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2017 Gran Premio Motul de la Comunitat Valenciana

Alex Asparagus now there's a big crasher along with Miller.
Difference is they haven't MM's ability.

What I really can't understand is there are better riders than A Asparagus who next year have no seat and what has he done in 8 years racing, a single 2nd place and again a 3rd, when you consider how often he crashes, he's cost teams millions in repairs and hasn't contributed a single thing.
 
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Alex Asparagus now there's a big crasher along with Miller.
Difference is they haven't MM's ability.

The commentators were talking about it in context to how odd a potential and former world champion crash so much and still compete for the championship. But to me most of MM's crashes happen on hot laps when he is pushing just a little bit more. Its like he needed to know that he isn't leaving any time on the track. He bins to find the limit. It's amazing.
 
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Alex Asparagus now there's a big crasher along with Miller.
Difference is they haven't MM's ability.

What I really can't understand is there are better riders than A Asparagus who next year have no seat and what has he done in 8 years racing, a single 2nd place and again a 3rd, when you consider how often he crashes, he's cost teams millions in repairs and hasn't contributed a single thing.

I think you're being a bit rough on him. He did a really good job on the CRTs, he did well enough on the Suzuki he certainly wasn't embarrassed by Vinales and the Aprilia doesn't look to be a great bike either. He's never had a satellite or factory Honda, Yamaha or Ducati so is doing as well as could be expected.
 
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I think you're being a bit rough on him. He did a really good job on the CRTs, he did well enough on the Suzuki he certainly wasn't embarrassed by Vinales and the Aprilia doesn't look to be a great bike either. He's never had a satellite or factory Honda, Yamaha or Ducati so is doing as well as could be expected.

I don't think so, when you take a look at some of the other riders who have been ditched and yet have a better record, regardless of the bike they are on. Granted that the factory bikes will only employ a rider that 1 brings sponsorship and 2 has only ever ridden factory bikes. I must admit I put the blame for this on Dorna, they are a bunch of crooks.
 
Ride of the weekend, Aleix Espargaro. Just 20 days removed from a broken hand, sick as a dog too. It's a comeback that Jesus would be proud of. I've really enjoyed all the reporters asking the entire paddock to comment on such a heroic comeback. I particularly enjoyed the Oxley feature on Krop's website regarding the difficulty of riding a GP machine with a still healing broken hand. I didn’t realize the g-forces on a hand that braking and accelerating at Valencia could exert on the rider, it's almost like A . Espargaro's pain threshold is non existent. The articles written on it have been excellent, really giving the double CRT World Champion his props.

That Ducati is looking pretty easy to ride at all the tracks not in Austria. Regardless of what happens tomorrow, the ride of the season has been Dovi, worst bike of the top 5 in points, contending to the very end.



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Alex Asparagus now there's a big crasher along with Miller.
Difference is they haven't MM's ability.

What I really can't understand is there are better riders than A Asparagus who next year have no seat and what has he done in 8 years racing, a single 2nd place and again a 3rd, when you consider how often he crashes, he's cost teams millions in repairs and hasn't contributed a single thing.
Aleix has a teammate out there who he's spanked all season. They don't have MM's ability, nor the top GP all around package in the series either. Aleix should be judged against those on similar parity to his outfit, in that regard he's done very well.

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He's making a habit of that, 27 times isn't it this year.

27 times. That's got to be ironic Mike. Don'tcha think?

Or maybe not. Language is so confusing these days. Ladies bathroom, contender, who knows what things mean anymore
 
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27 times. That's got to be ironic Mike. Don'tcha think?

Or maybe not. Language is so confusing these days. Ladies bathroom, contender, who knows what things mean anymore

Its like raaaaiiiiiin on race day. A free ride but traffic is lame. Its good advise that you just didnt take.
 
27 times. That's got to be ironic Mike. Don'tcha think?

Or maybe not. Language is so confusing these days. Ladies bathroom, contender, who knows what things mean anymore

Actually if you believe irony is involved in the context concerned you are probably betraying a misunderstanding of the term similar to that displayed in the Alanis Morisette song.

I agree with MDub about MM's current crashing. His crashes now are mostly gentle lowsides which do little or no damage to him or the bike, and if exploring the limits in practice means he doesn't crash in the races perhaps even of tactical and strategic benefit.

Miller, Espargaro and Iannone are more your old fashioned gratuitous crashers, although Miller does seem to be riding smarter and better of late, and like others I give Aleix credit for how he has performed given the equipment he has had.
 
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Mr play it safe was afraid to ride, he packed his suuuitcase when Marc was hired, he tossed his whole damn life, for a groupie wife, all the fish in the hole said, well isn't this nice
 
Mr play it safe was afraid to ride, he packed his suuuitcase when Marc was hired, he tossed his whole damn life, for a groupie wife, all the fish in the hole said, well isn't this nice

Too peurile to offend anyone, even me, besides displaying some confusion with the time line of events.
 
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That Ducati is looking pretty easy to ride at all the tracks not in Austria. Regardless of what happens tomorrow, the ride of the season has been Dovi, worst bike of the top 5 in points, contending to the very end.



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Pencil him in for the win, it’s the fastest bike afterall. The handy thing about the pencil is it’s not permanent, it can be erased. Marquez’s name will be engraved permanently on the trophy, and all credit to him, he’s an amazing rider for sure. What won’t be engraved on the trophy though will be the miraculous efforts of Dovi. He explained something about riding the Ducati I found very revealing. Compared to the others, it still doesn’t turn. To compensate Dovi has to use more lean angle and this results in more tire wear. Every corner of every track on the calendar Dovi has to put in more effort because he’s at a disadvantage. His one advantage is to get to the exit and open that mighty throttle to unleash the beast.

I can’t believe there are still people who maintain this is an advantage. People actually believe Marquez was the one disadvantaged on the difficult Honda? It was amusing seeing Marquez run up and threaten to kick the Mishitelin front tire after his crash. Thing is he knows exactly why he crashed and just has to dial it down ever so slightly because he’s fastest. Compare that to say Stoners experience of riding a Ducati. A. When he lost the front of the pig he often didn’t know why, it gave no warning. B if he tried to dial it down it wouldn’t work, the bike gave him only one option, ride all out in that tiny window or finish 10th.

But Rossi fixed all that when he developed the Ducati into a Yamaha. Meanwhile Rossi is now busy developing the Yamaha into a pig Ducati. The commentators have an absolute hard on for the mentally destroyed Vinales. They can’t explain why he was able to dominate preseason and the first few races before the switch to tire 070. It’s inconcievable the Yamaha might of actually been developed for the softer tire. Someone needs to explain this to poor old Vinales. You’re championship run was derailed by your teammate after you showed him up. Let’s all welcome Vinales to the toxic environment. Upon reflection it’s amazing how good a rider Lorenzo must of been to have dealt with this year in year out and remained competitive. He might just help the Ducati turn a shade of blue some day, while Yamaha and Vinales are seeing red.
 
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Pencil him in for the win, it’s the fastest bike afterall. The handy thing about the pencil is it’s not permanent, it can be erased. Marquez’s name will be engraved permanently on the trophy, and all credit to him, he’s an amazing rider for sure. What won’t be engraved on the trophy though will be the miraculous efforts of Dovi. He explained something about riding the Ducati I found very revealing. Compared to the others, it still doesn’t turn. To compensate Dovi has to use more lean angle and this results in more tire wear. Every corner of every track on the calendar Dovi has to put in more effort because he’s at a disadvantage. His one advantage is to get to the exit and open that mighty throttle to unleash the beast.

I can’t believe there are still people who maintain this is an advantage. People actually believe Marquez was the one disadvantaged on the difficult Honda? It was amusing seeing Marquez run up and threaten to kick the Mishitelin front tire after his crash. Thing is he knows exactly why he crashed and just has to dial it down ever so slightly because he’s fastest. Compare that to say Stoners experience of riding a Ducati. A. When he lost the front of the pig he often didn’t know why, it gave no warning. B if he tried to dial it down it wouldn’t work, the bike gave him only one option, ride all out in that tiny window or finish 10th.

But Rossi fixed all that when he developed the Ducati into a Yamaha. Meanwhile Rossi is now busy developing the Yamaha into a pig Ducati. The commentators have an absolute hard on for the mentally destroyed Vinales. They can’t explain why he was able to dominate preseason and the first few races before the switch to tire 070. It’s inconcievable the Yamaha might of actually been developed for the softer tire. Someone needs to explain this to poor old Vinales. You’re championship run was derailed by your teammate after you showed him up. Let’s all welcome Vinales to the toxic environment. Upon reflection it’s amazing how good a rider Lorenzo must of been to have dealt with this year in year out and remained competitive. He might just help the Ducati turn a shade of blue some day, while Yamaha and Vinales are seeing red.
I was actually at the NHRA drag races this weekend and saw this, 10,000hp, aero package, and all the tire grip you'd ever need. Easy to drive too. I'm not sure why they let Honda and Yamaha compete against it, it's a total lopsided contest. Thing practically drives itself too, thanks to superior electronics of course.

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I was actually at the NHRA drag races this weekend and saw this, 10,000hp, aero package, and all the tire grip you'd ever need. Easy to drive too. I'm not sure why they let Honda and Yamaha compete against it, it's a total lopsided contest. Thing practically drives itself too, thanks to superior electronics of course.


If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.

Haha yeah 325 mph made me think of the Ducati. Do drag cars go around any corners? Maybe we can change the Valencia layout so it just goes straight. I would be brave enough to pencil Dovi in for the win in that case.
 
Haha yeah 325 mph made me think of the Ducati. Do drag cars go around any corners? Maybe we can change the Valencia layout so it just goes straight. I would be brave enough to pencil Dovi in for the win in that case.

Dovi? He has nothing to do with it.



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Haha yeah 325 mph made me think of the Ducati. Do drag cars go around any corners? Maybe we can change the Valencia layout so it just goes straight. I would be brave enough to pencil Dovi in for the win in that case.

Just put some 3" wings on the side and that .... will turn like Tron
 
Bad for Dovi, he's just behind the biggest crasher in motogp, plus of course Rossi won't help, he's only in it for himself. No we need Pedro to do a 2006 overtake that goes .... and wipes JLo out :( before he can do the same to MM :(

Really? I didn't think Cal was in the top ten...
 

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