess the teams, engineers and riders have the data so they can say whatever they want, and no one can challenge, but this looked like a text book Michelin front end push.
These pictures taken at turn 9, where Marquez crashed out and you will see this was a clear mistake from him.
Lap 8, while everything okay, he was pushing 1:38:0xx, he did not ride over the dark patch. Same as Martin.
MM:
JM:
Lap 9:
MM was all over the patch, very wide, => crash:
JM, a little bit wide, not as wide as MM, did not crash, but the bike shaked a little bit, according to "mylexicon".
I tried to find some pictures from another laps, for example, Acosta following by Bez goging at the same turn 9, lap 4. Both managed to avoid that patch, by quite a large distance.
I suspect that at turn 9, the correct racing line is at the right side of "the patch", any wider is basically a mistake, and Marquez has committed that big mistake by carrying to much speed, very wide, rode all over the patch and crashed.
Lap 8, while everything okay, he was pushing 1:38:0xx, he did not ride over the dark patch. Same as Martin.
MM:
JM:
Lap 9:
MM was all over the patch, very wide, => crash:
JM, a little bit wide, not as wide as MM, did not crash, but the bike shaked a little bit, according to "mylexicon".
I tried to find some pictures from another laps, for example, Acosta following by Bez goging at the same turn 9, lap 4. Both managed to avoid that patch, by quite a large distance.
I suspect that at turn 9, the correct racing line is at the right side of "the patch", any wider is basically a mistake, and Marquez has committed that big mistake by carrying to much speed, very wide, rode all over the patch and crashed.
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Haha, boy, I believe that you understand my posts. Try to be nice with people who criticize your favorite rider, not you.
Anyway, focus to racing!
Anyway, focus to racing!
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He lost a wing because of the crash, I wouldn’t be surprised if that impacts braking. He was way too far back to make a lunge,
There was one shot, 3 bikes low side in unison...how could that happen?
Lets go Ucchio!
Sure, losing right front wing will make the bike losing front downforce in left turn => less front brake efficiency.
Today's context. You are so nostalgic . Poor you!
If you want to look back, your favorite rider is still far from Rossi record. Sorry.
. Poor you!If you want to look back, your favorite rider is still far from Rossi record. Sorry
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Another troll, possibly an alt of a past troll. Ignored.
To be fair I was gonna bring this up two weeks ago but I wasn't entirely sure and didn't wanna be an a-hole if he was in fact serious...
...but yeah, Dogfight from Vietnam and Birdbird from Thailand sound kinda similar.
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These childish Rossifarian trolls are so generic, it hardly seems worth the bother to tell one from the other. First it's Bird-Brain, and shortly thereafter, it's Dog-Breath. A month from now, he'll resurface as Lady-Boy from Jakarta.
"Will Martin be able to put up with the pressure? I think this year Martin has everything to win. I think this year he'll get it."
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That crash of 3 riders separately crashing at the same corner, same lap was a strong predictor that the grip had changed. The question is what caused change in grip, water? wind? fluid from a bike?
With so many crashes I don’t see we can read much into which rider(s) to write off due to crashing
Championship wise Martin is showing great consistency
The thing is...I don't have a favorite. Never have. When I watch a race, I want to see a scrap at the front, not one guy riding away, but good back and forth.If you want to look back, your favorite rider is still far from Rossi record. Sorry
Not at all like the cult of personality that you belong to.
