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Okey doke. So what about squirters?
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You left me open for a Stoner joke, but I'll resist the temptation.
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Here's Will commentating on some classic Randy.
I'm taking the JPS Lotus challenge (and as there was no objection possibly the rest of the forum feels this way) RE: unlike Roberts, Spencer, Lawson, Schwantz and Gardner, Rainey never lost it (or words to the effect of).Lawson has been dealt with. I don't think Gardner really lost it (apart from control of his bike to many times, Boom Boom). If you check his last season he scored more points than any other rider in the 7/13 races he competed in. You may point to the 1992 Honda being the best bike on the grid which of course it was. Gardners main problem as Burgess put it was - Wayne had no real idea how to setup the bike, he just use to wrestle it around the track, or something to that effect. As a result he was at the mercy of how good the bike in general was. So just to sum up - don't think he's the goat, know he's a ...., but liked watching he ride a bike.
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Rog is the Casey Stoner of this forum! Liked by most, other didn`t agreed with him, he quit the forum and never came back.
Ooooww gee .... rog would be chucking a right old sook at you for that comparison
he was a big old sook .I often wonder if it was actually rog who instigated some of the most idiotic myths about Stoner .... and Rossi for that matter. eg. The early debate on "electronics" with rog ascerting that Rossi had no electronic aids and he was adamant that Stoner was merely a lucky passenger on the amazing Ducati robotic smart bike
It was pointed out to rog that not only was Rossi Magnetic Marelli's poster boy, his early days on the Honda were dependent on the electronics taming the beast for him.
Really rog would have been back in a flash if rossi had been able to ride the duc. They had a rampant belief that not only would rossi be a WC on the Duc but he would also show Stoner how to ride. That myth busted like a supernova exploding and turning into a toddler girl dressed as a fairy having a private tea party.
Rog and many others could never come back after that.
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Sorry, Barry, but I think you are trying to portray Roger worse than he really was. To say he didn`t came back because Rossi didn`t do well on the Ducati means that he wasn`t a fan of the sport, but only a fan of Rossi, and I don`t think this is true.
I liked Roger, and was a member on his forum during the deserted age of Powerslide. He wouldn`t bother to build that and maintain it just to be a Rossi shrine. It was a really nice and fun place to be, with a lot of topics, banter and interesting discussions.
So Barry, don`t try to say that Rossi`s performance turned Rog from racing, it`s not true.
I liked Roger, and was a member on his forum during the deserted age of Powerslide. He wouldn`t bother to build that and maintain it just to be a Rossi shrine. It was a really nice and fun place to be, with a lot of topics, banter and interesting discussions.
So Barry, don`t try to say that Rossi`s performance turned Rog from racing, it`s not true.
Sure. He and I differed in regard to Stoner and to some extent Rossi, but he had obviously been a strong Doohan fan, and a Rainey and Schwantz fan, as I was, before Rossi's advent.
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Summary of Stoner's career in the top class:
- Kept crashing on the LCR, the Rolling Stoner days.
- Was a passenger on the 2007 Ducati missile on the Bridgestones.
- Once Rossi had the same rubber he was ...., scared, crashed a lot, kept complaining and lost at least a title he could/should have won (2008).
- At HRC he was no more and no less than a match to Pedrosa, without the Spaniard's bad luck.
- He then quit just in time to avoid MM and keep some "reputation" between his followers in Australia, and a few elsewhere I believe.
- Kept crashing on the LCR, the Rolling Stoner days.
- Was a passenger on the 2007 Ducati missile on the Bridgestones.
- Once Rossi had the same rubber he was ...., scared, crashed a lot, kept complaining and lost at least a title he could/should have won (2008).
- At HRC he was no more and no less than a match to Pedrosa, without the Spaniard's bad luck.
- He then quit just in time to avoid MM and keep some "reputation" between his followers in Australia, and a few elsewhere I believe.
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Nobody seriously believes Rog split because of Rossi. In fact he'd said he would disown Rossi if he went back on his word and took cigarette money, which he did.
The fact is that most everybody here loves racing. That doesn't excuse being a .... to a number of people here. He took a lot of flack from people over his unwarranted attacks on other members, and when St Rog found he couldn't freely abuse people and still get unconditional love from his devotees - he split, despite multiple efforts to call a truce.
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This is the all time worst thread in the history of the site. Congratulations we contribute nothing. For 20 page we came up with fun names for Cal Crutchlow, another 10 on Stoner and calling me an ......., and then a glorious discussion about about a members retirement. Duc, feel free to trash this thread before we get into politics please.
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Purposely being ignorant isn't a good look for you, but by all means continue carrying on with it if it helps you sleep at night.
Stoner was getting mismatched Michelin tires in 2006 when he was at LCR. He wasn't even eligible for the SNS tires, let alone the next step down. I don't recall your boy ever having to deal with such a prospect. Your boy is also the one who blocked Stoner from being on the second M1 and preferred having Colin Edwards there because that was no threat to his hegemony.
In 2007 Stoner rode the most difficult bike on the grid to 10 victories and a world title while showing off the adaptability no other rider on the grid had at that time. 2008 perhaps he should have won the title, but you also ignore as has been mentioned numerous times that he was given a worse bike than in 2007, and still managed to reel off more wins in 2008 than your boy did in 2 years at Ducati.
Last I looked for the two years he spent with Pedrosa, he scored 1 world title with a slew of race wins on both the final year of the 800cc and the first year off the 1000cc bikes.
Lastly, he didn't retire to avoid MM, that's a tired and easily disproven position that you with the rest of the boppers like to subscribe to because it's a way to avoid the reality that he outperformed your boy from 2007 through 2012 when both were riding for factory teams.
Have any ........ you want to keep shoveling that I can knock down with no effort?
For which you bear absolutely no responsibility of course.
The latest in a long line of hopefuls with the same schtick, none of whom have had any success, and immediately recognised as such.
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I guess you don't understand the meaning of we. I most definitely included myself.
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Why don't you guys jut go back to talking about Roger it seems to be less heated.
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Every so often the clown car shows up and deposits a few new hopefuls looking to counter reality with their own gross distortion of events in a losing effort to not have their fragile glory-hunting worldview shattered in mere minutes.
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While I know it's commonplace for a number of us here to make jokes about Crutchlow crashing out, over the weekend I was thinking about something with Crutchlow. I hope everyone, you included has considered that the possibility does exist that Crutchlow could crash one race and suffer severe or fatal injuries. All of those posts are going to be in pretty bad taste at that point.
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I can't entirely disagree with you as this has happened in this forums lifetime. Marco was very controversial and lot was said about him. With that said I have never seen a post on here directly wishing harm on a rider. I don't care who its about this forum would attack. Rossi, Stoner, ect there is a line. I'll admit we tip toe it but we also call each other out when we cross it.
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A bit of a silly ride from Randy there.
It's apparent that the riding in that era was at another level. The tyres were .... in comparison, but the corner speeds are laughable compared to the current bikes. It's worse than comparing the current MotoGP and Moto3.
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