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He wasn't nicknamed "lucky" for winning it, but for managing to stay on the bike the many times he "should" have crashed.

Which is one of the main reasons he won it :blink:

He was a sort of motorcycling James Hunt on stereoids,

BJ.C is your friend. Or not it would seem

No he wasn't, unlike Hunt's boorishness, he was known for being quite measured and calculated on the track - and in '81, particularly after the crash in the opening round at Austria. In fairness, the 'lucky' moniker was pretty much self styled and referred to his off track exploits, so really I'm wrong to suggest that they named him after his championship for many reasons...but it was known as a fortuitous title so it stuck for that reason. As I said, he actually rode quite conservatively at times - particularly at tree lined Imatra where he quipped "I definitely ride at 80%, I'm too young to die" - and also in the subsequent round at Sweden which was treacherously wet. If anything, Mamola was the more brazen in 1981.

Still alive though. So he wasn't lucky in the way Nicky was, and in the end Nicky wasn't lucky in the way Lucky has been.

You're actually quite the .... aren't you.
 
I keep waiting for one of these guys to have a genuine sense of humor and to be mainly engaged in having some fun, which I would quite respect.

I continue to be disappointed.

Humour Mike? What were you expecting from an individual that produced a spreadsheet to analyse lap times at PI in 2015
 
I keep waiting for one of these guys to have a genuine sense of humor and to be mainly engaged in having some fun, which I would quite respect.

I continue to be disappointed.

Danski
Vudu
Wedding Photographer

Outside of Gaz i've never seen a Stoner fan that could take a joke.
Saying anything about him is like watching the frenzy that ensues, after tossing chum in a river full of pirahanas.
 
Danski
Vudu
Wedding Photographer

Outside of Gaz i've never seen a Stoner fan that could take a joke.
Saying anything about him is like watching the frenzy that ensues, after tossing chum in a river full of pirahanas.

Hmmm...and that Talpa was a barrel of laughs.
 
Danski yeah true ... he's hilarious
Vudu ditto .... or "danski likes this"
Wedding Photographer

Outside of Gaz i've never seen a Stoner fan that could take a joke. you take that back
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Saying anything about him is like watching the frenzy that ensues, after tossing chum in a river full of pirahanas.
i'm taking that as chum, consider yourself stripped to 4he bone ..... .....!
 
Danski
Vudu
Wedding Photographer

Outside of Gaz i've never seen a Stoner fan that could take a joke.
Saying anything about him is like watching the frenzy that ensues, after tossing chum in a river full of pirahanas.

I enjoyed the wedding photg. I wonder if he paid his bill yet?
 
Danski
Vudu
Wedding Photographer

Outside of Gaz i've never seen a Stoner fan that could take a joke.
Saying anything about him is like watching the frenzy that ensues, after tossing chum in a river full of pirahanas.
I was referring to the rotating cast of visiting trolls.
 
I was referring to the rotating cast of visiting trolls.

Just because they have a differing opinion doesn't make them trolls. Most of these guys are fanatical fans, expressing their viewpoint. A troll is someone that purposely sows discord. It just happens that the very mention of Rossi in a positive light sows discord with the popular groupthink.
 
Just because they have a differing opinion doesn't make them trolls. Most of these guys are fanatical fans, expressing their viewpoint. A troll is someone that purposely sows discord. It just happens that the very mention of Rossi in a positive light sows discord with the popular groupthink.

It was the quip about Hayden to which I objected, so much so that I only posted Arrab's reply.
 
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I would have liked to see Dani on a factory Yamaha, he would have been very fast in one of those.

Yours are the double standards. Rossi left championship winning bikes in two ocassions to join lesser bikes. He went to Yamaha while completely dominating the sport with the Honda, to ride a bike that hadn't even been on the podium the year before. He went to Ducati while riding clearly the best bike, despite the high risk of the move. I can't remember Stoner ever switching to a lesser bike.
I agree with the first sentence, but I take a little issue with second paragraph, because Rossi didn't leave Honda for a challenge. He left because Honda told him to stuff-it with the money he wanted. I actually think that first championship with Yamaha was the pinnacle of Rossi's career. In hindsight, the Yamaha might have been better than we realized, just like the Ducati was worse than we realized because Rossi went there.

He also had the same situation with Yamaha, you know? Yamaha paid Lorenzo several million more than they offered Rossi. Rossi, rightfully so, said up-yours. He couldn't go back to Honda, because Honda will never take him back (imo). So off to Ducati he went. He had zero choice, if he wanted more money and/or didn't want to stick Yamaha Lube up his behind.

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The "built for Dani" agenda is more speculation than fact.
You're not going to make me find all the information backing that Honda invested everything in Dani being their Champion? Hayden couldn't even fit on the bike the way it came from the factory. (Remind me, later, I will hunt it all down, if necessary.)
Occurred to me as well. But I just don't think of Yamaha that way. Honda yes. Yamaha always seem very pragmatic. If Vinales is the future of the company - they will not want to cut the legs out from under him ......
When Yamaha makes a rider an offer, that is it. There might be sponsor details, etc. But the money is set. They are done. Jarvis has said this openly.
Being brutally conspiratorial here but given the outspoken comments of Vinales and Rossi towards Zarco and his riding style, I have concerns as to how he will be 'supported' into the future if, and I emphasise IF he is allowed to continue to threaten the top two.
I am paranoid enough to think he is already getting cheated because he is "too good". I think he is great for the sport. But, I don't make any money from MotoGP, so my dollars spent may not count enough when counting everyone's Euros.
 
Yes of course, Honda sabotaged him by keeping him as a factory rider for... .

Your Worst post was about 2006, and your misinformed assessment. Your point was that NH was lucky because Rossi bla bla. It's never been an authentic contest when Rossi has had every possible advantage and the competition has been decidedly sabotaged. In 2006 (let's stick to 06, before you move the goal post around to attempt argumentative fallacies) Nicky Hayden won despite being actively sabotaged, Rossi has never won this way. Not once.
 

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