Yamaha Rumored to Part Ways with Lorenzo

Keshav said:

Respectfully - rural blues go all the way back to the cotton fields in the days of slavery. R&B grew out of a combination of electrified (Chicago) blues + and Black Gospel. Jazz really was born in New Orleans and New Orleans (Dixieland Sound) grew out of the threads of Cajun street music and the stride piano sounds heard in the whore houses of New Orleans. Everybody from Miles Davis to anyone in Jazz you can name agrees that Jazz has it's origins in New Orleans.

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True dat, Mississippi Delta also played a big part on the blues side: Blind Lemon Jefferson, Son House, Lightning Hopkins, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters (acoustic). Then Muddy waters took it to Chicago for example and went electric. Howlin' Wolf was part of that movement, he was a mean ......: they say he had bad side and a worse side... Lead Belly was around then too I think?

The Blues, call and response form originated in cotton fields and spread to the Black churches, they used a back beat under that, with hand claps on the 2 and 4. They weren't allowed to have drums since, obviously, the were known to be instruments of mass subversion.

In the prisons and railways gangs, they had "work songs" to keep time for their axes or hammers and that form was all about the one and three beats. James Brown grew up hearing that and it's the foundation of funk. Yo, Bootsy! On the one! On the One!

These early forms were recorded by Alan Lomax in the late 30's early 40's and I've got a copy of those. It's amazing to go back in time and listen to that stuff.

Keshav said:

Dude changed the world for bass players everywhere. Absolutely a legend. Don't know about down under - but he's a GOD in USA and Europe.

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For people in the know: absolutely.
Yes, he's definitely my favourite bass player of all time, tragic story though, very sad.

Have you heard the stuff he did with Joanie Mitchell?

Cool Blue said:

In the prisons and railways gangs, they had "work songs" to keep time for their axes or hammers and that form was all about the one and three beats. James Brown grew up hearing that and it's the foundation of funk. Yo, Bootsy! On the one! On the One!

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Nonsense...this is how it really happened -

Arrabbiata1 said:

Nonsense...this is how it really happened -

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Ahhhh! Revisionist mother fuckers! That's it, I'm signing up for the Scientology...

Get a grip

No way Yamaha will cut Jorge if only because there is not anyone currently to replace him with. Teammates are seldom friendly with each other...remember the wall in their garage?

Cool Blue said:

True dat, Mississippi Delta also played a big part on the blues side: Blind Lemon Jefferson, Son House, Lightning Hopkins, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters (acoustic). Then Muddy waters took it to Chicago for example and went electric. Howlin' Wolf was part of that movement, he was a mean ......: they say he had bad side and a worse side... Lead Belly was around then too I think?

The Blues, call and response form originated in cotton fields and spread to the Black churches, they used a back beat under that, with hand claps on the 2 and 4. They weren't allowed to have drums since, obviously, the were known to be instruments of mass subversion.

In the prisons and railways gangs, they had "work songs" to keep time for their axes or hammers and that form was all about the one and three beats. James Brown grew up hearing that and it's the foundation of funk. Yo, Bootsy! On the one! On the One!

These early forms were recorded by Alan Lomax in the late 30's early 40's and I've got a copy of those. It's amazing to go back in time and listen to that stuff.

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Yep. That's why I included the video of the Gandy Dancers.

Re: Lomax recordings - grew up on that stuff. Was lucky enough to grow up a in a community of folks who were super progressives and very hip to black music. My first "inherited" LP is Mose Allison's 7th Son and more than 50 years later - I still have it. Got my first guitar at age 9. I was living on a farm collective/school and the girl across the hall from me used to hitch-hike every weekend two hours into NYC to take lessons from Reverend Gary Davis Jr. and when she came back on Sunday night - she would teach me everything he'd taught her. Soaked it up like a sponge.

Leadbelly died a few years before I was born - so never got to see him. But manage to see Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters (multiple times), Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee and lots of the greats before I turned 20.

Yeah... too bad about Jaco. What a waste. Yes - had an LP of his stuff with Joni. Lost it.

Forgot to mention re: origins of Jazz. Big influence were the "Second Line" parades for New Orleans funerals where a lot of great players made their mark before starting bands like King Oliver etc.

Keshav said:

Leadbelly died a few years before I was born - so never got to see him. But manage to see Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters (multiple times), Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee and lots of the greats before I turned 20.

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Wow. Man, I'm jealous: you got to see Hubert Sumlin play!

And the first blues album I ever bought was "You Bring Out the Boogie in Me" by Sunny Terry and Brownie McGhee.