Round 13: 2016 San Marino Grand Prix - Misano World Circuit Marco Simoncelli

evo9 · Sep 12, 2016

p4p1 said:
No you're the one that isn't seeing anything that is there plain to see for everyone not wearing yellow tinted glasses. He wasn't happy about the move but couldn't outright come out and say it so instead he made a few passive aggressive comments that went over your head.

To back you up on this. Dani did what he rossi did to Lorenzo a few laps earlier. The only way he can ..... about it is to say what he said. This is where motovudu is having a comprehension problem. Rossi has no problem roughing up other riders. He was not banking on it in the same race & lost at the same time. So sugar coat his complaint, to make Lorenzo the cry baby.

moto vudu · Sep 12, 2016

Jumkie said:
What I think he meant? Answer my question, why would he compare Pedrosa's overtaking to Marquez? Why when he had his exchange with Lorenzo did he summon Marquez's name? Really, I can't believe you're this blind and naive. Then again, you are a diehard Rossi fan.

Rossi: Pedrosa's overtaking was like Marquez.

Vudu: Rossi doesn't mean it was aggressive because he didn’t use the 'word' aggressive.

Holy .....

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

I swear the Rossi hating cult on this forum can't even keep their own BS arguments straight. Rossi compared Pedrosa's pass to Marquez because he felt Pedrosa attacked late in the corner. Rossi didn't say he had a problem with it and even said it was a GOOD overtake. GOOD does not equal "TOO AGGRESSIVE". Saying "Marquez" does not equal TOO AGGRESSIVE, especially when he went on to explain his reasoning for comparing Pedrosa's pass to Marquez.

It is you interpreting his words as though he stated Dani was too aggressive, but you're not wording it like it's YOUR OPINION, you're wording it like you know that's what Rossi meant or is really saying. You're full of .....

evo9 · Sep 12, 2016

Richy56 said:
Of course Dani and Rossi have good rapport, Dani has never won a championship against Rossi and therefore is not a threat.

Bottom line is Lorenzo rubs Rossi up cos he knows he is mentally vulnerable. he gets under his skin, I bet when Rossi went back to his motor home his was muttering .... about Lorenzo under his breath, I bet Lorenzo was chuckling.

Rossi is so tired after last year cos he brain was so frazzled by his meltdown he got insomnia. .... if Lorenzo wins on the duc, Rossi will be in a padded room by the end of next year.

This is exactly what I thought when I read this "Rossi/Lorenzo in post-race verbal spat" I figure Lorenzo is on a .... with him to the end of his contract

JPSLotus · Sep 12, 2016

Remember when Rossi accused Marquez of the Phillip Island conspiracy last year at Sepang? He did his usual smile and ........ to sugarcoat what he was saying. He's done this for as long as he's been in the premier class. He gives backhanded compliments more than any rider I've ever seen.

Jumkie · Sep 12, 2016

moto vudu said:
I swear the Rossi hating cult on this forum can't even keep their own BS arguments straight. Rossi compared Pedrosa's pass to Marquez because he felt Pedrosa attacked late in the corner. Rossi didn't say he had a problem with it and even said it was a GOOD overtake. GOOD does not equal "TOO AGGRESSIVE". Saying Marquez does not equal TOO AGGRESSIVE, especially when it went on to explain his reasoning for comparing it Marquez.

It is you interpreting his words as though he stated Dani was too aggressive, but you're not wording it like it's YOUR OPINION, you're wording it like you know that's what Rossi meant or is really saying. You're full of .....

Pedrosa's overtaking was like the guy I hate the most in this universe.

Pedrosa's overtaking was like the guy who is dangerous, out of control, disrespectful, a cheating son of a ......

Pedrosa's overtaking was like the guy who robbed me and I still can't let it go.

Vudu: Rossi’s doesn't mean anything by comparing Dani's overtaking to the man he wishes would die a slow painful death, in fact he used the word "good". You see, Rossi loved that pass. He's gonna take a picture and frame it. Put up in his bedroom, with the caption, this was a fine overtaking pass, just like my pal Marc Marquez does to me.

Jesus Christ.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

moto vudu · Sep 12, 2016

Jumkie said:
Pedrosa's overtaking was like the guy I hate the most in this universe. - Your opinion being stated as if you're Rossi and know this for a fact.

Pedrosa's overtaking was like the guy who is dangerous, out of control, disrespectful, a cheating son of a ...... - Again, you're speaking for Rossi. None of those are his words, just words from a pathetic Rossi hater on a small internet forum most people will never hear of.

Pedrosa's overtaking was like the guy who robbed me and I still can't let it go. - More words from Jums, not Rossi.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

Maybe you should live in a glass house because it sounds like you've already been hit by a lot of rocks.

MiddayGun · Sep 12, 2016

I think this is being read into way to much.

Lets be honest, Dani is the guy that doesn't ruffle any feathers and is usually quite conservative in how he makes a pass.
But this race he was very uncharacteristically aggressive, and just stuck it up the inside in a very Marquezesque fashion, normally when someone gets passed in that manner by a Repsol it's gonna be Marquez, so its a fairly logical comparison to make.
IMHO at least.

In an aside, if Dani could bring this form every race then he'd probably be a multiple champion by now.

Richy56 · Sep 12, 2016

MiddayGun said:
I think this is being read into way to much.

Lets be honest, Dani is the guy that doesn't ruffle any feathers and is usually quite conservative in how he makes a pass.
But this race he was very uncharacteristically aggressive, and just stuck it up the inside in a very Marquezesque fashion, normally when someone gets passed in that manner by a Repsol it's gonna be Marquez, so its a fairly logical comparison to make.
IMHO at least.

In an aside, if Dani could bring this form every race then he'd probably be a multiple champion by now.

Seem to remember pedrosa being pretty good fun at Aragon last yr?

Rossi gave him a slap for that too. Because "he was not allowed to interfere with my championship". You don't hear Marquez winging like that when he was beaten by a satellite Honda never mind a bloke on a completely different machine

evo9 · Sep 12, 2016

MiddayGun said:
I think this is being read into way to much.

Lets be honest, Dani is the guy that doesn't ruffle any feathers and is usually quite conservative in how he makes a pass.
But this race he was very uncharacteristically aggressive, and just stuck it up the inside in a very Marquezesque fashion, normally when someone gets passed in that manner by a Repsol it's gonna be Marquez, so its a fairly logical comparison to make.
IMHO at least.

In an aside, if Dani could bring this form every race then he'd probably be a multiple champion by now.

You need to go back & watch some of Dani's races in recent years. He is one little fellow who is not afraid to get aggressive.

aaronl · Sep 12, 2016

Love to see Pedrosa do well again in Japan and Malaysia.

michaelm · Sep 12, 2016

moto vudu said:
I swear the Rossi hating cult on this forum can't even keep their own BS arguments straight. Rossi compared Pedrosa's pass to Marquez because he felt Pedrosa attacked late in the corner. Rossi didn't say he had a problem with it and even said it was a GOOD overtake. GOOD does not equal "TOO AGGRESSIVE". Saying "Marquez" does not equal TOO AGGRESSIVE, especially when he went on to explain his reasoning for comparing Pedrosa's pass to Marquez.

It is you interpreting his words as though he stated Dani was too aggressive, but you're not wording it like it's YOUR OPINION, you're wording it like you know that's what Rossi meant or is really saying. You're full of .....

Yes, the world of GP bike racing for the last 2 decades has been characterised by a cult of Rossi hatred. No other rider has ever been criticised, and particularly back in Rossi's prime any other rider who won a championship was immediately recognised as having won a championship fair and square.

The rider who foments hatred of other riders is Rossi, no-one else, and the people doing the hating are overwhelmingly Rossi fans, including soccer hooligan like booing of said riders on the podium, which has never previously been a feature of GP bike racing. That 5 people or so on this small corner of the internet are dissenters, even if they are over the top in their dissent, hardly gives the likes of you and our resident genius the moral high ground you constantly attempt to assume.

JKant · Sep 12, 2016

Top qualifiers (Rossi, Lorenzo, Vinales) on Pedrosa on Saturday. Rossi's comments in particular appear prescient (though perhaps even he would have been surprised by Dani's raw pace after he got comfortable).

https://vimeo.com/182467380

yamfan · Sep 12, 2016

aaronl said:
Love to see Pedrosa do well again in Japan and Malaysia.

Love to see all MM, DP, JL, VR and MV have a good race. The spectacle of all 5 going wheel to wheel for the entire race would be incredible, regardless who won.
I'd like to see Dorna give all riders their exact tyre preference each and let them go at it. It would be amazing to watch instead of the rather sterile races we're getting lately.
Ok we get the odd scuffle like in Britain, but with all riders comfortable and firing on all cylinders it would be great to watch.

Gaz · Sep 12, 2016

#22 said:
They were both overtakes...so they have that in common.

They were also in right hand corners with the overtaking rider to the right of the complainant.

Just pointing out more common traits.

Jumkie · Sep 12, 2016

JKant said:
Top qualifiers (Rossi, Lorenzo, Vinales) on Pedrosa on Saturday. Rossi's comments in particular appear prescient (though perhaps even he would have been surprised by Dani's raw pace after he got comfortable).

https://vimeo.com/182467380

Thanks again JKant. You're an excellent addition to our community, again reminds me of Geonerd's fantastic ability to isolate relevant video.

It was interesting to go back and listen to their assessments, given we know now that Pedrosa won in spectacular fashion. Rossi might even now give him a backhanded compliment and describe it as Pedrosa won like Marquez. Right Vudu?

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

Iamapony · Sep 12, 2016

Jumkie said:
Friend, I think you misread Arrabi's post, there was no ill intent. He wasn't correcting you or admonishing as much as he was simply providing some background regarding his own experience with Pedrosa.

I don't know about that. But, I do know that I responded in my particularly odd humorous way, thus indicating that I didn't take his response as an affront. There are issues so much more pressing for me that I keep my race-fanning discussions really light-hearted, if possible. Just remember, "don't call me, stupid". [A Fish Called Wanda]

JPSLotus · Sep 12, 2016

I'm always amused how the saltiest people on this forum are the Rossi fans who can't deal with their idol being criticized.

How is it, with all of the pro-Rossi websites and forums across the internet, and slanted media coverage in favor of Rossi, a place like this turns people like Vudu and Talpa into frothing-at-the-mouth lunatics?

Vudu, I really believe the reason you come here is because deep down inside the void that you call your soul, you know we are right about Rossi and everything we say. You should just give in and accept that which you already know to be true.

Gaz · Sep 12, 2016

JPSLotus said:
So with Pedrosa winning, this leaves just Tito Rabat as the lone Honda without a victory in 2016.

However, this will not be changing at all. He finished in his usual dead last yesterday.

Really baffles me how he still will be around for one more year on the Marc VDS.

Where is Harry when Tito needs him?

Arrabbiata1 said:
Speaking of watching it back Talpa, I urge you to find some of Nicky's rides that season and watch again, impartially and without prejudice because frankly your post is a tad rich given your sensitivities about Valentino and the amount of accusations you make about alleged 'haters' on here.

Not gonna happen, leopard and spots and all

yamfan · Sep 12, 2016

Totally off the subject, does any of you fine gentleman have the coverage of the 250LC support race featuring Niall McKenzie et al?
Sorry for going off topic guys.

moto vudu · Sep 12, 2016

JPSLotus said:
I'm always amused how the saltiest people on this forum are the Rossi fans who can't deal with their idol being criticized.

How is it, with all of the pro-Rossi websites and forums across the internet, and slanted media coverage in favor of Rossi, a place like this turns people like Vudu and Talpa into frothing-at-the-mouth lunatics?

Vudu, I really believe the reason you come here is because deep down inside the void that you call your soul, you know we are right about Rossi and everything we say. You should just give in and accept that which you already know to be true.

If you want to troll a response from me, try harder! Be creative. You're a grown man living in a basement, come up with something that will make me want to engage in a conversation with you.

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