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The problem is, the 1125R was approved for Superbike at the start of the season. It was a mass produced bike that you and i could go buy. In other words, it met all homologation standards. The problem is,it is woefully slow against other Superbikes.I may be wrong, but im assuming the 1125r that has been racing had all the mods allowed and was still 4-5 seconds a lap slower.Has the RR been punched to 1200, if not,what tech specs have they been allowed to exceed that we dont know about. I have seen the mod list and what they are feeding the public and i sure as hell dont see 25000.00 worth of parts. Why in the hell would DMG throw out their rulebook by doing this if not to just piss people off and try to drive out the jap factory teams. I have read that Buell wanted to go about this in a different manner, taking a showroom bike and converting it with nice little bits and pieces like everyone else is required to do. Instead, DMG insisted that they build a factory race bike, not available to the public. Why would they do that. Back to the any press is good press theory.Having a Buell 1125 in Superbike is not news,having one that breaks all the rules is.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 16 2009, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lex,you just aint getting it brother. You cant have rules for 3 manufacturers and a totally different set of rules for another. This not a displacement issue,its an integrity issue. You say they ...... with Suzuki because of their defiance to DMG, if thats the case, they have lost already. As a governing body, you cant hold grudges and play the i will show you game,while at the same time disregarding your own rules to favor another. This has got to the point where i think the whole Buell issue in the DSB and now , Superbike, is the only way DMG can get anyone to talk about the series. Its like the old saying, any press is good press, at least they are talking about you. If anyone cares to look back, i predicted this would happen and why. It is playing out almost exactly like i thought it would. No jap factory bikes is their vision <u>and the Harley bike crowd is their dream</u>

Talk about short sighted. Back when Harleys were ruling the roost in flat track ovals
(which was exciting racing - I used to really love that ....) the AMA wasn't pulling in
that much dough from those events. When I used to club race and when I worked on
various pit crews - Bike Week at Daytona drew Harley people by the tens of thousands.
But you never saw those people much at the races. They were all hanging out in ..... bars
and getting drunk, buying new tatoos or going to the local, back-water drag races. Or cruising up and down the street yelling - "Show us your ....."
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jul 17 2009, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They were all hanging out in ..... bars
and getting drunk, buying new tatoos or going to the local, back-water drag races. Or cruising up and down the street yelling - "Show us your ....."
And what exactly is wrong with this?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jul 17 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Talk about short sighted. Back when Harleys were ruling the roost in flat track ovals
(which was exciting racing - I used to really love that ....) the AMA wasn't pulling in
that much dough from those events. When I used to club race and when I worked on
various pit crews - Bike Week at Daytona drew Harley people by the tens of thousands.
But you never saw those people much at the races. They were all hanging out in ..... bars
and getting drunk, buying new tatoos or going to the local, back-water drag races. Or cruising up and down the street yelling - "Show us your ....."
You are correct, Harley fans are not road racing fans. This same discussion came up months ago when we were first ranting about DMG and their plans for road racing in America. I said then that if they opened up a couple of ..... bars in the infield of an event,their attendance problems would be solved.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 17 2009, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>if they opened up a couple of ..... bars in the infield of an event,their attendance problems would be solved.
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Stealing a line from Jumkie, "and what is wrong with this?"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 17 2009, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=37360

I hope this clears up everything for you guys, it certainly didnt for me

A bunch of double talk with a bunch of if's, maybe's.

I understand what they're saying, but it seems to go against the oft stated goal of reducing costs. If factories start releasing race only bikes for sale, obseleting the bought-off-the-dealer-floor bikes, how will costs be kept down for the private teams?

A lot of the statements need clarification too. How much is "sufficient"? How quickly is a "timely fashion"? How much "support" would Honda need to provide to customers in order to gain entry for a CBR1000RR-R?

Who knows, maybe DMG has listened to complaints from the povols of the world and are moving towards superbikes that are less stock and customer race bikes from the factory is the way they want to do it? If this is what they're trying to do, will it be the same for eveyrone? Will there be modifications that all race versions will be allowed to make? Or will DMG take it on a bike-by-bike basis, allowing each race version to have different upgrades from the stock bike? The production Buell needs this, the R1 needs a better fork, etc.?

If this is the scenario, what will happen to costs?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Jul 17 2009, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I understand what they're saying, but it seems to go against the oft stated goal of reducing costs. If factories start releasing race only bikes for sale, obseleting the bought-off-the-dealer-floor bikes, how will costs be kept down for the private teams?

A lot of the statements need clarification too. How much is "sufficient"? How quickly is a "timely fashion"? How much "support" would Honda need to provide to customers in order to gain entry for a CBR1000RR-R?

Who knows, maybe DMG has listened to complaints from the povols of the world and are moving towards superbikes that are less stock and customer race bikes from the factory is the way they want to do it? If this is what they're trying to do, will it be the same for eveyrone? Will there be modifications that all race versions will be allowed to make? Or will DMG take it on a bike-by-bike basis, allowing each race version to have different upgrades from the stock bike? The production Buell needs this, the R1 needs a better fork, etc.?

If this is the scenario, what will happen to costs?
I got exactly the same thing out of it as you did. How much is sufficient, How quickly is a timely fashion etc etc etc. It was typical double talk for someone who doesnt want to face the ctrticism of their actions.You cant run a racing series based on lap times where every bike needs special rules.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 17 2009, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I got exactly the same thing out of it as you did. How much is sufficient, How quickly is a timely fashion etc etc etc. It was typical double talk for someone who doesnt want to face the ctrticism of their actions.You cant run a racing series based on lap times where every bike needs special rules.

What worries me the most is that Al said Buell showed AMA what they needed, and they were given that so long as they offer customer bikes. To me, that indicates a rule set for each bike instead of an across the board rules package. So, for example, Yamaha might need to build an R1RR, and instead of getting allowances similar to the 1125R, just get a new fork?

This sets up bickering and politicking from racers and factories, invoking my childhood NASCAR memories of "the Ford guys are crying for more spoiler..."
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Jul 17 2009, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stealing a line from Jumkie, "and what is wrong with this?"
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Hey if that sounds appealing - you'd love racing in Ireland. My second year
in club racing I befriended a bunch of Irish club racers and we used to
travel to the tracks together. First time they came with me to Summit
Point I had to tell them WERA and AMA-CCS did not allow open beers
in the live pit - and they told me in Ireland they had open bars
right in the paddock.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Jul 16 2009, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In the end though, Povol may have said it right, any news is good news, and maybe they are just masters of creating drama so people would show interest again?

Note that we are no longer talking about the Safety Car incident!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Jul 17 2009, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What worries me the most is that Al said Buell showed AMA what they needed, and they were given that so long as they offer customer bikes. To me, that indicates a rule set for each bike instead of an across the board rules package. So, for example, Yamaha might need to build an R1RR, and instead of getting allowances similar to the 1125R, just get a new fork?

This sets up bickering and politicking from racers and factories, invoking my childhood NASCAR memories of "the Ford guys are crying for more spoiler..."
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And the Chevy guys crying for a different front air dam
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Now they just all cry that Toyota has to much money.
 
Just saw a Gatorade commercial on ESPN that showed brief action clips from various sports. Footage of Aron Yates going through the International Horseshoe was included.
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Remember when the manufacturers cried about the new rules b/c eliminating mods was going to put engineers out of work and eliminate the distributors ability to influence design in Japan.

Here is the obvious consequence of eliminating race-upgrades---homologation bombs. Ducati has been doing it for years---Ducati Corse (the racing only company) modify and redesign the stock bike and then release it to the public under the R designation. I'm overjoyed that DMG are actually WELCOMING the prospect of AMA homologation bombs. I thought it would turn into an ugly controversy.

If the American distributors will pull their heads out and market these homologation specials aggressively to privateers and consumers, they might be able to sell 3,000 units (Honda sold nearly 400,000 motorcycles/atv's in North America during 2008). If they can sell 3,000 units (it was 500 units before the 1098), it is a WSBK legal machine. If the distributors work hard, Honda NA, Suzuki NA, Kawasaki NA, and Yamaha NA could become analogous to Ducati Corse.

These rules do help the privateers and manufacturers alike. Under the old AMA rules (and still somewhat under the new AMA rules) the manufacturers could build all kinds of parts to modify the bikes. Titanium pieces to alter airflow in the headers, chassis brackets to alter flex, custom swingarms, rear suspension mounting brackets, etc etc. Basically, homologation specials will allow American distributors to modify the chassis for racing (possibly even cutting the chassis).

Those custom parts will now be provided to the privateers. In trade, the manufacturers get to tune their SBK's to improve competitive results.

Why is DMG opening this pandora's box?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I can’t think of anything better for us than having AMA-branded, ready to rock and roll racebikes.

What evil geniuses they are at DMG.
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You've really gotta watch your ... when they're around.

I had thought for a while that the AMA was going to try to muscle in on production sportsbike revenues, but I couldn't figure out how they were going to get leverage b/c a manufacturer can prepare a bike to AMA spec without referencing the AMA. Now it's obvious. They are going to allow manufacturers to run special equipment if it carries the AMA nomenclature. The nomenclature will carry a fee.
 
More ........ from DMG. They are loving this ....,they have not had this many press conferences in 6 months.

DMG\AMA Pro Racing's Public Relations man, Ollie Dean, held a short press conference this morning at Mid-Ohio to address questions the media have about the Buell 1125RR recentley being homologated in the Superbike class. This is a transcript of that press conference.

A Okay, what can I do for everyone?


Q We just want to let you guys maybe say some more about the Buell thing that came out this week, if that's what you guys want to do. Explain the process, how that machine got homologated. If you have any comments or anything like that.


A We went through a centered homologation process. Al Ludington in our tech department, along with Roy Jansen, who's our VP of Competition, worked with getting that bike homologated. If you've got individual questions, Roy or Al would be much more able to answer those, as he answered them with David earlier today about the entire process that it went through. We went through our standard process. It's based on a production motorcycle, the 1125R. It's available and expected to be readily available through all the dealers for any AMA Professional racer that wants to buy it, which mirrors what it says [inaudible] in our homologation rules.


Q What's the difference between "street legal" and "certified for street use?" The RR clearly isn't street legal. That's sort of the way we interpret it.


A I'm not sure that there's any bikes out here that are street legal.


Q Well, no, but the bike - the basic bike - the base model is homologated.


A And the base model is the 1125R. This is what it's based on, it's a production model.


Q It's based on that, but it's a separate motorcycle. That's the difference. This is a separate motorcycle that's being homologated. This isn't - this isn't the 1125R. The release we got said, "we homologated an 1125RR," which is a different motorcycle. So that's where the confusion is.


A It's a production-based motorcycle, based on the 1125R, that has a package that went through the homologation process, that's legal to race in our series. Any manufacturer that presented that would go through the same process, for that manufacturer to try and find a bike below $40,000 that you could go out and buy and race if you were an AMA licensed rider, and if the factory would support it with its bits and pieces, and it's available through the dealers.


Q No different than you could buy an 1125R, by the rules, turn it into the exact same thing that the RR is?


A That would be a question for Al.


Q So is the position that because Buell's putting on the parts that someone who bought it would, anyways, they're just doing it before the sale instead of after the sale?


A The position is that it's an 1125RR based on the 1125R, that went through the homologation process that our rulebook mandates that all bikes would have to go through, and that it's approved to race this weekend.


Q And because it's based on the other model, the June 1st deadline isn't relevant? Because the other one was homologated by June 1st?


A I believe that's correct, but that would be a technical question for Al Ludington.

Q Well, no, I mean that's just on the homologation part. It says it has to be June 1st and available through August. Is what it says on the homologation part.


A I wouldn't want to speak for Al, obviously, in how that decision was made, but I don't necessarily fault that logic that the 1125R was available before that deadline.


Q So if Yamaha or Suzuki or somebody else wanted to build a hot-rod bike, essentially based on the GSX-R, with fairing and everything else, could they go ahead and do that?

A They'd have to go through the same process that Buell went through. They'd have to submit what their plan was, absolutely. And if there's a cost-effective way [inaudible], that's going to lower the expense that someone would have to do normally to buy whatever OEM bike it was and then make it race-ready, we'd welcome that from any manufacturer, absolutely.


Q That's different from the philosophy that we heard earlier in the year, and last year, that they were trying - I mean, Al told me they were trying to avoid that kind of stuff. Like the Yamaha LE was the one he specifically brought up. And now, this is - That was street legal.


A I don't want to speak for a conversation that you and Al had.


Q Right. Right.


A I can't really speak to that at all.


Q Okay.


A But what I will say, is, once again, if any manufacturer was to present to us, and then we could present to either existing or potential competitors, a cost-effective way to go racing, we're going to take a hard look at it, absolutely, and would welcome the opportunity to do so.


Q And is Al allowed to talk to us?


A I'm not sure I understand that question, Henny Ray.


Q Well, because when we went to talk to Bill at the last race, we had to submit questions to you. Because when I've tried to talk to Al, he said, "Ask Ollie." So I just don't know who's allowed to talk to me and who's not.


A Well, once again - and actually, what was described in your magazine about how that process worked, is still accurate in all it says in there.


Q Well, that's fine -



A No one's not allowed to talk to anybody. We just want to make sure that you get the answers from the right people. So if you will submit those questions to me, then if Al's the right person to answer them, I'll be more than happy to set up a time for you and Al to talk. If Al's not the right person to answer them, I want to make sure that you actually talk to the right person.

Q But Al is the right person to answer these questions.


A Yeah, about the homologation process.


A The questions that you've raised are essentially about a conversation that you had previously with him. I can't think of anybody better than Al to talk to about that.


Q So it's okay for any of us to talk to him? Or do we each need ... Al's never spoken to me on the record since he's been here.


A The only thing I can say is, David had some questions this morning. He asked me those questions. I deemed it inappropriate for me to answer them, because they were technical questions that I didn't have the knowledge to. The questions that he wanted answered, Al was the person to answer them, and Al was definitely on the record with him today. So if you'll let me know what your questions are, as we described in Laguna Seca, and if Al's the right person to answer those specific questions, I'll get you in touch with Al.


Q Well, the questions would be pretty much - okay. I'll think about them. I'm sure these guys will too. But I would think it's the same thing. It's just that I think what the entire - everybody I've talked to in the paddock has had the same feeling, that it's a different motorcycle. And so that's why Al would - I know that you've explained it, but that's where everybody seems upset. It's not an 1125R. It was presented as a different motorcycle. Your press release said it's an 1125RR -


A I think you're getting hung up on the "street certified," and I think they're getting hung up on whether that means "street legal." And once again, there's not a bike that would pass any DOT standard to be street legal that's in this paddock racing American Superbike. It's based on a production model that is street legal, and that production model's the 1125R in this case. It's the GSX-R 1000 in other cases. And that's where we're at.

So that's good. Any follow-up questions, feel free to email those questions to me, and I'll make sure the right person gets in touch with you.
 
All of this bickering cracks me up.

DMG have handed out goodies to everyone in the paddock---reduced costs, higher pay, more races, HD coverage, a drastically improved website, more sponsors, etc.

It's like someone walked up to the AMA paddock and handed them a million bucks and then said, "I'm terribly sorry but I have to steal your car".

What rational person throws a fit?

The fight that has ensued over the "stolen" car has nearly destroyed the AMA. The people who seem most bent out of shape don't even participate.
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It seems like it's mainly media, AMA guru, and AMA manufacturers who watched the sport go down the tubes---they are the people who are most upset.

These Q&A sessions are becoming Quief & Answer. Why am I forced to listen to this whining, and why is the old-AMA populated with short-sighted imbeciles? The AMA is not going to be fixed or ruined by 1 Buell homologation bike. It's even worth fighting over unless the bike starts winning routinely. In which case the authenticity of the contest WILL be ruined. If Buell are back-marking and collecting data, what's the big deal?!

This is the AMERICAN Motorcycling Association. They can't draft an entirely new rules package that excludes American manufacturers. That garbage doesn't work any better than it did when the AMA tried to keep Japanese manufacturers out.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jul 17 2009, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>All of this bickering cracks me up.

DMG have handed out goodies to everyone in the paddock---reduced costs, higher pay, more races, HD coverage, a drastically improved website, more sponsors, etc.

It's like someone walked up to the AMA paddock and handed them a million bucks and then said, "I'm terribly sorry but I have to steal your car".

What rational person throws a fit?

The fight that has ensued over the "stolen" car has nearly destroyed the AMA. The people who seem most bent out of shape don't even participate.
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It seems like it's mainly media, AMA guru, and AMA manufacturers who watched the sport go down the tubes---they are the people who are most upset.

These Q&A sessions are becoming Quief & Answer. Why am I forced to listen to this whining, and why is the old-AMA populated with short-sighted imbeciles? The AMA is not going to be fixed or ruined by 1 Buell homologation bike. It's even worth fighting over unless the bike starts winning routinely. In which case the authenticity of the contest WILL be ruined. If Buell are back-marking and collecting data, what's the big deal?!

This is the AMERICAN Motorcycling Association. They can't draft an entirely new rules package that excludes American manufacturers. That garbage doesn't work any better than it did when the AMA tried to keep Japanese manufacturers out.
But they CAN draft a new rules package that includes only American manufacturers? Since this is basically what they have done, i guess the answer is yes. You still are not getting it. THIS IS NOT PRO RACING. I will say it again, you cannot run a professional race series that has a rules package based on lap times. Would you have Usain Bolt run the hundred meters with ankle weights. Maybe Albert Pujols will have to use a 20lb bat, Roger Federer has to play in rain boots. Its a ........ concept for what is supposed to be the the premier racing series in America.Is it worth fighting about, hell yes it is. Its like governments,they take little steps at a time so the stupid cant tell what is going on. The next thing you know,those small steps have turned into a full blown revokation of your rights. Same thing here. The seeds are being planted,will the sheep stand by and see what grows.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 18 2009, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But they CAN draft a new rules package that includes only American manufacturers? Since this is basically what they have done, i guess the answer is yes. You still are not getting it. THIS IS NOT PRO RACING. I will say it again, you cannot run a professional race series that has a rules package based on lap times. Would you have Usain Bolt run the hundred meters with ankle weights. Maybe Albert Pujols will have to use a 20lb bat, Roger Federer has to play in rain boots. Its a ........ concept for what is supposed to be the the premier racing series in America.Is it worth fighting about, hell yes it is. Its like governments,they take little steps at a time so the stupid cant tell what is going on. The next thing you know,those small steps have turned into a full blown revokation of your rights. Same thing here. The seeds are being planted,will the sheep stand by and see what grows.

I can't stop you from joining the herd. If you want to aid the manufacturers in their struggle against the privateers, have at it. You and everyone else can kill DMG, and then you can force the AMA to adopt WSBK rules so we can all watch close racing with "real" rules that were negotiated behind closed doors for the purpose of creating close racing. WSBK don't care about money, they only care about the purity of the sport.
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Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
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We can all watch Japanese spec bikes race around in circles for the rest of our lives, but we can pretend they're not spec because one bike is red, two bikes are blue, and one bike is lime green. We can buy into all the media hype that these companies spend millions of dollars to cram into our herd animal brains. We can pretend that riders in other series never slag the governing body or the tire manufacturers b/c there is nothing to complain about----not because they will get fined.

Povol, I'm not the one who "doesn't get it". The international motorcycle racing status quo is not in existence b/c it has some kind of implicit morality----it is just another negotiated rules package assembled by the titans of industry, international sanctioning guru, and commercials rights executives. It is infested with the same political infighting as what we've witnessed in the AMA, but the people who shape international racing aren't stupid enough to air their grievances in the press.

In the DMG model, the politics of the rules are listed in the rule book. In international racing they don't tell you any more than they have to.

Different strokes for different folks.

BTW the special allowances rules are about cost suppression. If a manufacturer spends a couple million trying to squeeze an extra 5-10hp out of the bike, the governing body can neutralize the advantage by giving the competition about $10,000 in engine mods. It's simply a cost suppression technique. BTW, Honda is the only Japanese AMA SBK that gets special allowances. Apparently the stock pistons aren't good enough.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Jul 19 2009, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can't stop you from joining the herd. If you want to aid the manufacturers in their struggle against the privateers, have at it. You and everyone else can kill DMG, and then you can force the AMA to adopt WSBK rules so we can all watch close racing with "real" rules that were negotiated behind closed doors for the purpose of creating close racing. WSBK don't care about money, they only care about the purity of the sport.
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Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
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We can all watch Japanese spec bikes race around in circles for the rest of our lives, but we can pretend they're not spec because one bike is red, two bikes are blue, and one bike is lime green. We can buy into all the media hype that these companies spend millions of dollars to cram into our herd animal brains. We can pretend that riders in other series never slag the governing body or the tire manufacturers b/c there is nothing to complain about----not because they will get fined.

Povol, I'm not the one who "doesn't get it". The international motorcycle racing status quo is not in existence b/c it has some kind of implicit morality----it is just another negotiated rules package assembled by the titans of industry, international sanctioning guru, and commercials rights executives. It is infested with the same political infighting as what we've witnessed in the AMA, but the people who shape international racing aren't stupid enough to air their grievances in the press.

In the DMG model, the politics of the rules are listed in the rule book. In international racing they don't tell you any more than they have to.

Different strokes for different folks.

BTW the special allowances rules are about cost suppression. If a manufacturer spends a couple million trying to squeeze an extra 5-10hp out of the bike, the governing body can neutralize the advantage by giving the competition about $10,000 in engine mods. It's simply a cost suppression technique. BTW, Honda is the only Japanese AMA SBK that gets special allowances. Apparently the stock pistons aren't good enough.


You know what,.... the privateers,there i said it! This quote from Mladin pretty well sums it up.



And it certainly hasn't achieved what we were told that it was going to achieve, and that is the sense of making the bikes cheaper for the privateers so they're competitive. People need to understand what "competitive" is. "Competitive" certainly isn't three seconds off the pace, or four seconds off the pace. But competitive's not one second off the pace, either. That's not competitive. So in the end, at the finish of a race, a guy in 10th now might be 40 seconds behind, instead of a minute. Does that make any difference? Does that make any difference, realistically, you know what I mean? In the end, it's a shame that the bikes that the manufacturers are racing over here.

Privateers are grid fillers, i have nothing against them personally but lets face facts. Every form of racing in the world is filled with participants that dont stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning races, and they know it,they are out ther as weekend warriors. Then you have your mid pack guys that do it for a living,they are auditioning for a better ride. Every form of racing in the world has its top riders, drivers etc that are up front weekend week out and changing rules and machinery doesnt make a ....... bit of difference.Someday,this entitled generation will wake up to the fact that everybody is not equal,that their are people out there who are just better than you,be it in stick and ball sports, racing, academics or life itself.Until then, everything will continue to be drug down so the common man can feel good about himself.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 20 2009, 07:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And it certainly hasn't achieved what we were told that it was going to achieve, and that is the sense of making the bikes cheaper for the privateers so they're competitive. People need to understand what "competitive" is. "Competitive" certainly isn't three seconds off the pace, or four seconds off the pace. But competitive's not one second off the pace, either. That's not competitive. So in the end, at the finish of a race, a guy in 10th now might be 40 seconds behind, instead of a minute. Does that make any difference? Does that make any difference, realistically, you know what I mean? In the end, it's a shame that the bikes that the manufacturers are racing over here.

Mladin is saying that DMG have simultaneously ruined the state of tune and eliminated homologation specials. Production street bikes with aftermarket parts are not really meant for racing. They are difficult to work on and they aren't nearly as adjustable as the homologation bikes that were built for the AMA.

I'm sure you've noticed that many decent privateers still don't have near factory kit either?

I don't particularly care about lap-traffic privateers. I care about the people who should be privateers but who race around in the midpack waiting for their break. They need to make their own break by racing on factory equipment as a privateer in the AMA. Successful privateers with factory equipment create more interest in the sport and deepens the talent pool.

The AMA needs to field talent from all over the world. It did in the past and it needs to do so again in the immediate future. We need more Laverty's around the paddock.
 

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