Losail Tests

Like I keep

Saying it's ok that stoner has ridden the ducati better than rossi. But Rossi has a great history on all the bikes he has ridden prior to this one(so far). So I'll say it again you guys are only talking .... about the guy cause of his accomplishments on the bike he has been on for what the eighth time now?? Man all I hope is that we get some closer racing and from what I've seen spies is pretty good in close racing so is stoner and Lorenzo and I think dani will be better at it this year too.

seeing as this is the busiest thread



Japan GP postponed and is now scheduled to take place on October 2nd

that took sometime for that to be announced Dorna/FIM must have been busy at Boddingtons brewery organizing it

BarryMachine said:

Is the Honda a screamer? if so well its obvious Rossi would not be good on it.



And its pretty obvious he would not be able to ride the Honda very good at all too, ie. We can assume he would be 2 seconds off Stoners pace on like bikes, ...... thats not a good time.



No I think Rossi is past the years of little or no competition, and having a proactive JB, and being up against some pretty mediocre competition. These new boys can outpace him blindfolded.

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You're talking ...., plain and simple.

The detailed analysis of Qatar day1 is present here My link



Perhaps a small relief to the desperate Rossi fans? (me included)

Renjith said:

The detailed analysis of Qatar day1 is present here My link



Perhaps a small relief to the desperate Rossi fans? (me included)

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thx 4 the link



post the analysis of day/2 if u find dem

spidy49 said:

post the analysis of day/2 if u find dem

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Day 2, a little less relief



Pos. Rider Team Best Time 1:57′s 1:56′s 1:55′s Laps

1 Casey Stoner Repsol Honda Team 1’55.681 4 16 7 46

2 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team 1’55.745 7 11 1 39

3 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini 1’56.433 16 9 0 70

4 Ben Spies Yamaha Factory Racing 1’56.294 4 8 0 45

5 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing 1’56.707 27 5 0 48

6 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Team 1’56.439 21 5 0 58

7 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1’56.726 18 6 0 68

8 Hiroshi Aoyama San Carlo Honda Gresini 1’56.740 26 2 0 73

9 Randy De Puniet Pramac Racing Team 1’56.445 18 2 0 67

10 Alvaro Bautista Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1’56.931 17 1 0 63

11 Valentino Rossi Ducati Marlboro Team 1’56.988 14 1 0 50

12 Colin Edwards Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1’56.716 9 3 0 57

13 Hector Barbera Mapfre Aspar Team 1’56.798 4 2 0 62

14 Loris Capirossi Pramac Racing Team 1’57.345 3 0 0 62

15 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1’57.730 2 0 0 28

16 Karel Abraham Cardion AB Motoracing 1’57.846 1 0 0 49

17 Toni Elias LCR Honda MotoGP 1’58.536 0 0 0 57



Hard to read chart, but its 1 lap in the 1.56's and 0 laps in the 1.55's

Even less relief than less, if you consider several Duc's would have DNF'd due to crashing out.

COMBINED test times:

Combined times from both days of the final MotoGP test at Qatar:



Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff Diff Previous Day

1 27 Casey Stoner Honda 1:55.681 2

2 26 Dani Pedrosa Honda 1:55.745 0.064 0.064 2

3 11 Ben Spies Yamaha 1:56.294 0.613 0.549 2

4 58 Marco Simoncelli Honda 1:56.433 0.752 0.139 2

5 4 Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1:56.439 0.758 0.006 2

6 7 Hiroshi Aoyama Honda 1:56.444 0.763 0.005 1

7 14 Randy de Puniet Ducati 1:56.445 0.764 0.001 2

8 1 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1:56.682 1.001 0.237 1

9 5 Colin Edwards Yamaha 1:56.716 1.035 0.034 2

10 69 Nicky Hayden Ducati 1:56.726 1.045 0.010 2

11 8 Hector Barbera Ducati 1:56.798 1.117 0.072 2

12 19 Alvaro Bautista Suzuki 1:56.931 1.250 0.133 2

13 46 Valentino Rossi Ducati 1:56.988 1.307 0.057 2

14 65 Loris Capirossi Ducati 1:57.345 1.664 0.357 2

15 17 Karel Abraham Ducati 1:57.499 1.818 0.154 1

16 35 Cal Crutchlow Yamaha 1:57.730 2.049 0.231 2

17 24 Toni Elias Honda 1:58.250 2.569 0.520 1

motomatters.com

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I thought the Yamaha positions were interesting. Spies clearly the front runner in factory team. He also had a bit more consistent run. And if you consider that consistency is a staple of Lorenzo, it makes Spies all that more impressive.



Also, Randy on a Sat Duc beating out two Yamaha's looks even more clever.



Also, Hiroshi up with the other Hondas is a testament to his riding ability, considering he does NOT have the new transmission system Talps is trying to call unfair advantage. Sidenote, Honda should provide the new transmission to him, how awesome would it be for him to podium or win a race for the Japanese fans. Why the Japanese brands do not insist on giving their countryman the best and most advantage is a mystery to me!



Also, when you combine the times, Rossi doesn't look so bad, since he did beat out two other Ducati's (Loris and Abraham).

Jumkie said:

COMBINED test times:







I thought the Yamaha positions were interesting. Spies clearly the front runner in factory team. He also had a bit more consistent run. And if you consider that consistency is a staple of Lorenzo, it makes Spies all that more impressive.



Also, Randy on a Sat Duc beating out two Yamaha's looks even more clever.



Also, when you combine the times, Rossi doesn't look so bad, since he did beat out two other Ducati's (Loris and Abraham).

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not sure i agree wit hspies being front runner, given that lorenzo did more laps in the 1.57s and is the man that scored the most 1.56s , even one more than casey

cliché guevara said:

by the way johnny, happy about what happens in japan?finally one of the evil axis powers suffers from what you've wished upon them

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What are you talking about???

Jumkie said:

What are you talking about???

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he stated he was sorry that germany didn't get "what they deserved" ,referring to nukes.





no matter, i won't give the ....... the pleasure of being agitated because of his inhumane,utterly stupid comments







where did you get the impression that spies is doing better than lorenzo though?

Can't remember who it was that was keeping track of the Ducati crashes, but you could add another for Ducati.

From day 2, Nicky: "I ended the day with a crash in Turn 2, where a lot of guys have gone down this week. I just lost the front end."



From day 1, Randy: "Let’s say that this was not my luckiest day of testing. Because of two falls I lost almost two hours because both bikes were not useable. The first crash I expected because I was almost at the limit, while the second happened far too quickly, like as if I had put the wheels on oil.



From day 1, Valentino: "I entered too quickly and lost the front"

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80 sec. Not sure if that front end is healthy...

cliché guevara said:

he stated he was sorry that germany didn't get "what they deserved" ,referring to nukes.





no matter, i won't give the ....... the pleasure of being agitated because of his inhumane,utterly stupid comments







where did you get the impression that spies is doing better than lorenzo though?

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Lets see we nuke Japan and we rebuild their infrastructure. And they become a world super power in electronics and automotive. We dont nuke Germany and their greatest export is now shizer films. If I was german I would be pissed!

cliché guevara said:

he stated he was sorry that germany didn't get "what they deserved" ,referring to nukes.





no matter, i won't give the ....... the pleasure of being agitated because of his inhumane,utterly stupid comments

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Not sure how you made the leap to say he wished harm or payback on Japan; sounds like a misguided stretch.

where did you get the impression that spies is doing better than lorenzo though?

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Day one: Spies P4, Lorenzo P5

Day two: Spies P3, Lorenzo P7

Combined: Spies P3, Lorenzo P8

MdubSTYLIE said:

Lets see we nuke Japan and we rebuild their infrastructure. And they become a world super power in electronics and automotive. We dont nuke Germany and their greatest export is now shizer films. If I was german I would be pissed!

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god forbid,if "you" would have rebuilt our infrastructure we'd probably be forced to crawl around at 60mph what are shizer films btw? also i'd say germany isn't exactly what you'd call far behind in terms of electronics and especially the automotive industry





the leap? i just assume who's stupid enough to say such things is probably short sighted and racist enough to stretch the hate to other countries that used to be war enemies ,under other leaders,decades ago. i don't care man, i'm actually sorry i let myself stoop down to the level of replying to such comments.the guy has got some serious issues with germans and pot smokers,good for me then, i like to piss idiots off





enough of the off topic





was there any info on how the ducati riders would set their bikes up? i recall reading the hypothesis that the duc's like a ....,it only works well when its totally stiff.

would like to know if they try to soften the .... or turn it into soft moist snizz









edit : @ jum: i referred to the number of laps the riders were able to do in the 1.57s and 1.56s, yes , spies' fastest laps were faster than lorenzos but then again it at least appears to be like lorenzo is comfortable with 1.57s/1.56s so i guess thats the more important part on race day.



1.57s : lorenzo 21 laps ; spies 7

1.56s :lorenzo 13 laps ; spies 1 (!) (compare with stoners 12 laps in the 1.56s , one less than lorenzo)



of course i don't have the slightest idea what both lorenzo and spies still have got to show

cliché guevara said:

god forbid,if "you" would have rebuilt our infrastructure we'd probably be forced to crawl around at 60mph

what are shizer films btw?

also i'd say germany isn't exactly what you'd call far behind in terms of electronics and especially the automotive industry





the leap? i just assume who's stupid enough to say such things is probably short sighted and racist enough to stretch the hate to other countries that used to be war enemies ,under other leaders,decades ago. i don't care man, i'm actually sorry i let myself stoop down to the level of replying to such comments.the guy has got some serious issues with germans and pot smokers,good for me then, i like to piss idiots off





enough of the off topic

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I having a laugh. It was getting to serious. Good call on the infrastructure! Compact cars and traffic jams or super cars and high speed banked corners on the highway?



You have warped my fragile little mind!

MdubSTYLIE said:

I having a laugh. It was getting to serious. Good call on the infrastructure!

Compact cars and traffic jams or super cars and high speed banked corners on the highway?



You have warped my fragile little mind!

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the reason we don't have banked corners on highways is that it would degrade our beloved autobahn to another nascar track

Ben Spies have really impressed. I for one don't think that HeyWhore Lorentho is holding back at all in these tests. Spies is deffinately someone to keep an eye out for, I know for sure Lorentho is. I wonder how much this Spies will have an affect on Lorentho's game, I feel he's already gotten into his head at the moment..... will this play a big part in Lorentho's title defense? I think so.



Honda. What can I say..... I feel it's their championship to lose. They've gone all out for the riders this time, providing everything at their disposals for the riders so failure is not an option this time around. The riders have no more excuses, they clearly have the best bike out there.



Oh...... and one more thing. Rossi will be getting a piece of that humble pie whether he likes it or not, it's only a matter of how he wants it. Getting served on a plate or someone shoving it into his face. I'd much rather prefer the latter.

cliché guevara said:

he stated he was sorry that germany didn't get "what they deserved" ,referring to nukes.

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When did I say that??

I know its real hard for you to focus and your short term memory isn't so good so I won't hold it against you

JohnnyKnockdown said:

When did I say that??

I know its real hard for you to focus and your short term memory isn't so good so I won't hold it against you

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.... like that is sufficient. i'm gonna make one last effort to try to talk to you before i give it up.

i actually looked for the thread . its the "new smart weapon" thread you had started. i admit i wrongly had in mind it was you who uttered the statement "Its a ....... shame we didnt develop the bomb sooner, Germany deserved a few of their own." but in fact you were "only" agreeing with it and taking it even further by saying "Might as well nuke all potheads as well". and since then all you do is spoil threads in that i have wirtten responses or have started.



i don't expect of you to man up and readily admit that you're just being a .... towards me for no reason, it would be totally sufficient to cut the crap and ignore my posts if they're such a thorn in your eyes