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Rossi says relationship with Marquez “can never be recovered”

It's like you've been living in North Korea and finally are understanding that the world outside is not the Devil.

Just a bit of advice, if you're new to something it's never a good idea to think your an overnight expert with the only correct answers. With experience comes at least a little bit of credibility to one's statements and beliefs. Even if the statements/beliefs are still flawed...
 
It's like you've been living in North Korea and finally are understanding that the world outside is not the Devil.

Just a bit of advice, if you're new to something it's never a good idea to think your an overnight expert with the only correct answers. With experience comes at least a little bit of credibility to one's statements and beliefs. Even if the statements/beliefs are still flawed...

Hmmm I think it's more like finding out that Santa isn't real...:p
 
Well just for the record, I lied when I said I've been slithering around the forum for years. I was trolling because I was under HEAVY attack from virtual every corner of this forum, lol. :p

Ok, now back to the business of motogp... :cool:


.... off with the weight jokes ok :p :D


I can't help being underheight for my weight
 
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I realize it may appear otherwise, but i'm not an unreasonable person. I was just hit with a ton of information at once, none of which I had been exposed to before. On top of this, I had a few wild dogs calling me every name in the book. Please note, I make no claim of innocence on my part in regards to said treatment, lol.

Everything I had previously been exposed to regarding Rossi had been positive. I actually got interested in racing by watching Ben Spies in AMA. A friend told me that there was this "amazing talent" in GP and i should definitely watch.

As I mentioned, I've read some things that make me think twice about Rossi's legacy, and I've read other things that I don't buy into. i think that's part of what makes life interesting, no?

One final note. I think one of the things that fueled my trolling was the ferocious nature of the hatred against Rossi. While some members calmly pointed out why they felt Rossi was not as good as people think, other people called him a vile monster comparable to Stalin. When you make your arguments with such emotional hatred, it makes them seem less based in fact, even if they indeed are. Just my opinion.


Perhaps the combination of being obnoxiously opinionated and admittedly ignorant is worthy of study?


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Aaaaahhh. He´s growing up.

Does that mean he's not going to get beat into that coma now?, and the 'several' death threats have been postponed?,also is he still coming down here to 'snuff me out'?, and will i still be steamrollered into his driveway so his dog [which he hasn't got yet] can .... on my face everyday?, i need answers cos all this aggro is keeping me awake at nights.
 
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What a group of self-righteous virgins. Admirable. I would have loved racing in your gentlemen clubs. :)

Want to be reminded of reality? I'll oblige one last time.

Yes, Marquez intentionally raced against Rossi out of resentment and personal rivalry, and of course the Spaniards avoided racing Lorenzo hard in the final race to make sure a Spaniard won the title (not that Lorenzo really needed it, but then he didn't have to worry about them either, which helps).

Nothing new under the sun actually. Some Italians did the same with Dutch racer Spaan at PI in 1990, to help young Capirossi secure his first title (Spaan's angry ... at Gresini's helmet was recorded and is now on YouTube -
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Note that the one playing .... was Gresini there; the punch was just an exasperated Spaan running out of patience. But of course it was Spaan who "broke" the rules...

Those who are just a little older here and have seen enough racing know very well that targeting other riders in a personal way has always been happening, for a variety of reasons. When entire parts of the tracks were not even covered by any camera, one could see riders elbowing and pushing each other around without restraint during close racing.

Now it is more delicate, because at the top level there are cameras everywhere, even (literally) on riders' ..... and noses, so everything gets recorded. But one can still do a lot without formally breaking any rules. The devil is always in the details.

Rossi himself, although he's not a dangerous rider, has a bag full of tricks and hard tactics; that's why he should have kept quiet and focused on being fast, while keeping his own nerves under check.

That's reality.
Amen.


Excellent post, as usual.
 
Excellent post, as usual.

I like J4rn0's posts as well, but we all have our biases.

MM having "intentionally raced against Rossi" whether from motives of "resentment and personal rivalry" or any other motives is hardly the most egregious transgression ever committed by a rider in GP bike racing history, and Valentino would seem to have exhibited a certain amount of resentment himself, both by his actions in the Sepang race and in frequent statements to the media since.
 
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Move along please, plenty of risky moves have taken place since Rossi's last infraction, why don't you concentrate on those Barry?
 
Move along please, plenty of risky moves have taken place since Rossi's last infraction, why don't you concentrate on those Barry?

Rossi is by historical record probably the safest rider in GP racing history. I think a single fractured ankle is the only significant injury to another rider attributable to error or transgression of his.

Barry is correct he was a petulant prick at the end of season 2015 however, and the Sepang thing involved some potential danger, and that there were no adverse consequences injury-wise was not in Rossi's control.
 
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Move along please, plenty of risky moves have taken place since Rossi's last infraction, why don't you concentrate on those Barry?

How many incidents of a rider not being able to win by his riding technique so resorting to dangerous riding have you seen lately?

Thats rossis modus operandi and its pathetic. Why cant he concentrate on riding like he did in Argentina? No spatty idiotic dangerous moves.
 
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Rossi is by historical record probably the safest rider in GP racing history. I think a single fractured ankle is the only significant injury to another rider attributable to error or transgression of his.

Barry is correct he was a petulant prick at the end of season 2015 however, and the Sepang thing involved some potential danger, and that there were no adverse consequences injury-wise was not in Rossi's control.
Hahaha!!

How can you say someone who kicked another rider off is the safest rider in go history? Come off it.

Agree some of the other riders aren't squeaky clean, but their actions aren't deliberate
 
Hahaha!!

How can you say someone who kicked another rider off is the safest rider in go history? Come off it.

Agree some of the other riders aren't squeaky clean, but their actions aren't deliberate

I am hardly a fan these days, but it is a fact that in all the races he has started he has only caused one significant injury to another rider. He has pulled two unequivocally dirty moves of which I am aware in the premier class. He has imo probably been saved from a serious collision once and possibly twice by the actions of Casey Stoner after making riding errors though.
 
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