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Mad Marqy the villain released from his cell and escorted to the next race.
Rossi the hero’s reaction to Mad Marqy appearing on the grid.
Mad Marqy the villain released from his cell and escorted to the next race.
Rossi the hero’s reaction to Mad Marqy appearing on the grid.
The hand of apology at the time indicates that he felt guilty so IMO only but he went there to apologise, although whether this was his idea or that of Puig who did seem to be leading him there is open for conjecture.
Either way, he did not get a chance as the bodyguard appeared and made it clear that Marquez was unwanted so we never know.
To me it looked more apologetic as he seems to turn to look and so forth whereas others (and perhaps even him at times) do not turn or offer any apology.
I know that when I played tennis years back (inter club) I had a system that if I looked at you when apologising (by gesture or words), then I meant it and had respect for you, but if I simply held up my hand as an apology with no words and was not looking your direction - then the apology was half hearted as I may have been sorry but did not respect you enough to make it a full apology.
But what you say may well be right as in many ways, Marquez is the new Rossi in that he has (Had) a folloeing as was the next annointed
Guess we will have to wait for the book to come out
Joined Jul 2011
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Dont Know
Danski, humanity needs you’re help again buddy. Save the jaded old man, at least in time for the next episode of death race, wouldn’t want Kurt to miss this .................
Our hero has taken a blow from evil Sith apprentice Mork who laughs out loud as he wrecks havoc over the good planet MotoVR
Our hero admits fear of the dark side, but rejoice, the yellow empire strikes back..........
And following an almighty battle...............
Emerges from the yellow mist victorious..............
.............hang in there old guy...........only one more week
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
Why don’t you log into the little Walter account and post something smart?
That’s your last resort whenever things get a bit too hot to handle innit?
Actually being able to find a doorknob is perhaps another stage in your own intellectual advancement. If you work out one day how to use one to open a door for Valentino perhaps you might have prospects of taking over Uccio’s job.
To be honest, fellas, I really don't think that had this happened between any other riders it would've made any ripples.
By that I mean that there has been an awful lot of dissection as to where the blame lies, where as in reality it's just a racing incident. Take away the names involved and it would not be worth all the effort that's been poured into it.
Vale wasn't horrifically off line and Marc just lost the front in the wet, it's that simple. If you looked at the incidents during the race then it would come in as number 2 or 3 in the 'severity top ten' behind Zarco and possibly Petrucci.
Vale was only pushed wide and it was just a shame that he touched wet grass and went down.
Yes I know Marc also nudged Aleix, but I have seen a lot worse go unpunished.
It's more a question of how is a guy so much faster than the best riders in the world, when on equal tyres and a bike that isn't notably better than the competition.
Can you imagine what Marc could do if he had the advantage of 'overnight special' tyres or a bike as dominant as the RCV was in the first years of the 4 stroke era?
By that I mean that there has been an awful lot of dissection as to where the blame lies, where as in reality it's just a racing incident. Take away the names involved and it would not be worth all the effort that's been poured into it.
Vale wasn't horrifically off line and Marc just lost the front in the wet, it's that simple. If you looked at the incidents during the race then it would come in as number 2 or 3 in the 'severity top ten' behind Zarco and possibly Petrucci.
Vale was only pushed wide and it was just a shame that he touched wet grass and went down.
Yes I know Marc also nudged Aleix, but I have seen a lot worse go unpunished.
It's more a question of how is a guy so much faster than the best riders in the world, when on equal tyres and a bike that isn't notably better than the competition.
Can you imagine what Marc could do if he had the advantage of 'overnight special' tyres or a bike as dominant as the RCV was in the first years of the 4 stroke era?
He will have to learn to do a lot more than that if he wants Uccio's job,he will have to be able to hold the ipad,pass his master earplugs,his gum shield,tissues to wipe his sweaty brow or dry his eyes when Marquez kicks his ...,blow on Rossi's food at meal times so it's not too hot for him,hold his .... so he can urinate with his race gloves on and of course act as heroic guardian of the pit garage
I agree with all this except the bit about it being a shame that he touched the wet grass and went down,that was the best bit of the race for me..funny as ....,i only hope he does it again next race.
Absolutely agree about the incident, although the back history between the two imo may also have influenced how they reacted in the circumstance, perhaps both would have ridden differently against other riders. I agree with Gaz that Valentino is never going to concede a corner to MM in almost any circumstance if it is for a position, and MM would be naive to have any expectation of same. I can think of several such incidents when 1 or both riders were imo likely influenced by factors other than just the immediate situation in the race, including Rossi/Gibernau Jerez 2005, Pedrosa/Hayden 2006, Rossi/Stoner Jerez 2011, and Simoncelli/Pedrosa 2011 (?Estoril).
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Italy
Gonna be honest I wanted to write pretty much exactly this but I wasn't in the mood to get roasted so I'll dedicate you this emoji:
:clapping:
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Norah Head
The trouble is the "back history" is really only animosity from rossi. I dont think Marquez gives a toss about rossi.
Its always been like that between rossi and anyone who bests him.
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Pomona NY
Why, in your poor sad life, have you never had an original idea? Why have you never been funny? Why has all your sniping continually missed the mark? Why haven't you ever had any friends? Why have you always been such a lonely, socially inept and angry loser? What has led to believe anybody gives a .... about you and your irrelevant posts that are virtual, word-for-word, carbon copies of those we've seen from your fellow clones? Without your avatars, it's hard to tell you guys apart.
These are questions you should be asking.
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Chertsey, Surrey, UK
Maybe MM could do a Rossi v Gibernau 2005 at the last corner at Jerez against Rossi. I'd love that.
He has way more form than almost any rider in history for this malarkey. I ran through this in one of my last 10 posts.
Lest we forget that you spent most of 2013 saying the same, even going so far as to call him 'Murder Marc'...
Sure he has form as a teenager in moto 2 with Darth Alzamora running him, but notwithstanding this the actual incident was hardly anything, and the type of move which was pretty much a signature move from Rossi in his pomp. You and others have dismissed multiple more questionable moves from Rossi some of which were deliberate as ancient history, btw. MM doesn’t have much form as a premier class rider for taking other riders out in races. I actually blamed him for the Pedrosa thing a few seasons back because he was running too close to Dani imo, but that was fairly freakish and involved a wire being severed iirc rather than barrelling into him.
If we are to look at more recent history devoid of context, the score for one rider taking the other out of a race is twice by Rossi, once by MM, also btw. The stuff about the grid move in this race is nonsense for the reasons Jumkie gave, RD were making it up as they went along, and Espargaro himself rather than Rossi fans observing the incident with MM had more problem with Zarco than MM in this race.
So sure, MM could have waited one corner and made a less risky pass, but that he is a terrible danger to Rossi other than to beat him in races and for titles is manufactured, particularly given Rossi has actually taken him out of a race by a deliberate illegal move.
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