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hawkdriver said:
all the greats that came before him that raced for peanuts just because they loved to ride
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What more is there to prove? He rode a Ducati for four years. Same one that made Rossi get depressed, and publically admit he has lost the motivation to push just in the hope of getting 5th place. Yet he still takes the money. Same bike you continually ..... about that is stalling Hayden's career and making motogp boring for you. The little whinger prick Stoner said .... it I'll either win on this Ducati or crash trying, and ended up winning as many races as anyone. Now which approach reminds you more of the racers that came before him?
 
?So this means Mick reigns best Aussie pilot still?
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like CS or not ( ansidontz ), i'm more miff'd cause he's denied MotoGP fans the possibility of 5 to 10 years of epicness.... Complaining about CRTs and or MotoGPs heading is ........, at the end of the day MotoGP will always have the fastest bikes in the world.. quiter.
 
spooky said:
Head up Rossi's ...? Your head is so far up Caseys ... its unreal - i bet you got a hard on reading that "we're so alike, yay!"



For the record i agree to an extent with what he's saying, but you blaming Rossi for it is a pile of ....., its ....... DORNA!! If they hadn't changed the rules so much the sport wouldn't be in the state its in.
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Read it again and try to comprehend. Im not blaming Rossi, im blaming his fans. By a huge majority, it is Rossi fans who have screamed the narrative that Moto GP is boring, It is boring to them because their guy is not winning. I guaranfuckingtee you if Rossi was still winning races and championships, we would not be having this conversation. Is that simple enough for you to understand. The mob mentality has taken over GP and Dorna is like a dog chasing its ....... tail. They are so desperate to appease the mob , they dont realize they are killing the sport. When a guy puts his heart and soul into being the elite performer of his day, and the response is " im bored", i dont blame him for leaving. He is telling the bored fan and Dorna { who went along with the mob} to go .... themselves. Dorna never promoted him as the next great, they just kept trying to figure ways of slowing him down. That will make you bitter and make you feel unappreciated. Thanks for the memories Casey, i just hope you have not opened a huge can of bad karma for the rest of the season by announcing now.
 
I dont understand why the Aussies are all supporting Stoners decision.

I dont know the Aussie culture other then what the great and hilarious Paul Hogan has taught us but most of America is blue collar hard working folk. The reason why we are the most productive nation on the planet is because we are taught a very strong work ethic.

There is a distinct difference between the european work attitude and ours.

Maybe Aussies share the same attitude as the Euros and find this more acceptable but where I come from he looks like a whining quitter
 
Congratulations on a great career & well done Casey. The hatred towards him has always baffles me & this, to me, is the primary reason for him leaving. If you have ......... from all over the world constantly putting the boot in, it will inevitably wear you down. .... all to do with being mentally weak, everything to do with those who have never walked the walk, thinking they can talk the talk. Stoner was portryed as the anti-christ as soon as he started beating Rossi & he never liked that portrayal. He still gets no respect from a lot of people for his acheivements. So good on him for being his own man, following through on his convictions & doing what is best for him.



Gaz said:
So to the subject at hand.



Not overly surprising really as there has been loud talk about his enjoyment (or lack thereof) for the sport for a while ............................. plus of course the many indication he has given himself that he will not continue into a 'dumbed down' formula as it does not interest him.



IMO, I congratulate him for standing up for what he believes in and following through and in saying that I do hope that he does not change his mind but instead waves goodbye to the scene later in the year to then go forth into the challenge of fatherhood,
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Good one Gaz.
 
Jumkie said:
...., i still cant believe it. I like that Stoner has said .... the politics! I applaud him for that, i just cant get my head around saying .... change.



So, how soon will they name Stoners fav corner in PI after him?
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He is against change as it pertains to people. He is angry that there are no bikes for Colin and Randy. He's angry that the cost-cutting will almost certainly lead to layoffs and personnel restrictions. He's angry about the technical regulations insofar as marketing people and bean counters are going to exert direct control over the engineers and riders, though the riders assume all of the risk when the rules change.



I wish Casey well, and I don't blame him for retiring. MotoGP has taken a nose dive since his sophomore season. He is the 800cc posterchild so he is villified as the symbol for everything wrong. I'm almost happy to know that he will no longer toil under the yoke of MotoGP management.



I was cautiously optimistic after seeing the first 2-3 rounds that MotoGP might have stumbled on a formula with a bit of potential. Stoner's departure indicates that the rules changes are probably going to create a crisis amongst the people within the sport. People are the first to go b/c they are risky and uncontrollable. They cannot be depended on from a corporate perspective, and personnel cannot be traded, sold, or licensed. Anything that can be purchased, but not owned is dangerous in the mind of corporate financiers.
 
JohnnyKnockdown said:
People that complain incessantly are mentally weak. They cant deal with basic human existence and are the cancer of any worksite

Stoner lives a charmed lifestyle and does nothing but complain about his obligations, his employers and his competitors.



........ like Stoner .... on hard working people like me who bust their ..... all year long to maybe get a week or two of holiday and never complain.

He's an entitled little brat who manufacturers slights against himself. Its hard to fathom how he believes the world is out to get him when hes getting paid $19 a second
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If you're doing some kind of forum based Andy Kaufman ironic routine here to lampoon lame posts by certain forum members as has been asserted by a certain Californian maybe you are a hidden genius. Unfortunately you seem to have a one-man fan club.
 
chopperman said:
Damn mate, all this hate will consume you. Get help buddy, your starting to sound like BM.
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Yes roger, all fans of riders other than rossi are motivated only by hatred of rossi, including those who followed the sport for decades before rossi's advent, and you have no prejudice or bias of any kind, and are just a dispassionate observer proclaiming the obvious truth without any hatred of any rider, including just for instance casey stoner, yourself.



Whatever else, he is actually not going out broken and humiliiated and unable to cut it with your guy as seems to have always been your wish and which you pre-supposed had already happened in 2008, rather the reverse I would have thought.



If he has proved all that he wants to prove to himself, that is all that matters, and good luck to him. I would have thought he has proven anything that needed to be proven to rossi and an element among his fans as well, but that is largely irrelevant.



I have been thinking of more illustrious quitters, rocky marciano who retired as the undefeated heavyweight champion and herb elliott, never beaten in senior competition over 1 mile or 1500 metres. I don't know they lived with themselves. I think herb had to go on to be CEO of several major multinational corporations or something. I guess hawthorne, surtees and hailwood were quitters as well.
 
michaelm said:
I was thinking of those famous quitters, both with more illustrious records than stoner of course, rocky marciano who retired as the undefeated heavyweight champion and herb elliott, never beaten in senior competition over 1 mile or 1500 metres. I don't know they lived with themselves.
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Geez Mick, I had forgotten how mentally wek Marciano and Elliot were, thanks for reminding me
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michaelm said:
Yes roger, all fans of riders other than rossi are motivated only by hatred of rossi, including those have followed the sport for decades before rossi's advent, and you have no prejudice or bias of any kind, and are just a dispassionate observer proclaiming the obvious truth without any hatred of any rider, including just for instance casey stoner, yourself.



Whatever else, he is actually not going out broken and humiliiated and unable to cut it with your guy as seems to have always been your wish and which you pre-supposed had already happened in 2008, rather the reverse I would have thought.



If he has proved all that he wants to prove to himself, that is all that matters, and good luck to him. I would have thought he has proven anything that needed to be proven to rossi and an element among his fans as well, but that is largely irrelevant.



I have been thinking of more illustrious quitters, rocky marciano who retired as the undefeated heavyweight champion and herb elliott, never beaten in senior competition over 1 mile or 1500 metres. I don't know they lived with themselves. I think herb had to go on to be CEO of several major multinational corporations or something. I guess hawthorne, surtees and hailwood were quitters as well.
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Once again... This.
 
Gee some of you are morons. Why the hell would anybody continue in ANY industry doing something they do not enjoy? The only reason one may continue doing a job they do not enjoy or have a passion for is to put food on the table when no other options exist, and obviously this is not a concern for a top leading MotoGP rider. So why the flying .... would he continue doing something he no longer enjoys when he can change to something he does? He has every right to make this decision for himself and his own joy, he owes no one anything.
 
birdman said:
What more is there to prove? He rode a Ducati for four years. Same one that made Rossi get depressed, and publically admit he has lost the motivation to push just in the hope of getting 5th place. Yet he still takes the money. Same bike you continually ..... about that is stalling Hayden's career and making motogp boring for you. The little whinger prick Stoner said .... it I'll either win on this Ducati or crash trying, and ended up winning as many races as anyone. Now which approach reminds you more of the racers that came before him?
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Heres the "work ethic" above JohnnyK you speak of nothing more nothing less.
 
michaelm said:
Do you mean what brand of sunglasses or underwear they are wearing at the time perhaps, or just whether you happen to like them?
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I know it's a rhetorical question, but I guess it doesn't hurt to repeat myself: Stoner is retiring because for emotional/mental/psychological reasons, he can't take it anymore. It's not because he wants to spend more time with his family, or because he has nothing left to prove.
 

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