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These guys eat breath and live bike racing from the time they are 5 years old and the huge majority of them have nor want to do with anything else. I would put big money on most of the posters here, especially ones like Arrabiata in a Wonderlic test showdown. They [riders] may travel the world, but that doesnt make them worldly.

While that may be true, does the fact that one is not worldly truly measure the capacity for intelligence? I get what you're saying, in that usually people with a singular intense focus in life do so because their intellect doesn't cry out to learn other things. However, to my knowledge, none of us really know how intelligent any of these riders really are.

And I'm surprised I'm saying this but...Rossi's english seems far worse than some of the other riders, and the ability to learn a language is certainly an indication of intellect. So who knows...
 
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Yeah but Povol, whether you believe me or not, I didn't fleece any hookers. If I was going to sign up for a hooker "forum", I'd definitely use a different name.

And what would you point to that indicates he would get smoked in an aptitude?

Ah yes, you already explained why it wasn't you. :Wink :wink (You were joking right?)

As to your second point, Rossi is called the "Doctor", there is a member here that actually is a doctor. Rossi is no doubt very intelligent, I concede far more intelligent than me. I've never been able to manipulate people quite as well as him, something that David Koresh and Jim Jones, or that bloke from Heaven's Gate could.
 
Ah yes, you already explained why it wasn't you. :Wink :wink (You were joking right?)

As to your second point, Rossi is called the "Doctor", there is a member here that actually is a doctor. Rossi is no doubt very intelligent, I concede far more intelligent than me. I've never been able to manipulate people quite as well as him, something that David Koresh and Jim Jones, or that bloke from Heaven's Gate could.

You can joke about hookers and gift cards all you want, if it makes you feel better.

So you equate Rossi's manipulation of various entities to the level of Koresh or the Heaven's Gate guy??
 
You can joke about hookers and gift cards all you want, if it makes you feel better.

So you equate Rossi's manipulation of various entities to the level of Koresh or the Heaven's Gate guy??

It does actually make me feel better, thanks.

Answer to your question: no. Rossi hasn't asked you guys,to commit suicide.
 
It does actually make me feel better, thanks.

Answer to your question: no. Rossi hasn't asked you guys,to commit suicide.

I'm glad to hear that.

And also, I'm a Rossi fan, not a cult member. I don't own a single item that has his name/number on it.
 
Emotional investment doesn't need to be linked to material merchandise.

Look at "The Worst". You'd swear blind he as trying to plead for his life and over what? All to defend some guy who doesn't even know he exists, and wouldn't give two ..... about him if he did.
 
Emotional investment doesn't need to be linked to material merchandise.

Look at "The Worst". You'd swear blind he as trying to plead for his life and over what? All to defend some guy who doesn't even know he exists, and wouldn't give two ..... about him if he did.

Fair enough, but there are quite a few members here who do the EXACT same thing in reverse. So you'd have to say they are extremely emotionally invested in countering said defense of Rossi.
 
Do they carry on like an ....., claiming to have slithered around the forum for ages using many different usernames, then vow to shut down the site after the race at Jerez?
Is that not grossly irrational behaviour because your views on Rossi weren't universally accepted?
 
Do they carry on like an ....., claiming to have slithered around the forum for ages using many different usernames, then vow to shut down the site after the race at Jerez?
Is that not grossly irrational behaviour because your views on Rossi weren't universally accepted?

Yam, I vowed to shut down the site because a few vicious characters were threatening to somehow expose to the entire universe that I was a "gift card pervert." It had nothing to do with the fact that my views on Rossi weren't accepted by all.

Back to your first point: It became pure bedlam in here for a few days after I made those bopperish posts, and I think I got caught up in the foolishness. Honestly, if someone said you deserved to be beaten into a coma for something you said on a motorcycle forum, you might be so inclined to troll the place for a bit.
 
Yam, I vowed to shut down the site because a few vicious characters were threatening to somehow expose to the entire universe that I was a "gift card pervert." It had nothing to do with the fact that my views on Rossi weren't accepted by all.



Back to your first point: It became pure bedlam in here for a few days after I made those bopperish posts, and I think I got caught up in the foolishness. Honestly, if someone said you deserved to be beaten into a coma for something you said on a motorcycle forum, you might be so inclined to troll the place for a bit.



No, absolutely not. Why ruin a site for ONE person supposedly. I've never trolled a site full stop and don't intend to start now. If you behave like an ....., be prepared to be treated like one, instead of the vengeful, evil, self congratulating genius you claimed to be.
If you had an ounce of common decency you'd have not made those threats and actions and simply taken your complaint to duc if you felt you had a genuine grievance. Be well aware you'd done quite enough abusing of forum members for not agreeing with your views before the gift card pervert was unveiled, it was probably your actions that prompted the investigation of your details in the first place.
Each and every time you signed up, whatever username and email address you've used, you received a message from duc welcoming you to the forum and telling you to go to him with anything you require help with. You should have done that and not carried on like you did.
Now forum members look on you with scorn and mistrust, there's no need for that, there are Rossi fans on here who are longstanding valued members. Pity because when you're not behaving like a .... you can be quite witty. You've got a long road ahead before earning any trust and plenty of bridges to build.
Best get those spanners out...
Good luck.
By the way, this post is meant without malice and with genuine good intentions, please don't take offence and see it as insulting or condescending.
 
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Could you not even the show the decency to acknowledge that you read my reply, seeing as you asked the question tp?
Or is it another one you prefer to drop out of sight now it no longer suits your narrative?
Trolling is bs with no excuses...
 
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No, absolutely not. Why ruin a site for ONE person supposedly. I've never trolled a site full stop and don't intend to start now. If you behave like an ....., be prepared to be treated like one, instead of the vengeful, evil, self congratulating genius you claimed to be.
If you had an ounce of common decency you'd have not made those threats and actions and simply taken your complaint to duc if you felt you had a genuine grievance. Be well aware you'd done quite enough abusing of forum members for not agreeing with your views before the gift card pervert was unveiled, it was probably your actions that prompted the investigation of your details in the first place.
Each and every time you signed up, whatever username and email address you've used, you received a message from duc welcoming you to the forum and telling you to go to him with anything you require help with. You should have done that and not carried on like you did.
Now forum members look on you with scorn and mistrust, there's no need for that, there are Rossi fans on here who are longstanding valued members. Pity because when you're not behaving like a .... you can be quite witty. You've got a long road ahead before earning any trust and plenty of bridges to build.
Best get those spanners out...
Good luck.
By the way, this post is meant without malice and with genuine good intentions, please don't take offence and see it as insulting or condescending.

Ok first of all, it's taken me a bit of time to compose a proper response. Wasn't ignoring your post. So, I haven't been slithering around the forum for ages, I've only had this one screen name. When I was having issues with two members, I didn't really think of it as a "real" problem. Just as I certainly wasn't going to fly across the world to challenge each to an old fashioned pistol duel, I didn't really think they were coming to beat me into a coma. So I just went along with their antics, with my own. I certainly wasn't going to launch an offensive cyberattack on the place.

One thing I would ask you to keep in mind is this. Coming into the sport as late as I have, has kept me from knowing all the back story of Rossi. So when I got here, all I saw was an amazingly offensive attack on my favorite rider. And to be honest, you can say what you want about me, but many of you posted scathing and down right degrading responses to many members replies. It wasn't simply pointing out the facts, it was pointing them out in a rather demeaning way because of your ill regard of Rossi. You have to take into account that to a new person, this place looks like a pretty hostile place from the outside. If you refuse to accept that, then I would say that's equal to me trolling in the beginning. I now have heard all the back story of Rossi, and understand why you feel the way you do. I don't agree with it entirely, but I respect the way you feel. So going forward I shall respond with that in mind.

In any event, I'm calming down quite a bit, and enjoying hearing about the things of the past era, current era, etc. As to building bridges, I suppose most people here will never "warm up" to me, which is what it is. I'll do my best...
 
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Ok first of all, it's taken me a bit of time to compose a proper response. Wasn't ignoring your post. So, I haven't been slithering around the forum for ages, I've only had this one screen name. When I was having issues with two members, I didn't really think of it as a "real" problem. Just as I certainly wasn't going to fly across the world to challenge each to an old fashioned pistol duel, I didn't really think they were coming to beat me into a coma. So I just went along with their antics, with my own. I certainly wasn't going to launch an offensive cyberattack on the place.

One thing I would ask you to keep in mind is this. Coming into the sport as late as I have, has kept me from knowing all the back story of Rossi. So when I got here, all I saw was an amazingly offensive attack on my favorite rider. And to be honest, you can say what you want about me, but many of you posted scathing and down right degrading responses to many members replies. It wasn't simply pointing out the facts, it was pointing them out in a rather demeaning way because of your ill regard of Rossi. You have to take into account that to a new person, this place looks like a pretty hostile place from the outside. If you refuse to accept that, then I would say that's equal to me trolling in the beginning. I now have heard all the back story of Rossi, and understand why you feel the way you do. I don't agree with it entirely, but I respect the way you feel. So going forward I shall respond with that in mind.

In any event, I'm calming down quite a bit, and enjoying hearing about the things of the past era, current era, etc. As to building bridges, I suppose most people here will never "warm up" to me, which is what it is. I'll do my best...



So you're lying now or the first time? Seeing as you've not slithered around the forum before why should you say the following?

Post #262 of the Rossi and Marquez relationship thread and you claim to have navigated these waters for many a time...

Rossi says relationship with Marquez “can never be recovered”






And you consider yourself the master of prose, filled with charm and wit??? Please...





I've been navigating these waters for a long long, time.
http://motogpforum.com/showthread.php?p=406491

Once again instead of holding your hand up and saying 'fair enough I was wrong" you choose to lie.

Tps, if you've really changed your tune and decided you want to be a decent forum member, fine.
Remember though, liars get caught...
 
So you're lying now or the first time? Seeing as you've not slithered around the forum before why should you say the following?

Post #262 of the Rossi and Marquez relationship thread and you claim to have navigated these waters for many a time...

Rossi says relationship with Marquez “can never be recovered”






And you consider yourself the master of prose, filled with charm and wit??? Please...





I've been navigating these waters for a long long, time.
Rossi says relationship with Marquez “can never be recovered” - Page 27 - MotoGP Forum

Once again instead of holding your hand up and saying 'fair enough I was wrong" you choose to lie.

Tps, if you've really changed your tune and decided you want to be a decent forum member, fine.
Remember though, liars get caught...

as I mentioned to you, I was trolling in the beginning. Just like when I said I was going to take down the forum.

So I'm not sure how I am lying now?

I told you I've chilled out but it seems like you're still trying to demonize me for whatever reason.
 
I was just reacting to your claim not to have been around the forum that's all buddy, just pointing out that whatever you say or anyone else, me included, they will get caught out later if it's disputed.
As I've said if you're done being stupid all is well.
Even in my post to you I sincerely wished you well. Why should I do that if I wish to demonise you?
 
I was just reacting to your claim not to have been around the forum that's all buddy, just pointing out that whatever you say or anyone else, me included, they will get caught out later if it's disputed.
As I've said if you're done being stupid all is well.
Even in my post to you I sincerely wished you well. Why should I do that if I wish to demonise you?

Well just for the record, I lied when I said I've been slithering around the forum for years. I was trolling because I was under HEAVY attack from virtual every corner of this forum, lol. :p

Ok, now back to the business of motogp... :cool:
 
Ok first of all, it's taken me a bit of time to compose a proper response. Wasn't ignoring your post. So, I haven't been slithering around the forum for ages, I've only had this one screen name. When I was having issues with two members, I didn't really think of it as a "real" problem. Just as I certainly wasn't going to fly across the world to challenge each to an old fashioned pistol duel, I didn't really think they were coming to beat me into a coma. So I just went along with their antics, with my own. I certainly wasn't going to launch an offensive cyberattack on the place.

One thing I would ask you to keep in mind is this. Coming into the sport as late as I have, has kept me from knowing all the back story of Rossi. So when I got here, all I saw was an amazingly offensive attack on my favorite rider. And to be honest, you can say what you want about me, but many of you posted scathing and down right degrading responses to many members replies. It wasn't simply pointing out the facts, it was pointing them out in a rather demeaning way because of your ill regard of Rossi. You have to take into account that to a new person, this place looks like a pretty hostile place from the outside. If you refuse to accept that, then I would say that's equal to me trolling in the beginning. I now have heard all the back story of Rossi, and understand why you feel the way you do. I don't agree with it entirely, but I respect the way you feel. So going forward I shall respond with that in mind.

In any event, I'm calming down quite a bit, and enjoying hearing about the things of the past era, current era, etc. As to building bridges, I suppose most people here will never "warm up" to me, which is what it is. I'll do my best...

Aaaaahhh. He´s growing up.
 
In any event, I'm calming down quite a bit, and enjoying hearing about the things of the past era, current era, etc. As to building bridges, I suppose most people here will never "warm up" to me, which is what it is. I'll do my best...

Don't underestimate this forum, I've seen all kinds of crazy .... happen throughout the years. A genuine attempt a conciliation goes a long way, even apologize if you feel you need to, it's not a shame, to the contrary, people respect that. Though don't expect apologies in return, not all of us think we've done wrong (right or wrong). This is why it takes thick skin to stick around, i admit I'm way more ....... than nice guy.

Don't take .... to heart. Those that do, few will last. You'll also have to accept you may never be friends with everyone. Also, the enemy of your friend doesn't always mean they are your enemy too. Accept it, move on. Regarding racing discussion, frankly a bit of adversity is good to keep the discussions lively. There is a wealth of information, humor, inspiration here, there is also a wealth of ...., roll with it.
 
Aaaaahhh. He´s growing up.

I realize it may appear otherwise, but i'm not an unreasonable person. I was just hit with a ton of information at once, none of which I had been exposed to before. On top of this, I had a few wild dogs calling me every name in the book. Please note, I make no claim of innocence on my part in regards to said treatment, lol.

Everything I had previously been exposed to regarding Rossi had been positive. I actually got interested in racing by watching Ben Spies in AMA. A friend told me that there was this "amazing talent" in GP and i should definitely watch.

As I mentioned, I've read some things that make me think twice about Rossi's legacy, and I've read other things that I don't buy into. i think that's part of what makes life interesting, no?

One final note. I think one of the things that fueled my trolling was the ferocious nature of the hatred against Rossi. While some members calmly pointed out why they felt Rossi was not as good as people think, other people called him a vile monster comparable to Stalin. When you make your arguments with such emotional hatred, it makes them seem less based in fact, even if they indeed are. Just my opinion.
 
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Don't underestimate this forum, I've seen all kinds of crazy .... happen throughout the years. A genuine attempt a conciliation goes a long way, even apologize if you feel you need to, it's not a shame, to the contrary, people respect that. Though don't expect apologies in return, not all of us think we've done wrong (right or wrong). This is why it takes thick skin to stick around, i admit I'm way more ....... than nice guy.

Don't take .... to heart. Those that do, few will last. You'll also have to accept you may never be friends with everyone. Also, the enemy of your friend doesn't always mean they are your enemy too. Accept it, move on. Regarding racing discussion, frankly a bit of adversity is good to keep the discussions lively. There is a wealth of information, humor, inspiration here, there is also a wealth of ...., roll with it.

I think he is coming along. Like most Rossi fans, he is a victim of his upbringing. If all you ever hear is lies and half truths, thats what you tend to believe. After a little schoolin, his eyes have been opened to the real world of GP. We will see. At one time, i drank the yellow cool aid, never to bopper levels, but drank it nonetheless. I was one who admired the rider, loathed the fans for the way they treated Nicky and then Casey. After 2007, i saw the real Rossi and started really paying attention to the machinations involving him and Dorna and to say the least, it was a real eye opener who he really was once a couple of riders appeared on the scene who could challenge him. Now i loath him, the majority of his fans and Dorna.
 

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