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MotoGP 2011: QATAR

Krop mentioned this on his website. Nick ever the company man won't say anything against who's paying the bills.



Nicky Hayden then contradicted what Vito Guareschi told MotoMatters.com yesterday about which chassis he was using. It was not a special chassis, he insisted, but merely a standard chassis with the headstock set a little looser to give it a little bit more flex. It certainly hadn't helped much, as Hayden is continuing to struggle to get the bike to work.



Is it a new chassis?



Engineers & Team Management: Oh yes, we worked tirelessly to re-engineer the head stock, and it has changed the chassis flex dynamics



Hayden: I'm still slow and the bike feels the same; therefore, all they did was tweak the headstock.



One group of people care about the work that went into making it. The other person cares mainly about the pace and the feel of the bike. Furthermore, Hayden rode an Evo at Honda. THAT was an entirely different bike. A headstock isn't going to strike him as special.
 
Im guessing that is tongue in cheek, but if its not.

Unless a gearbox can change the geometry of a chassis, they are pissing money down the drain. They have a lot more problems than a quick change gearbox.





You're right Povol.... such as their riders.
 
It might as well be 10th or 100th its that far off the pace and I don’t think that under stoner the duke ever qualified 9yh even in its worst days when stoner had the ..... with the offer that Jorge got a la interview…but bow the maestro is riding the duke ‘so what happened’???



This is the difference between Stoner and Rossi in QP:



2011: 1 - 27 Casey STONER - AUS - Repsol Honda Team Honda - 324.3 - 1'54.137

2007: 2 – 27 Casey STONER - AUS - Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati - 324.7 - 1'55.007

2011: 9 - 46 Valentino ROSSI - ITA - Ducati Team Ducati - 324.1 - 1'55.637





Its all the software Rossi plugs into it.



He needs to take a leaf from Stoners book and go "ala natural" or at least attempt to ride it like that.
 
Is it a new chassis?



Engineers & Team Management: Oh yes, we worked tirelessly to re-engineer the head stock, and it has changed the chassis flex dynamics



Hayden: I'm still slow and the bike feels the same; therefore, all they did was tweak the headstock.



One group of people care about the work that went into making it. The other person cares mainly about the pace and the feel of the bike. Furthermore, Hayden rode an Evo at Honda. THAT was an entirely different bike. A headstock isn't going to strike him as special.



You might be on to something there, Lex.
 
Arrabi, thanx for the sobering post. Im guilty of negativity. I should know better. I think i became bitter from the get go when i joined PS. Perhaps the only time if sublime relief was when Nicky won at Valencia. Then almost immediately all i read was discredit, wher i was set on a track MO that i hav never shed. My froth has always been directed at these detractors, as well as, the HRC dynamic at play while Nicky was there. Today, i feel im re-living the ladder part and honestly, it disheartening (yes, just racing, but its my hobby, so like all thise that hav one, its here wher i share, bicker, defend, and express my opinion, for good or bad).



For all those that hav left cuz of the bickering, i aplogize. Ive certainly been part of the prob. I cant promise i'll improve much, as old habits die hard. Especially when i so take racing to heart as much as im reminded in the scheme of life, its of no importance. Its prob an addiction, just like any other.



For what ever reason, PS exposes this side of me becuz in person i think im a better person. Mayb its becuz the Net offers a distance wher i fail to employ normal civil custom. Mayb its becuz i log on to PS to spew my opinions and frustrations as a passionate (fanatical) Hayden fan. Mayb its here wher i can talk about my opinions wher most peeps can understand what im saying regardless whether they agree/ disagree, (ther is relief in that). Ive been called an ....... many times here, 95% was deserved. Cant really say im gonna improve, as i may b venting much frustration this year as u can see from the current event thus far. But kniw that i appreciate ur candid chastice to all of us who bicker aimlessly.
 
Stoner looked like he was cruising compared to how he used to ride the Duc.



I think you may be better worrying about your favourite rider than Stoner ATM cos he did not look comfortable at all.

Completely the opposite, rossi looked comfortable, watching Stoner was scary, I'm worried for him..
 
Completely the opposite, rossi looked comfortable, watching Stoner was scary, I'm worried for him..

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Stoner always looks scary...that's because he's from planet scary....yea that's right, Stoner the only alien in MotoGP!
 
Man I would love to see footage inside the Ducati's garage. I want to see the desperation and despair look on Rossi's face !! I bet he ain't playing to the cameras anymore making silly faces and what not. Probably shoving away cameras right about now.
 
Man I would love to see footage inside the Ducati's garage. I want to see the desperation and despair look on Rossi's face !! I bet he ain't playing to the cameras anymore making silly faces and what not. Probably shoving away cameras right about now.

Rossi and co are working on the solution now and going into fine detail........Have you ever saw a grumpy rossi?

Did you scan the crowd?

Julian Ryder said the crowds all red now and its taking him a while to get used to it...

Rossi's not the peoples champion for nothing...

If you said he would do a 1.55.6 yesterday? Would you have believed him?
 
Arab ,a great balanced post about Rossi. The good and the bad. Too much black and white on here often.







Jumkie, whay are you on? , .....................you are sounding like a remorseful drunk.



You know the duke is crap, so dont take it too hard. Enjoy Caseys (posssible) success instead. Nicky has got his title, which is more than he could have expected.
 
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Stoner always looks scary...that's because he's from planet scary....yea that's right, Stoner the only alien in MotoGP!



Too true. The last quarter of almost any Q-session, I'm always torn between rooting for him to go faster and hoping he doesn't kill himself in the process. An extremely exciting rider to watch, that's for sure.
 
Rossi and co are working on the solution now and going into fine detail........Have you ever saw a grumpy rossi?

Did you scan the crowd?

Julian Ryder said the crowds all red now and its taking him a while to get used to it...

Rossi's not the peoples champion for nothing...

If you said he would do a 1.55.6 yesterday? Would you have believed him?





The problem is though, that from 0.7 secs behind in FP2, he went to +1.3 , and now + 1.5 secs. Hardly progress.



PS> not intending to be a wet blanket, but VRs near future is bleak.
 
Too true. The last quarter of almost any Q-session, I'm always torn between rooting for him to go faster and hoping he doesn't kill himself in the process. An extremely exciting rider to watch, that's for sure.

I agree
 
Rossi and co are working on the solution now and going into fine detail........Have you ever saw a grumpy rossi?

Did you scan the crowd?

Julian Ryder said the crowds all red now and its taking him a while to get used to it...

Rossi's not the peoples champion for nothing...

If you said he would do a 1.55.6 yesterday? Would you have believed him?





Sure why not? That's not even a competitive qualifying time, he's 1.5s behind the leader. Not only that, he got spanked by Hector Barbera on a satellite Ducati by .4s ......... that is a big margin by the way.



And please, don't be fooled by Rossi's happy-go-lucky persona cuz inside lies a cut throat, backstabbing, pretentious egomaniac. His true colors will reveal itself this year.... heck he's well on his way already with his comments as of late.
 
Arrabi, thanx for the sobering post. Im guilty of negativity. I should know better. I think i became bitter from the get go when i joined PS. Perhaps the only time if sublime relief was when Nicky won at Valencia. Then almost immediately all i read was discredit, wher i was set on a track MO that i hav never shed. My froth has always been directed at these detractors, as well as, the HRC dynamic at play while Nicky was there. Today, i feel im re-living the ladder part and honestly, it disheartening (yes, just racing, but its my hobby, so like all thise that hav one, its here wher i share, bicker, defend, and express my opinion, for good or bad).



For all those that hav left cuz of the bickering, i aplogize. Ive certainly been part of the prob. I cant promise i'll improve much, as old habits die hard. Especially when i so take racing to heart as much as im reminded in the scheme of life, its of no importance. Its prob an addiction, just like any other.



For what ever reason, PS exposes this side of me becuz in person i think im a better person. Mayb its becuz the Net offers a distance wher i fail to employ normal civil custom. Mayb its becuz i log on to PS to spew my opinions and frustrations as a passionate (fanatical) Hayden fan. Mayb its here wher i can talk about my opinions wher most peeps can understand what im saying regardless whether they agree/ disagree, (ther is relief in that). Ive been called an ....... many times here, 95% was deserved. Cant really say im gonna improve, as i may b venting much frustration this year as u can see from the current event thus far. But kniw that i appreciate ur candid chastice to all of us who bicker aimlessly.

The main difference with Nicky now with Ducati is that he can now test lots of parts and give his opinion, in fact Rossi didn't even try the parts after Nicky tried them. Rossi listened to Nicky's advice, . In 2007 Honda build a bike for Pedrosa and Nicky was handed the bike as the world champion which that was developed for Pedrosa. Did he have any input?

2007 Pedrosa had all the best parts, do you think Ducati will keep parts from Nicky? No chance

They will work as a team and it will come.
 
Is it a good time to revisit a Spies interview from late last year. His observations were very astute..............



http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Oct/101028b.htm





With the 2010 MotoGP championship decided and just two rounds remaining, many eyes are on 2011.



Valentino Rossi's switch from Yamaha to Ducati will, of course, garner the majority of the page views around the globe as the Italian becomes part of an Italy-based Superteam of Italian rider and Italian bike. (Much to the chagrin of Loris Capirossi and Marco Melandri.)



Rossi to Ducati might snare headlines but there are other seat-swaps in the mix. American Ben Spies will replace him on the factory Yamaha team and Australian Casey Stoner will join the factory Honda MotoGP squad. The latter pairing is the one that new MotoGP Rookie of the Year Ben Spies finds interesting.



"Casey on a Honda could be a very scary situation," the American said. "The Honda's working quite well now. When Casey's on, there's been nobody on a Ducati that can touch him. Those are just facts. So it's going to be scary to see what he does on a Honda. Again, it's one of those things that could go really bad for everybody. We'll have to see.



"We're going to know how good that Ducati was in a little bit, when everybody swaps around and starts riding other people's bikes. But from the outside, as a fan, I think what's about to happen this off-season is the biggest shakeup for MotoGP in recent years, and it's good for it," Spies continued. "All the major guys are moving around. It's going to be an exciting season next season, and then the season after that it's going to be 1000cc, and that's going to take it to another level. So the next couple of years, I think MotoGP will have more flair and excitement than it's had the last few years."









" It's one of those things that could go really bad for everybody"





Quote of 2010!
 
Stoner with another pole and perfect performance in Qatar, Pedrosa may take the lead at the first corner, but i dont think he can scape from Stoner, and even Lorenzo.

Rossi in the 3th row, with 1.5 seconds down to the pole position time.



The first race hasn't started yet, but the conspiracy theories are already made.



Some believe that Hayden isn't allowed to finish infront of Rossi. I wonder if that's true and if Hayden believes it too?

Then what about the differences between Simonchelli and Aoyama and also Dovizioso with his teammates? they are even further behind their team mates than Hayden to Rossi. perhaps all teams have decided to run a test rider. and what about Spies? he finished infront of Lorenzo in most FP's, but he qualified behind him. Who knows, i only believe if a rider let something like this happens to him and he doesn't do anything against it, then he isn't worth anything.
 
You just called Casey Stoner slow
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Yeah.......quite beyond doubt the most idiotic post I've read in an aeon.



That's like saying the Honda vacated by Vale was quite clearly ..... because Biaggi was beaten at Welkom in the first race of the '04 season. I think j4rn0 is correct in saying that the entire Honda performance has been enhanced by the new transmission, but Casey has always owned Losail since his landmark first appearance here on the LCR Honda. I'm still adamant that Casey was the only rider out there capable of taming the screamer - Valentino would never have entertained the idea beyond a blueprint in Bologna. The chronic understeer of the GP11 is exacerbated by Valentino's shoulder. Vale and the crew need a few races under their belt to gauge how to tailor the bikes responses to best limit this handicap, and to ape some of the characteristics of the nimble M1 which was exploited to such effect. Valentino and his crew are masters of engineering and setting a bike up around the strengths of the rider. They will be up to speed once they obtain the race data that they so urgently require. Jerez, traditionally an 'also ran' circuit for the Desmo will be a major headache though.



If you really want a reminder of outright unfair advantage, rewind to 2002 and Valentino astride the all new RCV211V - a bike so sorted out of the crate that Alex Briggs used to play with the settings during practise and even qualifying out of sheer unadulterated boredom. A bike so sorted, that when Honda Pons eventually took delivery of one in October - Alex Barros rode it around the car park at Motegi before beating Valentino in the subsequent race, and again at Valencia.



I digress. Personality wise I don't particularly like Valentino Rossi, I never have and I probably never will. I see straight through the facade and the fake comic persona - the clown mask slips when things don't go his own way. I thought the situation with Jorge at Yamaha was utterly reprehensible, and cost Valentino much of his integrity, credibility and dignity. I smile wryly at the thought of Casey erecting a wall, dissecting his garage to eliminate a similar perceived threat and the resultant outcry on this forum. I regard Valentino as a particularly duplicitous and ruthless individual who utilises the formidable arsenal of resources which have always availed to him to perpetuate his comparative advantage. I don't view Casey Stoner meanwhile as some paragon of humankind either, and am fully aware of the guys foibles and obvious shortcomings off and on the track but do find him more sincere and genuine than VR although his mouth is much like his racing..and he sometimes needs to think before he puts it in gear.



In spite of this, as I have said many times before, Valentino Rossi as the GOAT is unparalleled in this sport. I love his respect for the history and pedigree of motorcycle racing. He has managed to embody, crystalise and encapsulate an entire pantheon of greats within his own career. He has the natural talent of Spencer or Hailwood, the tenacity determination and mental fortitude of Doohan, the charisma and charm of Sheene, the finesse of Steady Eddie, the balls of Schwantz, the self belief of KRsnr and on very rare occasions the outright speed of Casey Stoner!!



So many regulars have been driven off this board by the flame wars, trolling and pointless fatuous posts such as the above. Even Barry talks GP racing in a semi constructive way on occasions. This .... belongs on other lesser forums. Hardly surprising that some defect to Kropotkin's pad for some intelligent discourse. All this drivel about haters fan boys and boppers. I don't hate any of these guys, I have the utmost respect for them all as riders. Some acquit themselves better than others, but it's rare to find a successful racer at this level without some manner of personality defect - These guys are competing for the greatest prize in motorcycle racing, not the nobel peace prize...sure it gets ugly from time to time. We love our hero's and we love our villains - but to me they're all heroes once out on track. I didn't much care for 'lil John, Phil Read, Max, Fogarty, and a host of others - but didn't give a .... when it came to a Sunday and the flag dropped.



Enjoy the racing this weekend, and instead of this bickering and stressing ridiculous divisive differences and preferences over individual riders and allegiances, celebrate our united love and respect for the sport on this, your forum.



(Go Casey!)
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Fooking ......

Arabb and another one of his fact filled, sensible posts.

Go away there's no place for that here.
 
Arrabi, thanx for the sobering post. Im guilty of negativity. I should know better. I think i became bitter from the get go when i joined PS. Perhaps the only time if sublime relief was when Nicky won at Valencia. Then almost immediately all i read was discredit, wher i was set on a track MO that i hav never shed. My froth has always been directed at these detractors, as well as, the HRC dynamic at play while Nicky was there. Today, i feel im re-living the ladder part and honestly, it disheartening (yes, just racing, but its my hobby, so like all thise that hav one, its here wher i share, bicker, defend, and express my opinion, for good or bad).



For all those that hav left cuz of the bickering, i aplogize. Ive certainly been part of the prob. I cant promise i'll improve much, as old habits die hard. Especially when i so take racing to heart as much as im reminded in the scheme of life, its of no importance. Its prob an addiction, just like any other.



For what ever reason, PS exposes this side of me becuz in person i think im a better person. Mayb its becuz the Net offers a distance wher i fail to employ normal civil custom. Mayb its becuz i log on to PS to spew my opinions and frustrations as a passionate (fanatical) Hayden fan. Mayb its here wher i can talk about my opinions wher most peeps can understand what im saying regardless whether they agree/ disagree, (ther is relief in that). Ive been called an ....... many times here, 95% was deserved. Cant really say im gonna improve, as i may b venting much frustration this year as u can see from the current event thus far. But kniw that i appreciate ur candid chastice to all of us who bicker aimlessly.

Your starting to sound like some apologetic ....., i like you better as an .......
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