I am obviously with you in terms of the general morality of the episode, but was pointing out that from Yamaha's point of view one of their riders was calling for another to be suspended of his own bat it would seem without talking to them about it, when he was not involved in the incident, and I am not sure with how much knowledge of the incident. If he was in full possession of the facts I would agree he is justified, but it is hard to think of a parallel in any sport which is even nominally a team sport, which doesn't mean there shouldn't be such parallels. If it is a question of only keeping one rider next year, obviously it is completely wrong to punish the rider who complained about the illegal act rather than the perpetrator.
I am obviously with you in terms of the general morality of the episode, but was pointing out that from Yamaha's point of view one of their riders was calling for another to be suspended of his own bat it would seem without talking to them about it, when he was not involved in the incident, and I am not sure with how much knowledge of the incident. If he was in full possession of the facts I would agree he is justified, but it is hard to think of a parallel in any sport which is even nominally a team sport, which doesn't mean there shouldn't be such parallels. If it is a question of only keeping one rider next year, obviously it is completely wrong to punish the rider who complained about the illegal act rather than the perpetrator.
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Your Mom's House
Why instead of an article that supposes to relieve Lorenzo from his duties on account of damaging the team harmony and or brand as you reason, we are not reading an article that Yamaha are so disgusted with Rossi's violation of the sacred trust all rider share on the track, that they are firing Rossi in disgrace?
I will highlight the critical words there that explain why.
That said, aside from Lin Jarvis' comments (which I believe were well spoken in both message and intent) there has been nothing from Yamaha or the sponsors.
That said, aside from Lin Jarvis' comments (which I believe were well spoken in both message and intent) there has been nothing from Yamaha or the sponsors.
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Totally and really from a pure business view can you blame them?
I mean, look at the amount of sheep flocking to the 'save VR' petitions, sites and what not. It shows that VR means money.
I would not even be surprised to see a special edition helmet and additional sponsors for Valencia
I'd have to agree that this article bears no weight in my opinion.
That being said... and ive said this in multiple threads... I was absolutely disgusted over the way JL conducted himself during to press conference by throwing VR under the bus as much as humanly possible.
We all need to remember.. at the end of the day Moto GP is a business, and you can be damn ....... sure that Yamaha profits a hell of a lot more off of VR than JL. If it ever came down to a business decision between JL and VR then I can totally see Yamaha giving the boot to JL.
Now that ive gotten the non-opinionated part of my post out of the way... .... JL!!! Little Prick!!
Oh and if Alex Espagro can learn to stop falling so damn much I think he would be great on the Yamaha!!!
Disgusted by harsh words but not bothered by deliberate on track interference. Nice.
Well said. People always seem to forget that the sport would be tedious as hell if you didn't have people standing up to Rossi and giving him a chance to demonstrate his incredible talent.
I heard commentators saying how Rossi literally saved MotoGP when everyone was watching WSB. I was one of them because WSB was exciting with Edwards and Bayliss battling it out whilst MotoGP was processional. What saved it was the likes of Gibernau, Stoner, Lorenzo etc having the balls to compete against him on track and off and along with a very partisan media that only ever grudgingly gave any 'sugar' to those riders prepared to challenge him.
Were it not for them, Rossi would have won everything and no one would have tuned in because it would have been flat out boring. Gibernau was ridiculed, Stoner was cast as the whiner, Lorenzo as being arrogant and now Marquez as being petulant. And here you have Rossi acting like a self entitled monster who assumes that no one should challenge him and when they do they are conspiring against him and worthy of taking out. And what do you know, everyone else is to blame!
Any one see the pattern?
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Got to hand it to you Jumkie I admire your dogged determination and tenacity when it comes to arguing your case....
Can't say there's anything I disagree with what you say either...
Bottom line Rossi instigated the wrongdoing in EVERY PART of this ugly incident...
From the paranoid judgement call at the Thursday presser....through to the crash with Marquez which was entirely of Rossi's own doing
Lets not forget at the time of the first press conference there was genuine disbelief in the media surrounding Rossis barbs.
After the incredible race at Phillip Island not one person ever mentioned anywhere on the entire internet or reported anywhere else that anyone suspected Marquez was trying to help Lorenzo.
It was only after the initial salvo Rossi fired across Marquez'a bow that it suddenly gained any credence. Now its suddenly fact...if you wear yellow glasses. Mass delusion is alive and kicking.
As far as the "racing incident" goes it was blatantly obvious Rossi pre-meditated that move and then deliberately employed that dangerous and stupid tactic which resulted in a fellow competitor crashing.
There can be no excuses for this behaviour. Any other rider - instant black flag IMO.
Race confection obviously disagree with my assessment and have different criteria for arriving at their decision....economics have trumped ethics and a dangerous precedent has now been set.
Its a shambolic, cynical dollar call. Nothing more.
Can't say there's anything I disagree with what you say either...
Bottom line Rossi instigated the wrongdoing in EVERY PART of this ugly incident...
From the paranoid judgement call at the Thursday presser....through to the crash with Marquez which was entirely of Rossi's own doing
Lets not forget at the time of the first press conference there was genuine disbelief in the media surrounding Rossis barbs.
After the incredible race at Phillip Island not one person ever mentioned anywhere on the entire internet or reported anywhere else that anyone suspected Marquez was trying to help Lorenzo.
It was only after the initial salvo Rossi fired across Marquez'a bow that it suddenly gained any credence. Now its suddenly fact...if you wear yellow glasses. Mass delusion is alive and kicking.
As far as the "racing incident" goes it was blatantly obvious Rossi pre-meditated that move and then deliberately employed that dangerous and stupid tactic which resulted in a fellow competitor crashing.
There can be no excuses for this behaviour. Any other rider - instant black flag IMO.
Race confection obviously disagree with my assessment and have different criteria for arriving at their decision....economics have trumped ethics and a dangerous precedent has now been set.
Its a shambolic, cynical dollar call. Nothing more.
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Thailand
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Thailand
In the post race presser he said he had watched it once but was mainly going by what his team had told him.
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Outback Steakhouse
'Dogged determination' hahaha. That's my favorite line.....
I think Kyle Reese line from The Terminator is more suitable....
Listen, and understand! That juNkie is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
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Pangea
One of my all time fave movies....
Always thought of Jumkie as a rabid chihuahau that thinks its actually a pit bull....dogged determination indeed
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Hurricane, WV
Erm, actually that would be Lossi and Rorenzo San... also, Confucius was Chinese... just saying. [emoji41]
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Hurricane, WV
At this point I would say something about them all looking the same, but that would be a racist, stereotypical and hateful statement, and we all know this site is way above that.. So I will just correct my statement to "Godzilla says".
