Murder Marc almost kill 2 riders with his over top aggressive ...... Out of 23 riders, only one who can not control his bike. After he clearly got hit hard from behind he decide to keep racing instead of going out of racing line and then almost killed Nakagami. He could have easily been hit by another rider. .... for brains Marquez 100% responsible for both crashes but the 2nd one was unacceptable. He should have gotten out of the way, he has no business in championship and no business being on racing line after a hit to the rear wheel like that. No race ban? This guy should sit out the rest of the year for this.
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.... off. We all saw it. It's racing, .... happens sometimes.
Sooo, the guy who consistently saves what should be crashes cannot control his bike? Come on, you should know how daft of a statement that is. I'm not quite sure how grounded in reality comments are, or if people are so locked into their own view of distaste they can't cope with racing. Were people calling for the trial of Pecco when he washed his front in and took out another rider in Qatar? Were people drawing comparisons of Napoleon to Fabio when he took out Aleix? It was classified as "feeling the pressure". I will say the Marc/Fabio situation was for sure a racing incident, was very bold riding. It happens tho. The Taka crash had him coming around the outside, also a bold move on his part, and they aren't driving down the highway with mirrors on. Heres a take, maybe Marc is also "feeling the pressure". He knows his time is getting shorter. He needs results, and needs to get the bike back on track. If racing is too much of a trigger for you, maybe try Golf?
Well, Aragon wasn't really what I was expecting. It was nice to see Bastianini ride to his full potential, unlike Misano when he seemed to just follow Bagnaia around until he made a mistake on the last lap. Enea went by early. He made a mistake, and lost the lead until the final laps, but he was aggressive, and it indicates Ducati are somewhat invested in letting their riders race one another. Brad Binder had an amazing ride on the KTM. Not sure why KTM was suddenly on the pace, and I haven't seen anything in the race media about it. Aleix also had a solid race, while his teammate had a round qualifying, and got trapped in the midpack melee, despite running lap times similar to the guys at the front. The same happened to Luca Marini who was running times similar to the leaders, even setting a couple of fast laps, but he couldn't get in position to score.
Normally, I'm one of the first people to jump on Marquez for dangerous riding. It's his modus operandi, and one of his most indominable traits. He will go elbows out as often as possible, and occasionally for no reason. That said, I don't think he is at fault for what happened on Sunday. It's unfortunate that he pushed to come back at Aragon to begin 2023 testing because it doesn't seem he was quite ready to jump into the middle of a hotly contested season. But I don't think what happened between he and Fabio was a racing incident, and I think Fabio is mostly to blame in an indirect fashion. He spent the entirety of Saturday afternoon blabbing to the press about how he was going to ride extra aggressively and make contact with other riders, if necessary. You can't put yourself in that frame of mind for 24 hours between qualifying and the race, and then be outraged when you're on the receiving end of contact that ends your race. Plus, if he were the rider dishing out the fairing bashing, and knocking people off line, the stewards would have basically had a signed confession from his remarks on Saturday, and he's already been penalized. Fabio still has a lot of growing up to do, imo.
Anyway, it was a decent race thanks to Bastianini hanging with Pecco, but overall its getting a bit like F1. A bunch of guys following one another around, hesitant to make a lunge because it takes half a race to recover from a mistake. It took Enea 10-12 laps to recover from running wide. Something needs to change. Shapeshifters have created a single racing line. Reminds me of car racing.
Normally, I'm one of the first people to jump on Marquez for dangerous riding. It's his modus operandi, and one of his most indominable traits. He will go elbows out as often as possible, and occasionally for no reason. That said, I don't think he is at fault for what happened on Sunday. It's unfortunate that he pushed to come back at Aragon to begin 2023 testing because it doesn't seem he was quite ready to jump into the middle of a hotly contested season. But I don't think what happened between he and Fabio was a racing incident, and I think Fabio is mostly to blame in an indirect fashion. He spent the entirety of Saturday afternoon blabbing to the press about how he was going to ride extra aggressively and make contact with other riders, if necessary. You can't put yourself in that frame of mind for 24 hours between qualifying and the race, and then be outraged when you're on the receiving end of contact that ends your race. Plus, if he were the rider dishing out the fairing bashing, and knocking people off line, the stewards would have basically had a signed confession from his remarks on Saturday, and he's already been penalized. Fabio still has a lot of growing up to do, imo.
Anyway, it was a decent race thanks to Bastianini hanging with Pecco, but overall its getting a bit like F1. A bunch of guys following one another around, hesitant to make a lunge because it takes half a race to recover from a mistake. It took Enea 10-12 laps to recover from running wide. Something needs to change. Shapeshifters have created a single racing line. Reminds me of car racing.
What are you smoking? Comparing front end washout with the type of over aggressive riding by maniac Marc trying to get to lead on cold tires. Please. Taka had to go on the outside because the little maniac was slowing down on the racing line, he had no where else to go because the maniac should have moved over to make sure there was no damage to his bike. This small ....... ....... need to be banned for the rest of the season. One day he will kill somebody.
Right, he should have taken a more appropriate and classy approach of kicking Taka off in a slower corner. I’ve been more than happy to call him out when he’s over ridden. It’s happened a lot. That I don’t see how someone slamming into the back of him is his fault. Especially when Fabio was stating how aggressive he was going to be. He gets a free pas in the deal? Riders lose winglets frequently enough and keep racing along with other fairing bashing. Marc has had some clear moron moments in his career, this wasn’t one of them.
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That's really stupid, he damaged his bike in T3, noticed sth is not right in T5 and stopped the race after T7... So we are speaking of a timespan of maybe 15seconds or less.... Exactly when should they have black flagged him? What do you think how long it takes until a black flag is decided By race directions and then showed by a Marshall?5 seconds or what?
Interesting that Fabs was blabbing, I thought he’d gotten over that. Mostly over the course of this season I had felt he had “grown up” and was handling himself with more verbal self control. Perhaps this mid season has gotten to him.
I like to think he will take this opportunity to recalibrate and take another step forward.
I like to think he will take this opportunity to recalibrate and take another step forward.
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I watched the moto2 race tonight. It was better. They can still overtake, there was far more passing.
You are spot on. They have cocked it up with all the aero crap and ride height devices in the motoGP class now. It appears just too much harder to pass.
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“Forget about the social media side of things. I mean, people that don't race motorcycles probably don't quite see it the way that it actually is. That's got to be the underlying thing,” said former Grand Prix rider and British Champion Keith Huewen.
“But for me, it's all the clickbait merchants and people sitting behind keyboards who are writing for whatever publication and even some television commentators, I’ve got to say.
“When you’ve got a non-racing tubby journo behind his keyboard trying to emulate a 5 times, 6 times 7 times or in this case 8 times world champion, it just gets right up my nose!
“It's hysteria for clickbait. I can't stand it. It drives me absolutely insane. The fact of the matter is, it was a reflex action by Marquez.
“If you look at all of the races, everybody was having a little bit of grip trouble early on in an opening lap. But it's also an opportunity to make up places. We all do it, everyone that races a motorbike, everybody that races anything. If there's an opportunity to make up space in those first two or three bends, you will make it up.
“Marc Marquez went round the outside [at Turn 1]. He was getting himself in a good position and the back just let go on him a little bit.
“It happens, it spun up. The traction control would have been set for a little bit more grip, so therefore it didn't bang in perhaps like it would have done if it had been a lap or two later when there was a bit more heat in the tyres.
“But then the hysteria - there was one person speculating whether he did it on purpose! I mean, what goes on in these people's heads? I've got no clue at all.
“Marquez wouldn't even be thinking about shutting the throttle. It would have been just a reflex roll [off] to get the thing back in line. And unfortunately for the likes of Quartararo, he was in close behind because he's trying to take advantage.
“Quartararo will have been annoyed, but even Lin Jarvis said it's a racing incident.
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