Turkey SPOILER

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (memento @ Apr 23 2007, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Great race finally (I was disappointed with first two).

First two - meaning the 125cc and 250cc? Why?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Apr 22 2007, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm pretty sure thats not the case, Pedrosa was on the outside of OJ, and when Olivier lost control Dani was taken down.
disagree mate, ive looked at the crash again and i clearly see dani at the rear left i.e offside and he slows very suddenly as if he grabbed the breaks or hit the back of oj's bike. this incident is in the very first frames on eurosport coverage.,

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Apr 22 2007, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sob sob, go crying to mommy Vale.
It's funny to see Rossi whining like Biaggi, my tyres blah blah, Elías blah blah!

Now the Rossi fans will jump at my neck but I HAD to say it!
you must have different coverage from me mate, all i saw was rossi in the garage explaining to the engineers what the problem was,
i would call that more of a de-breafing that a whinning.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Apr 22 2007, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>stoner is just on a lucky streek, wont be long before he starts smashing ducati's up into tiny pieces, he had the track to himself while everyone behind was battling it out obvious he was gonna ride to victory, rossi has bad luck following him around again but he will pull it back im sure.
was dissapointed in todays race specialy with elias for riding like a 3 year old on a tricycle geez if you got a line stick to it, rossi should have just gone into his garage and rammed a wrench up his backside. imagine elais done that on the first corner it would be A DISASTER.

until next time
bloody sour grapes!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Apr 22 2007, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>rossi should have just gone into his garage and rammed a wrench up his backside. i
yeah & sete should of done likewise...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (memento @ Apr 22 2007, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>(I was disappointed with first two).
are u refering to the 125s & 250s? if so u could'nt possibly have watched the same 2 i saw.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Apr 22 2007, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> are u refering to the 125s & 250s? if so u could'nt possibly have watched the same 2 i saw.
bloody heavy night made me miss the 125's but the 250 race was awsome.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Apr 22 2007, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>First two - meaning the 125cc and 250cc? Why?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>are u refering to the 125s & 250s? if so u could'nt possibly have watched the same 2 i saw.

No no!! First two Moto GP races!!

125's I slept over ( at myself) 250 was great!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Apr 22 2007, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"I'm quite unhappy with Elias today because I think he was quite dangerous"

Sob sob, go crying to mommy Vale.
It's funny to see Rossi whining like Biaggi, my tyres blah blah, Elías blah blah!

Now the Rossi fans will jump at my neck but I HAD to say it!
bein a bit of a tool today was'nt he! lovin it!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (memento @ Apr 22 2007, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No no!! First two Moto GP races!!

125's I slept over ( at myself) 250 was great!!
ooohhhhhhhh.... got ya

Sorry this is off topic but I need to ask.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (l13eaw @ Apr 22 2007, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Pot calling kettle black I think.

Liz

Can you explain this phrase please. Nothing to do with sports, I'm just trying to understand some song lyrics, but black kettle confuses me.

Sorry again!!!

on topic:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>i didn't see anything that Rossi wouldn't do to another rider ?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Actually I think this should make Rossi even more determined.
I agree, ad I can't wait!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Apr 22 2007, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> bein a bit of a tool today was'nt he! lovin it!!!
i must have missed something here because i aint got a clue what you lot are going on about, i didnt see him whinning.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Apr 22 2007, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i must have missed something here because i aint got a clue what you lot are going on about, i didnt see him whinning.
rog i aint seen/heard the interview. probably with the italian press? but it sounds toolish to me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (memento @ Apr 22 2007, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry this is off topic but I need to ask.
Can you explain this phrase please. Nothing to do with sports, I'm just trying to understand some song lyrics, but black kettle confuses me.

I'm assuming this phrase comes from a while back, when pots and kettles were made of iron and, therefore, were black. When someone says "pot calling the kettle black," it is usually accusing someone of being hypocritical. If the black pot calls the kettle black, then the pot is a hypocrite. In this case, Rossi "calls the kettle black" if he accuses Elias of riding dangerously (remember Jerez '05?).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Apr 22 2007, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>(remember Jerez '05?).
among others.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Apr 22 2007, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm assuming this phrase comes from a while back, when pots and kettles were made of iron and, therefore, were black. When someone says "pot calling the kettle black," it is usually accusing someone of being hypocritical. If the black pot calls the kettle black, then the pot is a hypocrite. In this case, Rossi "calls the kettle black" if he accuses Elias of riding dangerously (remember Jerez '05?).

Thanks!!!

There was also Cheyenne leader chief Black Kettle, so I was really confused (with song, not rossi)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Apr 22 2007, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>disagree mate, ive looked at the crash again and i clearly see dani at the rear left i.e offside and he slows very suddenly as if he grabbed the breaks or hit the back of oj's bike. this incident is in the very first frames on eurosport coverage.,
http://www.crash.net/news_view~cid~6~id~146817.htm

Kudos to Chris V.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Apr 22 2007, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>disagree mate, ive looked at the crash again and i clearly see dani at the rear left i.e offside and he slows very suddenly as if he grabbed the breaks or hit the back of oj's bike. this incident is in the very first frames on eurosport coverage.,

OJ entered the corner far too fast, he directly hit Edwards with the front and then tried to lift the bike, and that made his rear wheel hit Dani's front, and both crashed and then Dani's bike swept away taking out Vermeulen.

Clearly OJ's fault.

Olivier Jacque - DNF
"I am really sorry about what happened and there are no excuses: I made a mistake. I got a decent start and I was feeling good. It was a big group and I saw a good opportunity to make places up after the fast turn into the chicane. I was in the middle of the group and I missed my braking marker and when I braked it was too late. There was no space. I had no way out and couldn’t avoid touching Edward’s rear wheel. I made high flight and landed on my coccyx. I thought I had broken it, as it was really painful, but luckily it is not. Now I still feel a little bit dizzy but I feel even worse for the team as we had worked really hard throughout the weekend and the bike was feeling very good. I’m really looking forward to China to work even harder and reward them.”

Great ride from Casey, he was clearly the class of the weekend and did what Rossi use to do.

Best ride for me was Chris Vermuelen, the guy is always fighting for every position and had the race pace to ride with Elias and maybe Stoner (although Casey never really needed to push). Hopefully he can keep that momentum going into China.

Valentino is pissed with Elias, but for no good reason. Jerez 05. Great battle for third, the Ducati definitely loved this circuit.

It will be interesting to see how Michelin repsond for China, a race they dominated last year. Maybe Bridgestone can hand them their ..... again?

If you'll excuse me, I was kind of waiting for all these to put up…

(Of course this one two):

http://www.motogpforum.com/forum/index.php...t=0&#entry62031

So here I go, Elias did a tough overtaking maneuver, it’s racing, that’s the way it goes, no doubt, no problem from me with it. He applied this overtaking maneuver to Rossi when there were still 13 laps to go and the only thing I would point out is that Elias closed and touched fairing with Rossi still on the Straight, NOT once Rossi had already started to lean down! Anyway, it was tough but it’s racing.

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Now, to get to my point, if we get to the tyre probem… hell sht! If I had been riding with that tyre I would have stopped immediately and abandon the race, and not risk my life for a blowout like Nakano’s, remember? Moreover, Rossi held Hayden for a whole lap with that complete worn out tyre, from 7th when passed by Barros till 6 to end. The problem must have started obviously when he started dropping positions from second, so to even finish the race… Of course I would be complaining my head off; <u>it’s a life at stake</u>.

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Thanks for the pics!