Does anyone actually belive that Stoner choked under pressure???

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Val_46 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>how many pens did beckham miss? i dont like the guy but if you think he consistantly failed then you know nothing.

stoner crashed under pressure 2 races running, beckham (far as i remember) missed 1 pen (and we still got through)


Well I guess I know nothing (.... get told that all the time by SWMBO)

Beckham was an example as I seem to recall him missing a number of penalties during crucial games (ManUtd and England) although he is not alone there. If that is wrong than fine as I didn't research it thus why I also included Norman who I am sure many would recognise his past efforts.





Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Val_46 @ Aug 20 2008, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>how many pens did beckham miss? i dont like the guy but if you think he consistantly failed then you know nothing.
I thought Beckham was in a stupid girl band and had fake ....?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Aug 20 2008, 01:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The REALLY good thing about this thread is - if Rossi ever crashes again whilst leading a race or chasing points in a race whilst behind etc etc etc plenty of people have carte blanche to call him a choker.
He did already, and I have yet to read one of those 'crazy' fans of his admit it as they are quick to accuse it here. Don't hold your breath, this is why we call it a double standard. Only Casey: chokes, whines, is lucky, complains, cracks under pressure, etc. etc.

I'd rather NOT characterize it as "choking" but rather a mistake at a very high level of competition. But if we are going to call it "choking" then I figure a few others certainly have earned mention in this category.

I don't suppose you've read any of his 'crazy' fans say Rossi was "lucky" and was "gifted" a win, have you?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Aug 20 2008, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Additionally, if crashing whilst leading equates to choking then Schwantz must have choked many a time, yet not a soul would dare suggest that he is a choker.

Only Tom, who of course has made a case that Kevin Schwantz is "over-rated." However, he has only managed to convince his imaginary friends.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Val_46 @ Aug 20 2008, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>this is about stoner choking.. if you want to talk about rossi allegedly choking then start a new thread
I'll let Pinky do that. (If he ever comes back that is).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Val_46 @ Aug 20 2008, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>this is about stoner choking.. if you want to talk about rossi allegedly choking then start a new thread
Every other thread get's hijacked - why is this different?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 20 2008, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He did already, and I have yet to read one of those 'crazy' fans of his admit it as they are quick to accuse it here. Don't hold your breath, this is why we call it a double standard. Only Casey: chokes, whines, is lucky, complains, cracks under pressure, etc. etc.
Well, at least one crazy fan won't call Stoners crash choking, and neither did he consider Rossi's misstakes for choking. But;
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I'd rather NOT characterize it as "choking" but rather a mistake at a very high level of competition. But if we are going to call it "choking" then I figure a few others certainly have earned mention in this category.
I've never seen YOU charactherize Rossi's crashes as anything but choking. So this is another change in your position. Could it be that Roger had a good influence on you?
What did you do Roger? Hypnotize him, whisper in his ear when he was wasted and asleep? What?

Hey member they said Stoner was a bit ill at Brno?
Doctors reported it as beoing a clear case of Moaneritis Chokeractimis...

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Aug 20 2008, 04:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yes yes yes, we have heard it all before.
Vale rides a Pennyfarthing and Stoner is on a Nasa designed supercomputer on wheels.
Unfortunately Marco, Toni & Sylvain lost their passwords.
we not toni at this race but i take you point

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Aug 20 2008, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I thought Beckham was in a stupid girl band and had fake ....?
im not saying your wrong mate

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Aug 20 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, at least one crazy fan won't call Stoners crash choking, and neither did he consider Rossi's misstakes for choking. But;

I've never seen YOU charactherize Rossi's crashes as anything but choking. So this is another change in your position. Could it be that Roger had a good influence on you?
What did you do Roger? Hypnotize him, whisper in his ear when he was wasted and asleep? What?

well sort of
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Aug 20 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hey member they said Stoner was a bit ill at Brno?
Doctors reported it as beoing a clear case of Moaneritis Chokeractimis...

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You are A .........!!!! Curve if anyone knows how to choke it's been you since you did it twice in the past 6 months. LOL. .... man you know I am just messin.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 20 2008, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well sort of
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run for the boarder.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Aug 19 2008, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i would be very interested in hearing this Britishers can watch the whole race here. But the interview is at 45 minutes & 15 seconds, you can just click on the bar at the bottom & go to any point in the race.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Suzi Perry: Dreadful day for Casey, what happened?

Casey Stoner: Yeah you know as much as what I do,..um...everything felt okay, you know. the front, the whole bike was moving around quite alot due to this track surface it's quite slippery so it's the same for everybody. & unfortunately that one just caught me out...y'know...and i thought I had quite alot of feedback coming from the tyres & this came very quickly so..um..y'know a bit disappointed but I mean it was a long shot for this season. Y'know we gave too many points away at the beginning of the season, & y'know were just trying everything to come back so, & we needed to win these races, we couldn't afford to really finish second & just keep giving away more points so we did the best we could & y'know on to the next one.

SP: Livio we spoke to him straight afterwards, He seemed to think you just caught the footpeg & were unlucky this time, because of course you've saved so many of those in the past.

CS: Yeah..um..no I've never had a problem with hitting a footpeg causing a crash or any problems, probably the footpeg touched after I already lost it & I tried to save it but it was already gone so..uh yeah i mean...no excuses no nothing just caught me out

SP: This is Moto GP though Casey, anything could happen as we've seen today & as we've seen before. I take it your not giving up on the championship?

CS: No, I mean were gonna keep fighting race by race, looking at the championship now it's very very difficult but saying that also y'know 5 or 6 races ago we were way out of it & brought ourselves back so, you never know what can happen at the end, but we've just got to um..keep plugging away each race.

SP: Hope you can bring it back. Thanks very much.

CS: Thank you.



So he didn't choke.








He bottled it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>name='Goatboy' date='Aug 20 2008, 10:30 PM' post='147149']
Britishers can watch the whole race here. But the interview is at 45 minutes & 15 seconds, you can just click on the bar at the bottom & go to any point in the race.
cheers mate

maybe they need linda lovelace on the duc. cause she don't choke on the big ones. lol
R-46

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R-46 @ Aug 21 2008, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>maybe they need linda lovelace on the duc. cause she don't choke on the big ones. lol
R-46
Wow what a post you must be a real genius.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (R-46 @ Aug 21 2008, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>maybe they need linda lovelace on the duc. cause she don't choke on the big ones. lol
R-46
your showing your age R.