Joined Oct 2006
25K Posts | 4K+
Your Mom's House
Live updates, .... speed: http://www.allaboutbikes.com/motorc...11-daytona-200-live-updates-from-the-speedway
Joined Oct 2006
25K Posts | 4K+
Your Mom's House
Live updates, .... speed: http://www.allaboutbikes.com/motorc...11-daytona-200-live-updates-from-the-speedway
Joined Jul 2007
5K Posts | 1K+
unda cheese
Looks like they are giving it to Disalvo? Superbikeplanet twitter said that, then said waiting on official results. They have changed results a few times, all with Jason winning. Wish I could have seen it. Anybody got video?
Joined Jul 2007
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unda cheese
All the timesheets went back a lap and the initial call was to give it to Herrin. At the podium they changed up and gave it rightfully to Disalvo
Joined Oct 2006
25K Posts | 4K+
Your Mom's House
Ducati:
WSBK....check
AMA....check (pending)
MotoGP....???
EDIT: put pending cuz like i said, im gonna wait, they too Rapps 200 a few years ago for some ......... With the engine change for DiSalvo, im thinking the drama will continue for a few weeks.
WSBK....check
AMA....check (pending)
MotoGP....???
EDIT: put pending cuz like i said, im gonna wait, they too Rapps 200 a few years ago for some ......... With the engine change for DiSalvo, im thinking the drama will continue for a few weeks.
Joined Mar 2006
1K Posts | 71+
US
That is odd a team would be allowed to change an engine during a red flag. It seems to me most race series don't allow teams to work on their machines during a red flag. Is this different in bike racing? (apart from changing to rain tires)
I think a 'race' is the final achievement of the preparation that takes place BEFORE the race happens. Therefore, no changes should be allowed in a race stoppage.
But, that is my opinion.
But, that is my opinion.
It's a matter of enforcement. The competitors wanted to be able to make changes, DMG doesn't have enough personnel to make sure no one is moving the clickers on their suspension or fixing broken rear sets so they let teams make adjustments and repairs. Normally engine swapping isn't a problem b/c the races aren't stopped for 2 hours.
The 200 was an bad situation, but I don't see how they could have handled it much differently. When I guy tucks the front at 160mph on the new paved banking, the organizers have to take notice. Like Dunlop said, some competitors had already indicated that they would not make a front tire change. The stoppage wasn't the problem, what happened during the stoppage was unusual. The decision to switch to an untested (by most competitors) tire construction was very strange. I know Eslick's crash was spectacular and scary, but I thought they went a little bit overboard. It looked like Eslick was overly aggressive off the banking while trying to stay in Beach's draft. Everyone always reports front end push in the draft so I don't see the problem.
I guess it's better safe than sorry, but AFAIK only 2 people out of 50 reported serious tire problems. I think they were overly worried about the tires and the new pavement. I'm sure I'd feel differently if I were going 180mph around Daytona, but the numbers still say that the tires were fine.
Joined Feb 2007
11K Posts | 2K+
Tennessee
. Allowing a competitor to restart a race with a fresh motor, that has already gone the full distance of a normal race and then some is just stupid. I dont know of a legitimate road racing racing series in the world that allows this,car or bike. The motor you start with is the motor you finish with is the norm. Talking about an advantage This is not what i would call endurance racing, its a 2 hour race, that is unless DMG is running it, its a 6 hour race. No way that should be allowed to stand, but then again, if DMG is so short sighted not to have a rule prohibiting engine swaps, so be it. I bet we get a new Disalvo rule before the next Daytona race, maybe sooner.Its an asterisk win if there ever was one
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
I wasnt aware they changed the rules mid race, so why the protest? They all went in with rules in place. This certainly is endurance racing. It doesnt need to b 12/24 hours. If u can swap out a shock, whats the difference? Its only becuz it was an odd stopage with coincidence of good luck red flag was exactly when he had issue. Had he had failure 1 lap before, nobody would say anything. Its in the rules and they took advantage of the odd stopage. Whats the problem, except somebody not liking it? The rulebooks dont forsee everything, u hav benefit of hindsight. Yes it deserves asterisk, for one of the greatest well deserved wins, never say die, of all time.
How stupid it is to allow a whole engine change or any change on the bike for that matter on a red flag. The only changes that should be allowed are maybe if an equipment is faulty thus causing the red flag... a safety hazard for all competitors who shares the 'faulty' component, for example such as tires. Other then that there should be absolutely no reason any teams should be allowed to tinker with their bikes after the green flag is waved. Again like I said, AMA is a poorly run 'professional', and I used that word lightly, racing series.
Joined Feb 2007
11K Posts | 2K+
Tennessee
Definition of endurance racing
common lengths of endurance races has been running for 1,000 kilometres (620 mi), or roughly six hours. Longer races can run for 1,000 miles (1,600 km), 12 hours, or even 24 hours. Teams can consist of anywhere from two to four participants per event, which is dependent on the driver's endurance abilities, length of the race, or even the rules for each event.
At club level racing, a race taking either 30 minutes or 1 hour could be considered as an endurance race.
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In this case you may be right since DMG is at club level racing
The Daytona 200 is not an Endurance race
