It doesn't matter what MM rides, he will be close enough to the front to be in the cameras which pleases the sponsors so I suspect that every team on the grid would like to have him, however who can afford him and who can provide a bike he wants?
As I read somewhere. Pecco has now set the rules of engagement with Marquez. And while he will likely do so, he is now no longer in any position to moan when the tables are reversed.
Good point.
He's already taken a lesser salary at Gresini, likely paid by his sponsors as we all know. So I don't salary will be a factor, more he will need a team with a budget to either buy or develop a top bike. When it comes to KTM. Red Bull own 2 F1 teams, they could literally pay Marquez a billion dollars a year and it not affect them
And I loved it.
Crash I believe. They seemed to be mostly concerned with Bagnaia being tough and having shown MM he is going to race him with little attention to the possibility of reciprocation from MM.
I think you have selective reading. You may not be part of the Valiban but you are most definitely on the Marc hate train. You may not have a favorite rider but you definitely don't like some. Pecco's first lap was epic. His last couple were fantastic. However the move on Marc should have been a penalty based on the fact that a move like that has been in the past. I don't care if you are Marc, Pecco, or the Dali Lama that move is unacceptable. He should have had to give the position back or dropped a position after the race. Makes even worse that he made that move with intent. Thats the kind of .... that needs to be avoided and put a stop too before it gets out of hand.
What about the move made by Marc inside Mir one day earlier? Did you comment on that subject?
You mean the move Marc had to drop a position after doing? Thank you for proving my point. Marc had to drop a position which I agree with. What is there to talk about? As I said yesterday for some reason when someone hits Marc and I want to complain about that lack of punishment someone always has to bring up something Marc did. In this case a move he was given the exact penalty I am saying Pecco should have gotten for the same type of move. Thanks again for making my case.
I don't recall anyone saying he won't solely because of the GP24. He rode (for the most part) exceptionally on Sunday. However, where was he on Saturday? 7th on a GP24 and then got caught up in a crash he didn't need to.
Yeah sorry, my post was worded wrongly. I agree that Marc will race the same, but it will be perceived as going harder if that makes sense? We all seem to feel he decided to not go all out at Jerez to not risk a collision and affect future employment. I agree about Pecco, he seems to have a chip on his shoulder about Marc.
Slam dunk.
Yes, Pecco was 7th but if being on the front row was easy, everyone would be doing it. Even the "best bike" isn't always going to be on the front row. As for the crash, Binder ...... up, plain and simple, IMO. Jack Appletwat immediately tries to blame Bez. Excuse me? Binder had lost all his drive in the previous corner. What was Bez supposed to do, not go fast? Anyway, crash was not Pecco's fault is my point (IMO).
No the move Pecco made on Marc to regain the lead with 4 or so laps to go. It was the same thing Marc was penalized for in the sprint race.
The Bez, Binda, Pecco three some is a tricky one imo. Each camera angle changes my point of view. Bottom line here is 3 dicks aren't going to fit in one hole. The door was open low and Binder seemed clear of Pecco on one view but not on another. Had Binder not been there, there is a chance Pecco and Bez still would have made contact. Had Bez not been there Pecco and Binda still may have made contact. Bez and Binda most likely would have been fine if Pecco wasn't there. I would chalk this up as a racing incident. 3 dicks one hole in the end everyone blew it.
There was some trolling earlier in the thread imo but not by you. As I said you are entitled to your opinion and you argue your corner, the purpose for which sports forums exist. If you are a Bagnaia fan he has given you every reason to be. He is a dual premier class title winner who rode brilliantly to close out both titles. His remarkable first lap, the laps which put pressure on Martin, and the closing laps particularly the one when he set the lap record were all particular examples of brilliant riding among others and reasons he won the race. His riposte to MM's pass was also a reason he won the race but not so much an example of brilliant riding in the opinion of several posters on here including me and we I believe are also entitled to our opinions..
Not everyone is on a GP24 and he is lauded as one of the most talented riders on the grid, and second to Marquez in championships. My point was on a clear track on Saturday, which admittedly was tricky, he messed his lap up which left him 7th and at the mercy of an accident which admittedly wasn't his fault
I don't disagree, but the track conditions were also unusual and 7 other riders crashed because of them. The 6 riders in front of Bagnaia in qualifying didn't mess up their laps.
Sorry, I was referring to separate incidents:
You can't say a leading rider knows something is coming. If a rider attempting to make a pass contacts a rider its 100% his fault. You cannot blame a rider who just made an over take or a rider who was leading such as Mir. Its within their right to not get pushed wide due to contact. Had Marc left the door open and contact wasn't made fine but that wasn't the case. Pecco even admitted he knew there would be contact. Thats not ok. Marc and Pecco's moves were the same and if one is a penalty so is the other.
