He is def not Mr. Consistency but he is not that bad as his present results show. I hope some teams from WSBK have already contacted him. Actually if I were the head of Aprilia I would give him a shot next to Biaggi next year. They are similar size, both with huge GP-experience however mit different riding style. Not to mention that Elias may provide good information about the technical details of the RC212V. Somehow I have a feeling that he would be pretty good on that scud Aprilia RSV4.
WTH is up with Toni Elias?
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Things going from bad to worse?
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/170948/1/elias_receives_three-race_ultimatum.html
LCR have had some pretty fast riders in the past what with Stoner and De Puniet, so things are pretty dismal, who could theyget next?
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/170948/1/elias_receives_three-race_ultimatum.html
LCR have had some pretty fast riders in the past what with Stoner and De Puniet, so things are pretty dismal, who could theyget next?
Joined May 2008
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Southern Aridzona - Hell's doorstep.
OK, we'll try it YOUR way...
Welllll... that didn't work out so well.
Cripes, how dysfunctional can a 'team' be? Everyone is leaping to throw the other under the bus.
I honestly put this down to BAD management. We all know that Elias can ride and that the Honda is a more-than-competent machine. It seems the engineers and rider have somehow become set at odds. It's up to the doinks that run the ream to find a workable solution. They have failed.
Lets hope that the 'official' HRC baseline setup is good enough to beat some temps into the rubber - with or without the rider's cooperation.
Welllll... that didn't work out so well.
Cripes, how dysfunctional can a 'team' be? Everyone is leaping to throw the other under the bus.
I honestly put this down to BAD management. We all know that Elias can ride and that the Honda is a more-than-competent machine. It seems the engineers and rider have somehow become set at odds. It's up to the doinks that run the ream to find a workable solution. They have failed.
Lets hope that the 'official' HRC baseline setup is good enough to beat some temps into the rubber - with or without the rider's cooperation.
The engineers are just trying to cover their ...... Toni Elias is more then a competent rider, he's shown that he can get victories in every class that he's been in. Maybe his riding style is just too different and the engineers are at a lost at what to do and unable to come to a solution, thus pointing fingers at one another. I'm really puzzled at this situation within LCR too.......... wth IS really going on. Honda is the dominant bike on the grid, it's clear to see, but yet they consistently ALWAYS finish dead last?? It just doesn't make sense.
That is why I'm reverting back to my theory that Toni Elias IS indeed a test rider for Honda for next year, new rule changes !! You folks can believe what you want, I feel Honda is using him as a test rider and Toni is not too happy about it. He's trying to keep it quiet, but clearly you can see his dissatisfaction about the current situation he's in. He's not happy that they are using him, so he's voicing his opinion. THAT is why they are going to drop him if he keeps it up.
Don't be naive folks..... as much as we love racing, it ain't as pure as we all would like to think. It's a cut-throat business.
I mean come on. Why would any team give a rider, in this case Toni Elias an ultimatum and announced it in public? They don't do it because they want to force Toni Elias to push and get results and win races...... they do it so that he can shut up and get along with Honda's program. Trust me, he's just keeping his mouth shut for the moment, there's more then meets the eyes. Toni Elias is nothing more then a pawn in the whole scheme of things.
Politics my friend.
That is why I'm reverting back to my theory that Toni Elias IS indeed a test rider for Honda for next year, new rule changes !! You folks can believe what you want, I feel Honda is using him as a test rider and Toni is not too happy about it. He's trying to keep it quiet, but clearly you can see his dissatisfaction about the current situation he's in. He's not happy that they are using him, so he's voicing his opinion. THAT is why they are going to drop him if he keeps it up.
Don't be naive folks..... as much as we love racing, it ain't as pure as we all would like to think. It's a cut-throat business.
I mean come on. Why would any team give a rider, in this case Toni Elias an ultimatum and announced it in public? They don't do it because they want to force Toni Elias to push and get results and win races...... they do it so that he can shut up and get along with Honda's program. Trust me, he's just keeping his mouth shut for the moment, there's more then meets the eyes. Toni Elias is nothing more then a pawn in the whole scheme of things.
Politics my friend.
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You can't ignore facts, and regardless of your statement of him 'proving he is a competent rider' the facts are that in 2011 he has been consistently off the pace and with no signs of improving. he HAS to accept some of the blame because no-one out there has a perfectly set up bike. When the lights go out on race day they have to manage what they've got.
And as for your argument on Honda's 'Motivational techniques'...well
And as for your argument on Honda's 'Motivational techniques'...well
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