Lorenzo warns Rossi over being bossy

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FiveWaysHaze @ Dec 15 2009, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Man your just too funny

Yes I am very high but I always remember. You would'nt be able to handle what I got

You may or may not have heard of Coronation Street it a British soap opera well that to me is exactly what Motogp is and the riders are like soccer players a bunch of over paid Prima Donnas that do more bitching than anything else. And like Coronation Street its enough to keep mindless ....... happy

Do you get my point now?
I'm sorry, so if MotoGP is too soft for you, what do you follow? There's no better two-wheeled talent on the planet, period. If you're a rider or a motorcycle guy, this is it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Dec 15 2009, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think like this guy! Welcome.

Are you including yourself? Because here you are contributing to the mindless .....-assness.

No I'm not including myself. I havent really taken part in the discussion of what one nancy rider has been saying to the papers rather than saying it to each other like real men would.

I chimed in to give my thoughts on Motogp in general probably not the thread to do it in so I'll use my noob card

I'm very passionate about bike racing and bikes in general but I follow what I consider to be real bike racing with real genuine racers not pampered media muppets. I've been to Motogp, Wsbk and Bsb races in my time and none of them have come close to the action and excitement of road racing. Road racers take on far greater risks for next to nothing. As a friend poetically put it

Crazy are called those who play with the limits
Insane are called those who deal with death
Masters are called those who seal the deal
Legends are called anyone of those who die in their quest.

I could easily write an eassy on it but instead I'll post some clips

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marijke @ Dec 15 2009, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>thats EXACTLY why I follow it my friends always ask whats so good about racing, I tell them if you know whats going on you'll find its just like any random soap show. only this one looks/is bad-... cause of the bikes and the guys in leather

Case in point but if thats what turns you on then go for it

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Dec 15 2009, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm sorry, so if MotoGP is too soft for you, what do you follow? There's no better two-wheeled talent on the planet, period. If you're a rider or a motorcycle guy, this is it.

Austin my friend you could'nt be more wrong. There is a massive world of road racing that mainly takes place in my small country and other small countries\Islands like New Zealand and the Isle of Man. I'm sure you must have but please dont tell me you've never heard of the Isle of Man TT.

Yes Motogp is too soft and sterile. Bloody hell even Rossi said he did'nt have the balls to go at the TT like McGuinness would. Dont get me wrong though its still bike racing after all and I watch every pratice, Q and Race but it is not "it"

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FiveWaysHaze @ Dec 15 2009, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No I'm not including myself. I havent really taken part in the discussion of what one nancy rider has been saying to the papers rather than saying it to each other like real men would.
I chimed in to give my thoughts on Motogp in general probably not the thread to do it in so I'll use my noob card

I'm very passionate about bike racing and bikes in general but I follow what I consider to be real bike racing with real genuine racers not pampered media muppets. I've been to Motogp, Wsbk and Bsb races in my time and none of them have come close to the action and excitement of road racing. Road racers take on far greater risks for next to nothing. As a friend poetically put it

Crazy are called those who play with the limits
Insane are called those who deal with death
Masters are called those who seal the deal
Legends are called anyone of those who die in their quest.
Okay maybe you haven't taken part in it(which I would disagree with on the basis of this thread alone), but you obviously have read all of it. Your commenting on it right now. In all seriousness your taking a big .... on motogp in a motogp forum to people who are passionate about motogp. Your either delusional or trying to make a name for yourself on here. I dont think I have ever said this to anyone before, but maybe you should lay off the chron. Read your posts again, you are a total hypocrite.

& No .... TT's are bad ....... ... and would watch all of them if they were on here in the states. I dont think anyone on here would disagree with how hardcore that .... is.

Sorry to go off at a tangent...I've only just noticed your sig. Mdub

Were it anyone else, you'd assume it a bad attempt at humour, but as I've said before, what's so worrying is the fact that far from trolling, the guy's 100% serious when he posts.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Dec 15 2009, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry to go off at a tangent...I've only just noticed your sig. Mdub

Were it anyone else, you'd assume it a bad attempt at humour, but as I've said before, what's so worrying is the fact that far from trolling, the guy's 100% serious when he posts.

Oh he was serious. At first I didn't think much of it being, I think mike moved to the Netherlands for a while after his ummm indiscretions. I think it was marijke(not sure if I spelled it right) who called him out. He never respond. It was classic. I will see if I can find the whole post.

fonud it. linky

I like that 4 post earlier you said. "Actually, don't underestimate the stupidity of SS56 - I'd say he's entirely serious. He's often mistaken for a troll on account of this."

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FiveWaysHaze @ Dec 15 2009, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Austin my friend you could'nt be more wrong. There is a massive world of road racing that mainly takes place in my small country and other small countries\Islands like New Zealand and the Isle of Man. I'm sure you must have but please dont tell me you've never heard of the Isle of Man TT.

Yes Motogp is too soft and sterile. Bloody hell even Rossi said he did'nt have the balls to go at the TT like McGuinness would. Dont get me wrong though its still bike racing after all and I watch every pratice, Q and Race but it is not "it"
I've watched Isle of Man and Macau before, no questioning their skill and balls. That being said, I don't think any of those guys would give Rossi a run on a grand prix circuit. Like I said, not taking anything away from those guys because it takes a special skill set and state of mind to race in those circumstances, something that no current grand prix rider has. However, the talent levels are not the same. If you're into talent, MotoGP is it. Period.

Those guys can talk about the rush they get from road racing and how nothing in the world compares and they might honestly believe it, or it could be true. But if those guys had the talent to run grand prix and earn multiple times their present salary and drastically diminish their chances of serious injury on a regular basis, don't you think they'd opt for that path?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Dec 15 2009, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No .... TT's are bad ....... ... and would watch all of them if they were on here in the states.
If you get HD Theater they've been broadcasting hour long segments of Isle of Man and Macau. They also picked up WRC. That channel's got some pretty cool stuff, check it out if you get it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Dec 15 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I've watched Isle of Man and Macau before, no questioning their skill and balls. That being said, I don't think any of those guys would give Rossi a run on a grand prix circuit. Like I said, not taking anything away from those guys because it takes a special skill set and state of mind to race in those circumstances, something that no current grand prix rider has. However, the talent levels are not the same. If you're into talent, MotoGP is it. Period.

Those guys can talk about the rush they get from road racing and how nothing in the world compares and they might honestly believe it, or it could be true. But if those guys had the talent to run grand prix and earn multiple times their present salary and drastically diminish their chances of serious injury on a regular basis, don't you think they'd opt for that path?


If you get HD Theater they've been broadcasting hour long segments of Isle of Man and Macau. They also picked up WRC. That channel's got some pretty cool stuff, check it out if you get it.


Road Racing & I've done it - is close to blood sport if you crash - try Horice - come down the hill & lose it & there's one big house right behind the half dozen tires laid out on the curb .

MotoGp is a purposely organized circus - entertaining, overseeable and very high speed - choose what you like BUT don't trash the other.

Rossi is a prima donna - no question, BUT with reason - Prima does mean first (and best) - He is the best around - is, has been and will remain #1 for sometime - Lorenzo is an arrogant little ...., with enough talent to get him a ride on the bike that VR & JB built from the crap Biaggi & others had developed before them. Rossi isn't being bossy - he didn't tell Lorenzo what to do, simply pointed to his ace card and let Yamaha know what he wants - you don't ask - you don't get - even Lorenzo knows that - he did enough fishing last season - asked for a 1 yr contract & that's what he got - he should have asked for 2 yrs if he wanted to tie down 2011

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marijke @ Dec 15 2009, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>thats EXACTLY why I follow it my friends always ask whats so good about racing, I tell them if you know whats going on you'll find its just like any random soap show. only this one looks/is bad-... cause of the bikes and the guys in leather

Don't forget the scantily clad grid girls

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FiveWaysHaze @ Dec 15 2009, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I chimed in to give my thoughts on Motogp in general probably not the thread to do it in so I'll use my noob card
Welcome to the forum. You're making a nice little splash.

Pass the dutchie on the left hand side.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Dec 15 2009, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Don't forget the scantily clad grid girls
yes agreed, its always fun to see the grid girls holding their umbrella's when the wind is blowing strong, or when it rains and they wear those suzuki dresses made out of paper huh

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marijke @ Dec 15 2009, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yes agreed, its always fun to see the grid girls holding their umbrella's when the wind is blowing strong, or when it rains and they wear those suzuki dresses made out of paper huh

and some of the riders - like stoner & pedrosa - trying to be jocks & ignore the girls - that's so funny - but then the girls are bigger and weigh more than they do - it's good to see we're off the dumb track this thread started with

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Dec 15 2009, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and some of the riders - like stoner & pedrosa - trying to be jocks & ignore the girls - that's so funny - but then the girls are bigger and weigh more than they do - it's good to see we're off the dumb track this thread started with
yeah thought it was best to NOT keep on topic since the subject is kinda he said/he said and us interpretting what they mean huh

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Dec 16 2009, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>and some of the riders - like stoner & pedrosa - trying to be jocks & ignore the girls - that's so funny - but then the girls are bigger and weigh more than they do - it's good to see we're off the dumb track this thread started with

Hayden though always talks to the grid girls. Always asking for conditioner advise

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Dec 15 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Road Racing & I've done it - is close to blood sport if you crash - try Horice - come down the hill & lose it & there's one big house right behind the half dozen tires laid out on the curb .

MotoGp is a purposely organized circus - entertaining, overseeable and very high speed - choose what you like BUT don't trash the other.

Rossi is a prima donna - no question, BUT with reason - Prima does mean first (and best) - He is the best around - is, has been and will remain #1 for sometime - Lorenzo is an arrogant little ...., with enough talent to get him a ride on the bike that VR & JB built from the crap Biaggi & others had developed before them. Rossi isn't being bossy - he didn't tell Lorenzo what to do, simply pointed to his ace card and let Yamaha know what he wants - you don't ask - you don't get - even Lorenzo knows that - he did enough fishing last season - asked for a 1 yr contract & that's what he got - he should have asked for 2 yrs if he wanted to tie down 2011
Austin isn't trashing the other, read his post again. We had this debate on another long lost thread at some length. There are riders which are the obvious exceptions to the rule - many of them from yesteryear, when the GP calendar contained tracks like Imatra and Spa circuits that which resembled or were derived in sections from public roads; but short circuit racing in general, I agree wholeheartedly with Austin, now an entirely different division to road racing is the preserve of the greater skill, and nurtures a greater overall talent.

You've road raced? I've known a few guy's who have participated over the years, primarily in the TT and the NW, one who is sadly no longer with us. They all had one thing in common..fear was simply not in their vocabulary, because they seemed to summon an entirely different mindset - yet club racing at say Cadwell, they'd be sick with nerves as they rode out of the paddock. You have my respect, please elaborate ie: where and when, I'm genuinely interested.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Dec 15 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Austin isn't trashing the other, read his post again. We had this debate on another long lost thread at some length. There are riders which are the obvious exceptions to the rule - many of them from yesteryear, when the GP calendar contained tracks like Imatra and Spa circuits that which resembled or were derived in sections from public roads; but short circuit racing in general, I agree wholeheartedly with Austin, now an entirely different division to road racing is the preserve of the greater skill, and nurtures a greater overall talent.

You've road raced? I've known a few guy's who have participated over the years, primarily in the TT and the NW, one who is sadly no longer with us. They all had one thing in common..fear was simply not in their vocabulary, because they seemed to summon an entirely different mindset - yet club racing at say Cadwell, they'd be sick with nerves as they rode out of the paddock. You have my respect, please elaborate ie: where and when, I'm genuinely interested.
Cheers Arrab.

Knocking road racing was not my intent. Like I mentioned, it's a whole different skill set and mental state that no current grand prix rider possesses. It's just that I don't see any of those guys making a major impact in a grand prix.

Austin I dont think you trashed road racing one bit. Sure I could not argue any road racer given the choice would have gone the route of running gps as did Eugene and Michael Laverty. I think those guys would be road racing for sure had they not got or I should say made their opportunities, unfortunatly those types of opportunities are few and far between. I will concede to a point that Motogp is "it" on the engineering and technological side and everything in 2 wheeled sport is sup-par when you talk about the bikes. The talent\rider skill part I cannot agree on 100% mabey 50\50, we would have to name the riders we are talking about because in motogp there is a small bunch of riders in a whole other atmosphere, not all motogp riders would dominate just the top 2 or 3 mabey. Michael Dunlop rode an outstanding race in Valencia just a few months ago on a piece of ..... Honda doing just like his uncle loading it up in the van and driving to the race. I feel if someone of Michaels calibre were given decent sponsorship, budget, equipment and dedicate team he would do very well racing gps. Actually I would love to see him in moto2 but then he would stop road racing where he would be missed. I will say if you want balls out racing, guys really going toe to toe, something where you nearly have a greater chance of seeing a dinosaur than seeing the same kind of action in motogp then watch road racing closest on track these days would be Wsbk. If you want to see 2 or 3 good laps and then guys going around in circles of clinical precision for another 20 odd laps then watch Motogp

Mdub your just a waste of time replying to so this will be my last on the subject with you. If its anyone that needs to lay off anything its you and your stereotyping just because I like to smoke dose not mean I am some forgetfull moran and I thought this was a motorsport forum where people were free to express their views and opinions. I Dont need to reread my posts but mabey you do. How dose stating that I watch every Motogp session I can make me a hyproicate? Dose the fact that I hold the view that motogp in recent years has turned into a debacle, the most boring off all championships, that it has been turned into some kinda of soap opera to keep the viewers entertained more in the press room than on circuit. And that the riders are over paid self centered ........ Because I hold this view dose that mean I am not allowed to watch Motogp? Once the riders go off track I could'nt really care less what happens with all the MCN ......... There is also of course the 125cc and we had 250cc which had better racing than Motogp. Yes I can see why my opinion would upset a muppet like yourself. Motogp could very easy be the best championhsip on the calander as it once used to be but Dorna has ...... that up so bad and continue to do so

JT was an employee.. Rossi is The GOAT.. Lorenzo needs to look at the record book and stfu.

















besides Yamaha dont need Lorenzo, they have Spies now style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Dec 16 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>JT was an employee.. Rossi is The GOAT.. Lorenzo needs to look at the record book and stfu.

Hey - Ride one - not one, but TWO bullseyes















besides Yamaha dont need Lorenzo, they have Spies now style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif

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