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Rossi put one hard pass on jlo and he (and all of you) have a fit.
Boy. I wonder how jlo would have reacted if Rossi put 7 or 8 hard passes on him on this single lap?
Hey buddy, point out who has said the pass was outside acceptable hard racing please. I have read anyone having a fit about it but rather commenting on Lorenzo's response to a journalist question and the disagreement of opinion that ensued between him and Rossi. I don't think I read someone here having a fit about Rossi’s move calling it outrageous.

Again, I think Lorenzo missed an opportunity to highlight Rossi's "fit" over less aggressive passes (7-8 cleaner passes) at Sepang last year. Not to mention the cleaner passes Rossi had a "fit" about Philip Island which he INITIALED the complaint at the next event's press conference.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
 
Rossi put one hard pass on jlo and he (and ALL of you) have a fit.
Boy. I wonder how jlo would have reacted if Rossi put 7 or 8 hard passes on him on this single lap?
Really?..


I don't have a problem with the move myself, granted I'm not the one out there. But this was not a rare variety of passing seen throughout the field at any given GP, though it was on the side of the aggressive spectrum, but within acceptable.
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If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
 
Hey buddy, point out who has said the pass was outside acceptable hard racing please. I have read anyone having a fit about it but rather commenting on Lorenzo's response to a journalist question and the disagreement of opinion that ensued between him and Rossi. I don't think I read someone here having a fit about Rossi’s move calling it outrageous.

Again, I think Lorenzo missed an opportunity to highlight Rossi's "fit" over less aggressive passes (7-8 cleaner passes) at Sepang last year. Not to mention the cleaner passes Rossi had a "fit" about Philip Island which he INITIALED the complaint at the next event's press conference.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.

Lorenzo chose to claim Rossi always makes bad passes and that's what kicked off the little argument between the two. IMO it has really been exaggerated for drama because nothing they said to each other was really all that bad or unprofessional... it was just a little spat that's being drawn out for entertainment.

Lorenzo should've taken Rossi's advice and watched the pass on the tv to see if he still feels it was too aggressive.
 
He has the same english accent as steven hawking.
Plus they both ride the wheels of their machines. To be fair, Hawkings probably wouldn't need to cheat on a test though. I understand he's something of a genius. Though from the looks of it, Pedro is probably more proficient on his wheels.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
 
To name but two people, plus myself, who didn't have a fit at the pass.[/QUOTE

Granted I don't have the time to read every single word on this forum. But most seem to be drudging up old reasons why they hate Rossi. Resurrected again by this one pass.

Just thank your lucky stars he's racing. Otherwise what would you talk about? I was looking at the Wsbk threads. The longest one (recently) is about 120 posts. Most well below that. There's some good racing in Wsbk yet all this forum gets is Rossi This Rossi that.

You guys wish he'd go away but if he did I imagine the threads on this forum would average about 20-30 posts per.
 
Lorenzo chose to claim Rossi always makes bad passes and that's what kicked off the little argument between the two. IMO it has really been exaggerated for drama because nothing they said to each other was really all that bad or unprofessional... it was just a little spat that's being drawn out for entertainment.

Lorenzo should've taken Rossi's advice and watched the pass on the tv to see if he still feels it was too aggressive.
Lorenzo said it was Rossi’s style to pass more aggressive.

Agree, mountain from mole hill.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
 
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To name but two people, plus myself, who didn't have a fit at the pass.[/QUOTE

Just thank your lucky stars he's racing. Otherwise what would you talk about? I was looking at the Wsbk threads. The longest one (recently) is about 120 posts. Most well below that. There's some good racing in Wsbk yet all this forum gets is Rossi This Rossi that.

You guys wish he'd go away but if he did I imagine the threads on this forum would average about 20-30 posts per.

I remember the sport before Rossi and there was plenty to debate. Having said that, the internet was barely a twinkle in the eye of Tim Berners Lee during the golden age so you did all your talking over a beer and in person or at the racetrack.

I'm glad Rossi's still competitive and racing although I won't miss his largely mindless minions. However, the sport will certainly miss the revenue when they all desert and find another glory hunting bandwagon to contaminate.

Regarding WSB - start a thread, I'll see you there.
 
The Pedrobot moniker originated in 2006 and owes much to his perceived lack of personality and HRC conditioning. His apparent awkwardness and race face/ circuit persona belies his true character and reputedly has a very dry sense of humour. His spoken English is impeccable. I can also testify to this having quizzed him at Laguna in 2010 about the RCV211 and his preferences in respect of the 800cc and 990 formulas.
OMG, am I being corrected? Well, it's ....-bot, because Pedobot is funnier than Pedrobot. "Shy" or "lack of personality". I said it nice. Others say things not so nicely. Impeccable English? Not in my personal experience nor from the videos. But I ain't got no good English. I go California schools. My ebonics is ...., though.
He has the same english accent as steven hawking.
lol
..... Hawkings probably wouldn't need to cheat on a test though. I understand he's something of a genius. ......
The Yachtsman test...... Oh man, how embarrassing was that. Too funny.
 
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OMG, am I being corrected? Well, it's ....-bot, because Pedobot is funnier than Pedrobot. "Shy" or "lack of personality". I said it nice. Others say things not so nicely. Impeccable English? Not in my personal experience nor from the videos. But I ain't got no good English. I go California schools. My ebonics is ...., though.

lol

Friend, I think you misread Arrabi's post, there was no ill intent. He wasn't correcting you or admonishing as much as he was simply providing some background regarding his own experience with Pedrosa.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
 
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Having said that, the internet was barely a twinkle in the eye of Tim Berners Lee..

What? Wait. So the Internet wasn't invented by MT1960 AKA KiddyK?

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If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
 
So with Pedrosa winning, this leaves just Tito Rabat as the lone Honda without a victory in 2016.

However, this will not be changing at all. He finished in his usual dead last yesterday.

Really baffles me how he still will be around for one more year on the Marc VDS.
 
well I am going to probably be mocked for this but luckily we are all entitled to our opinion. At Phillip Island a few years ago, my brother and nephew saw Lorenzo and my nephew who was a huge fan of Lorenzo (he was 8 at the time) yelled out excitedly as a kid does and went to run to him and before my brother could step in and grab him, security blocked him. Which wasnt a problem as that what security is there for, but when my nephew asked for a autograph Lorenzo just stared and said something in Spanish to one of the people he was with and then walked off with security and the people he was with.

I dont think he's arrogant or self entitled as i dont even know him - and i also get it would be quite exhausting constantly having fans mob him. however when you have an 8 year old boy in a lorenzo shirt asking for an autograph - sure, you dont have to give one but he could of at least acknowledged him with a smile instead of a death stare and then ignore him.

and yes - im sure Rossi and many other riders have done similar but for me personally, I just dont like Lorenzo after that because of how upset my nephew was. Yes kids are annoying at times and I know my nephew was in the wrong but still I found it harsh. And that's just my opinion and how I feel

Children running to touch grownups.... Are you sure that wasn't in Thailand?
 
That hayseed has to be the most underwhelm and undeserving champion in MotoGP history. For the type of machinery he rode his total results were a joke.

C'mon Talps, that's a ridiculous post - particularly given the utter farce that was 2002. Saying that, there are no 'undeserving' champions (well, maybe with the exception of 2001, 2002 and 2009). A degree of providence, perhaps, and Luccchinelli for one wasn't christened 'lucky' for nothing. Hayden won that championship through consistency on the EVO RCV saddled throughout with testing internals destined for the Pedrocycle. Nonetheless, it was a great motorcycle - (we can debate the technical details if you wish) -although the plan, or should I say, expectation, was for Pedrosa to secure the championship in his maiden year and the skewed support at HRC was very reflective of that.

Vale arrived at Valencia leading Nicky by eight points, the championship was his to lose remember. To Nick, the chips were down and as his leathers read - 'all in'. Sure, Rossi's season had been dogged by ill fate and bad luck, including a wrong direction in chassis development by Yamaha and several tyre failures which raised wry smiles amongst the satellite riders who were often hampered by the lottery of different spec tyres over a weekend or a mismatch combination of different spec rubber. Interestingly, it is your mate Casey who suspects that Valentino may have been dealt a bad hand. His relationship with Michelin was ailing and Stoner claims that the moment the flag dropped you could see that Rossi was in the ..... Something similar happened after the Materazzi stunt remember? Anyhow, Rossi had taken pole and had been fastest in all sessions, where Nicky languished fifth on the grid. The odds were seemingly stacked against him. Stoner believes Rossi was given a dud tyre. As one of six riders to pass him on the first lap he believes the bike was badly out of balance. From a riders perspective it was clear that the rear and front were not working together and the Rossi inexplicably low sided behind Stoner. Stoner famously opined after watching it back 'welcome to our world'.

Speaking of watching it back Talpa, I urge you to find some of Nicky's rides that season and watch again, impartially and without prejudice because frankly your post is a tad rich given your sensitivities about Valentino and the amount of accusations you make about alleged 'haters' on here.

Impeccable English? Not in my personal experience nor from the videos.

Then our experiences clearly differ.

What? Wait. So the Internet wasn't invented by MT1960 AKA KiddyK?

Careful, you'll upset Mike.

Really baffles me how he still will be around for one more year on the Marc VDS.

Apparently the team have repeatedly told him that the data shows he's running in too hot to corners, hence the amount of low sides. He never bonded with the 2015 Kalex and his title defence was appalling as a result. Since coming up he's seemingly simply not adapted his style. It's a great shame, particularly given his tireless work ethic.
 
One thing I have been thinking, all that end of season stuff was at considerable personal cost to both Rossi and Lorenzo, with reports Rossi broke up with his long term girlfriend in the off-season, and also Lorenzo who according to Libby pre-race whom I sure can be believed on the matter Lorenzo similarly broke up with his girlfriend. I think MM was also quite affronted/insulted, and was still maintaining pre-race he at least knows what his motives and actions were, but seems to be more the don't get mad, get even type.
I take it, MM didn't have a girlfriend at the time?
 
So with Pedrosa winning, this leaves just Tito Rabat as the lone Honda without a victory in 2016.

However, this will not be changing at all. He finished in his usual dead last yesterday.

Really baffles me how he still will be around for one more year on the Marc VDS.

I said before this year that he didn't deserve a ride and that the moto2 title he won was because all of the younger more talented riders who had beaten him in moto2 had moved up. He certainly doesn't deserve another year from what he has shown so far and VDS would've been better trying to get someone from moto2 or Laverty after it was made clear that he wouldn't be given another ride on a Ducati.

Actually now I think about it it would've been great if Laverty got the ride.
 
While the Rossi-Lorenzo spat has generated some discussion, the same question to Rossi in the post-race conference went overlooked.

Pedrosa and Rossi were asked their opinions on Pedrosa's (unnecessarily aggressive?) overtake move on Rossi.


https://vimeo.com/182452197

("Is a little bit Marc Marquez overtake no?" - Rossi)


Dani's a pretty lovable character. Appears to have a good rapport with Rossi.
 
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I said before this year that he didn't deserve a ride and that the moto2 title he won was because all of the younger more talented riders who had beaten him in moto2 had moved up. He certainly doesn't deserve another year from what he has shown so far and VDS would've been better trying to get someone from moto2 or Laverty after it was made clear that he wouldn't be given another ride on a Ducati.

Actually now I think about it it would've been great if Laverty got the ride.

I wonder if Laverty would have stayed had been offered the VDS ride. He may have left anyway, and not that I could blame him since riding around on second rate machinery isn't exactly the most enticing way to spend your year. The WSBK Aprilia has more potential than a satellite RCV.

I would have liked to have seen Takaaki Nakagami on the second VDS RCV. If Rabat looks subpar again in 2017, I could see Honda pushing to get him on a satellite RCV for 2018.
 
Tito is not an alien for sure. He always seems to work his way up. As Zarco and Rins are coming up to MotoGP next year, we'll see if he can really ride or not.
 
So with Pedrosa winning, this leaves just Tito Rabat as the lone Honda without a victory in 2016.

However, this will not be changing at all. He finished in his usual dead last yesterday.

Really baffles me how he still will be around for one more year on the Marc VDS.

Speaking of satellite teams...... Has any yamaha satellite teams won a motogp race from year 2000 on?? Always seems to be the not so great Hondas:rolleyes:
 

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