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Sachsenring Grand Prix Warm up and Quali

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Jul 13 2008, 02:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>MichaelM, I agree with you and I've always said that Casey needs some mellow. I originally posted on Crash.net (which is down at present) that I considered Nicki to be the ideal teammate for Casey so he can teach him mellow and cool. This was some time ago.

I don't demand anyone like Stoner, but hate because he is a prat and not because he can't ride or is a cheat. If you want someone to argue the merits of the bike, get Marco or Elias to do it, it really isn’t a great argument.

As for this weekend I would nearly put my money on Dani, won last year, is improving in the wet which it may be, he set a multitude of fast laps in FP3 and qualifying and seems to have recovered his confidence quicker than Casey after his off.
These are reasonable points.

This forum has fortunately not yet degenerated to the extent that the crashnet one has, and most of the long term posters on here are passionate and knowledgeable fans prepared to give credit where it is due. You can't really blame anyone who has followed the sport for the past 12 or so years for being a rossi fan, or for being upset by some of the fairly silly criticism of him.

As for casey's crash, I think what he does with the ducati involves pushing the limits of its performance very hard and requires absolute confidence in the bike, and a big crash very likely does take the cutting edge away from his riding. I also wonder whether ducati with their artisanal approach always give him a number 2 bike which is as good as his number one bike. Along this line of enquiry, I wonder which bike sete gibernau actually tested, a casey bike, a marco bike or a generic ducati?

By the way, and this is completely irrelevant, you might like to tell them on crashnet that growth hormone whether high due to intrinsic pathology or externally administered does not cause disproportionate growth of extremities or jaw(cf tour de france) until adulthood when the epiphyses have closed, and ian thorpe has had huge feet from at least his early teens
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 13 2008, 09:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Surely he could have at least won the Postie bike sheep shag championships before retiring to the easy life of GP.

Isn't the Duc. a postie!!??

It all the other Duc. riders are riding it as such!

Its just Casey wants to get home earlier from his postie run to play with Adrianna.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 12 2008, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Read the post numpty, Stoner gets plenty of respect from me, but facts are facts. His personality is hardly Rossi or Sheene. Thats the point I'm making.

Read again and google the big words if you have to.

Pete
Who gives a .... about their persona.Its not like you or I are hanging with them during their off time.I just never cared for the clown act and chicken suits,riding the .... out of a bike is good enough for me.Some people are clowns, some are conservative and quite.I prefer the latter.Not Pauley Shore on a bike.
 
rossi does the lamest things and people think its entertaining.

also he talks like hes got a rod stuck up his ....

its a bit like in tennis how some players kick the tennis ball or say one word and the whole audience laughs and applaudes oh .... is it really that boring?
 
I think there is a reason some people can get away with behaviour or words that would be considered lame if others were responsible; it is called style.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Jul 13 2008, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Basspete

What I have difficulty with is that every team is trying to set their bike up to go fastest, when it is one you don’t want who does it best that becomes cheating.

Casey is not unique, nor is Ducati, they are in a competition, and ergo, they compete.

Quoting Mick Doohan replying acerbically to the English press back in the 90’s
“What do you want me to do, slow down?”

Most of us Stoner fans and especially me believe Valentino is the ducks nuts, he is a great rider and has shown himself to be supremely skilled and adaptable, but it wasn’t going to last forever.

As for the sheep shagging competition I loved that. I think Australia has produced enough motorcycling champions to show that if riders from Scotland came over here and raced in the prestigious sheep shagging events you might end up with a Scottish rider to support, you know a “home team”. Whatever you do over there to produce riders isn’t working, buy some sheep and copy the model.

Hang on, let me guess how it works, you hold the popularity content first and then give them the bike AND place in the Haggis Cup (it mings so block your nose), it explains how mystical real racing is to you, and the list of Scottish greats starting with….um….starting with… (Did you have anyone after Hislop?) well, you get the picture.

Hail the sheep daggers,
Baylis 2 x WSBK
Corser 2 x WSBK
Vermuellan 1 x WSSP
Pitt 1 x WSSP
Doohan 5 x 500GP
Muggeridge 1 x WSSP

Plus Mladin (multiple AMA champ), Shane Watts (ISDE outright, GNCC and multiple sheep dagging events), Chad reed current US SX and world SX champ

I haven't even mentioned our flat trackers or speedway guys who also kick butt, and from whose ranks Casey was "chosen"

Stoner Current King of the sheep shaggers

Baaaaaa you .....


Wait a minute....do you have a sense of humour??????????? I like that, makes it more fun. And youre a Doohan fan, good on ya, I have been and still am a huge fan of the guy.

Interesting that the only Scottish rider you have heard of is Hizzy, a great rider, but hardly known for his cheery persona. Must be an Aussie thing. Thats an impressive set of stats you have put up there, I wont argue with most of that. But I do remember Mladin getting his arse kicked by Niall Mackenzie when he was in GP. and I thought Shane Watts was a Kiwi.

I will put my hands up, weve not had a Scottish world bike racing champ since Jock Taylor, but considering theres more Aussies working in bars in London than the whole population of Scotland, I think weve got a bit of leeway.


The end of your post does worry me, you proclaim Stoner as king of the sheep shaggers, then sign off with a "BAAAA!" are you giving him the come on or what?

Pete
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 13 2008, 05:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who gives a .... about their persona.Its not like you or I are hanging with them during their off time.I just never cared for the clown act and chicken suits,riding the .... out of a bike is good enough for me.Some people are clowns, some are conservative and quite.I prefer the latter.Not Pauley Shore on a bike.


Nice considered, intelligent reply. Missed the point by a mile. What you think is hardly going to overturn the facts.

Pete
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 13 2008, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I will put my hands up, weve not had a Scottish world bike racing champ since Jock Taylor, but considering theres more Aussies working in bars in London than the whole population of Scotland, I think weve got a bit of leeway.
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I take it you don't even need to include the aussies drinking in those same bars. I actually drank in quite a few bars in edinburgh last year and thought it was a great place; murrayfield was bloody cold though even in september.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jul 13 2008, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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I take it you don't even need to include the aussies drinking in those same bars. I actually drank in quite a few bars in edinburgh last year and thought it was a great place; murrayfield was bloody cold though even in september.



Nope, the bar staff are enough mate! Edinburgh is a great place for a pint or 12, but as you quite rightly say, it's not known for it's tropical heat. Or heat full stop.

Pete
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 13 2008, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>still raining there?
if thats supposed to be a dig at our british rainy weather i guess you not really from the Faeroe Islands.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 13 2008, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>. and I thought Shane Watts was a Kiwi.
Pete

Shane Watts is from Maffra in Victoria, I raced against the guy in 94 and got my freckle handed to me on a plate (Kirk Hutton from our ISDE team was in the same race). That day was my epiphany where I realized I was not going to be a serious motorcycle racer. He is no Kiwi, although if he were a movie star or a musician (and a Kiwi) Australia would claim him (like Russell Crowe, Crowded House and the endless list of Kiwi “Aussies”)

Didn’t you like my baaaa, I thought it was a great end to the list of achievements of the great Aussie Sheep Shaggers. Everyone knows it’s New Zealand where men are men and sheep are nervous anyway.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 13 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>if thats supposed to be a dig at our british rainy weather i guess you not really from the Faeroe Islands.


jezus fucken christ. i cant even ask about the weather without an ulterior motive. i think i really have gotten in your head roger.

yes english weather is ...., but i truly want to know if it was still raining and the forecast for the race
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 13 2008, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>jezus fucken christ. i cant even ask about the weather without an ulterior motive. i think i really have gotten in your head roger.

yes english weather is ...., but i truly want to know if it was still raining and the forecast for the race
your not capable of getting into my head, don't flatter yourself
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Jul 13 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>jezus fucken christ. i cant even ask about the weather without an ulterior motive. i think i really have gotten in your head roger.

yes english weather is ...., but i truly want to know if it was still raining and the forecast for the race


If you haven’t noticed you got on everyone’s nerves here, many wish you will disappear!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Jul 13 2008, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Shane Watts is from Maffra in Victoria, I raced against the guy in 94 and got my freckle handed to me on a plate (Kirk Hutton from our ISDE team was in the same race). That day was my epiphany where I realized I was not going to be a serious motorcycle racer. He is no Kiwi, although if he were a movie star or a musician (and a Kiwi) Australia would claim him (like Russell Crowe, Crowded House and the endless list of Kiwi “Aussies”)

Didn’t you like my baaaa, I thought it was a great end to the list of achievements of the great Aussie Sheep Shaggers. Everyone knows it’s New Zealand where men are men and sheep are nervous anyway.

I think Basspete must have meant Merriman ...... I can see his cause for confusion ...... they are both enduro riders
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jul 13 2008, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Basspete must have meant Merriman ...... I can see his cause for confusion ...... they are both enduro riders
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Nah, I thought Watts was a Kiwi. The thing is, all the enduro riders look the same when they are behind Knighter.


And Roo, I didnt say I didnt like your Baa, I just asked if you were trying to chat casey up with it.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 13 2008, 04:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nice considered, intelligent reply. Missed the point by a mile. What you think is hardly going to overturn the facts.

Pete
And what you think is.
Rossi has been good for the sport of Moto Gp from a financial stand point.On the other hand,he drew a mindless fanbase that will surely go away when no one is around to entertain them in a chicken suit.I personally cant wait.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 13 2008, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And what you think is.
Rossi has been good for the sport of Moto Gp from a financial stand point.On the other hand,he drew a mindless fanbase that will surely go away when no one is around to entertain them in a chicken suit.I personally cant wait.

Expect a looong wait. We will have Rossi around for another two years, at least. The we got the copy cat Lorenzo and allready next year or the year after we'll get another commin up from 250. He got style and talent and allthough we havn't seen many gags yeat, Rossi is his big idol. That should keep us mindless cheerleaders happy for another 5 to 10 years, so don't hold your breath
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 13 2008, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And what you think is.
Rossi has been good for the sport of Moto Gp from a financial stand point.On the other hand,he drew a mindless fanbase that will surely go away when no one is around to entertain them in a chicken suit.I personally cant wait.


No you ...., I was stating the ....... facts.

Please learn to read before joining in grown up conversations. It would save a lot of embarressment.

Pete
 

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