Stoner Retiring!

basspete · May 18, 2012

bluegreen said:
Stoner retiring in his prime is a great loss for the sport. He is the undisputed king as things stand and I think it will take away from the show. In 2014 whoever wins it will be tainted with the thought that there is a farmer in Australia who probably could have whipped his butt.

He didn't like the direction the sport was heading and this isn't a desk job. There is no sense in risking your life for something you don't love. If he retires with 3WC's, and a body that works I think he will have accomplished everything he set out to do. He owes us nothing.

I have nothing but respect for the guy and wish he'd stick around. But he doesn't return my calls.

Again, what ifs, I don't think whoever lifts the title next year will worry about that. Stoner has yet to win this years title, he could break his leg next week an do jack .... the rest of the year.

When Stoner retires, the race world will move on and he will be another former champ, the new champion will take his place at the end of 2013 (or 2012) and what ifs will mean .... all.

To be the best,you have to be racing, so an ex racer on a tractor is irrelevant.

basspete · May 18, 2012

Willski said:
That Knockdown dude is a .... as well

So is that Scottish ....... that lives in Orkney

Willski · May 18, 2012

basspete said:
So is that Scottish ....... that lives in Orkney

Scottish ....... would be too complimentary for him. ....

basspete · May 18, 2012

Willski said:
Scottish ....... would be too complimentary for him. ....

Good call, he's a ......, .... bass player too

chopperman · May 18, 2012

I really hope he doesn't win the championship this year. I hope he retires after finishing a Biaggi 3rd or lower. I think he chose now to announce his retirement because he is an attention whore. No matter who wins this weekend the press will be all about him. I think he believes now the press and fans will be put into some sought of guilt trip and now only say nice things. He acts like a spoiled teenage girl imo.

chopperman · May 18, 2012

Willski said:
That Knockdown dude is a .... as well

grumpy old ........

Keshav · May 18, 2012

Beef Supreme said:
Pretty much my point. Maybe that's what the timing of the announcement is about: he's been nursing a grudge about stuff for so long that now that he's made the doubters eat ...., he's accomplished his real goal and can finally walk away from a sport and the attendant media he's despised for a while.

The wonder is how the most successful recent rider can also be so emotionally fragile. I guess it's not too surprising -- when you start a sport early, you're not really being exposed to broadening experiences. Could be his home life is a happy one and he'll ride off into the sunset ... unless the chip on his shoulder never falls off and he starts to get the itch to "show them" one more time...

I used to watch cartoons every Saturday morning. Now I've seen enough and they don't do it for me. Guess I'm emotionally fragile.

I used to play in lots of rock bands in my teens and twenties. Then I got tired of schlepping around in in the back of a bus and

playing bars and clubs don't do it for me; so I stopped doing it. I guess that makes me emotionally fragile.

What horseshit. When a pastime you love loses it's appeal - you move on and do something more rewarding.

povol · May 18, 2012

I dont get why some people dont understand his disdain for CRT's as a main reason for him to retire. Or they do understand , but it goes against their stance on CRT's, so they dont accept it as a reason to retire.

Jumkie · May 18, 2012

Beef Supreme said:
Pretty much my point. Maybe that's what the timing of the announcement is about: he's been nursing a grudge about stuff for so long that now that he's made the doubters eat ...., he's accomplished his real goal and can finally walk away from a sport and the attendant media he's despised for a while.

The wonder is how the most successful recent rider can also be so emotionally fragile. I guess it's not too surprising -- when you start a sport early, you're not really being exposed to broadening experiences. Could be his home life is a happy one and he'll ride off into the sunset ... unless the chip on his shoulder never falls off and he starts to get the itch to "show them" one more time...

Except I wouldn't describe him as "emotionally fragile" or "chip on his shoulder". More like he is simply a bit of an introvert. Which I consider to be infinitely different. I think introverts get a bad wrap in this world. They are usually the subject of bullies and cowards. Stoner strikes me a being an introvert in a world that loves extraverts. But neither of the too are saints. Though extroverts are better equipped to deal with the public.

Keshav · May 18, 2012

chopperman said:
I really hope he doesn't win the championship this year. I hope he retires after finishing a Biaggi 3rd or lower. I think he chose now to announce his retirement because he is an attention whore. No matter who wins this weekend the press will be all about him. I think he believes now the press and fans will be put into some sought of guilt trip and now only say nice things. He acts like a spoiled teenage girl imo.

Dude if you weren't bitter and spiteful - you wouldn't be you.

beefsupreme · May 18, 2012

povol said:
I dont get why some people dont understand his disdain for CRT's as a main reason for him to retire. Or they do understand , but it goes against their stance on CRT's, so they dont accept it as a reason to retire.

Because it's silly.

chopperman · May 18, 2012

povol said:
I dont get why some people dont understand his disdain for CRT's as a main reason for him to retire. Or they do understand , but it goes against their stance on CRT's, so they dont accept it as a reason to retire.

Rossi said he would retire if he were forced to sign a new contract with Michelin. You flame him ! Stoner says he will retire because CRT's have been introduced onto the grid. Your totally understanding and supportive. The double standards of you neo boppers is outstanding !

povol · May 18, 2012

chopperman said:
I really hope he doesn't win the championship this year. I hope he retires after finishing a Biaggi 3rd or lower. I think he chose now to announce his retirement because he is an attention whore. No matter who wins this weekend the press will be all about him. I think he believes now the press and fans will be put into some sought of guilt trip and now only say nice things. He acts like a spoiled teenage girl imo.

Compared to you hoping he doesnt win the title in what year ? Do you really really not want him to win this year.

chopperman · May 18, 2012

Keshav said:
Dude if you weren't bitter and spiteful - you wouldn't be you.

Spiteful yes. Bitter no. why would i be bitter?

povol · May 18, 2012

chopperman said:
Rossi said he would retire if he were forced to sign a new contract with Michelin. You flame him ! Stoner says he will retire because CRT's have been introduced onto the grid. Your totally understanding and supportive. The double standards of you neo boppers is outstanding !

To start with, nobody can force anyone to sign a contract, you do that under your own free will. Second, using Michelin tires was not setting the sport back 20 years in performance, he just wanted what Casey had. Maybe Casey should have demanded an M1 in 08-10 so he could have what another team developed. Weak comparison .

chopperman · May 18, 2012

povol said:
To start with, nobody can force anyone to sign a contract, you do that under your own free will. Second, using Michelin tires was not setting the sport back 20 years in performance, he just wanted what Casey had. Maybe Casey should have demanded an M1 in 08-10 so he could have what another team developed. Weak comparison .

When your contract is up you are normally free to choose whether to re-sign or go else where. He was being denied the choice so said he would rather retire. You flamed him. Who is forcing Casey to ride a CRT?

Keshav · May 18, 2012

chopperman said:
Spiteful yes. Bitter no. why would i be bitter?

Because he whipped yer boy's ... twice. In any event - both are petty, niggardly qualities.

stiefel · May 18, 2012

basspete said:
an ex racer on a tractor is irrelevant.

Hey, leave Rossi out of this!

Jumkie · May 18, 2012

Beef Supreme said:
Because it's silly.

Correct. Its basically the only part I am in disagreement with in Casey's recent comments. The interesting thing is that many of his fans are defending it for what I suspect is to simply agree with Stoner. But as you said, its just silly. I don't understand what they don't get about the nature of changing rules. Especially this change that was spawned more by a need to save the championship. Yes, mismanagement may have got us to this point, but ultimately there needs to be a solution. This is the current solution they have come up with, and frankly, as Moto2 and Moto3 have been a test bed for this shift in formula, I can't say its without merit. People like Pov and Mental want to say they feel "vindicated" that Stoner has expressed the same, hahaha, OK. Now what? I want them to be all on 990s, and many more riders have said this in the past, so What NOW? Silly silly silly. Who give a .... what we all WANT, what can we have? At this point we CANNOT have everybody on a "prototypes" (........ term as its simply a product of arbitrary rules that NOBODY here has yet to logically counterpoint this term).

MdubSTYLIE · May 18, 2012

Would you brits quit ....... up the threads. Shut the .... up. Yea yer all the same to me. Toothless and your food sucks!

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