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WTF have Yamaha done!!!!?

They hired a has been rider who hasnt been relevant in half a decade.

Actually coming up on 7 years. In all seriousness , not relevant?. I mean he did finish 3rd in 2010 and since his return has finished 4th 2nd 2nd. Thats pretty relevant. I really dislike the goofy ...., but he is talented, probably the 3rd best in the world at the moment.
 
Kind of makes you wonder about that whole Rossi develops bikes thing....



To keep beating this drum for a second .............

We hear that VR is an amazing developmental rider ..............

Who for a number of years had a guy called Colin Edwards as a team mate who it was said was a sensational development rider and if memory serves right he continues to play a role in the ongoing development of or at Yamaha .................

So, is VR the developmental god or is Edwards the developmental god?

Sure one can say that Edwards style is similar to VR's and as such, he can assist VR but then that means that CE is the development rider, just as the reverse is true?

Whilst we may never know for sure (and personally I do suspect that VR is pretty damn good) it is just an interesting point that I have heard for years and always thought that the adulation forwarded to one for developing goes a way to cancelling the likewise for the other
 
Vinales would have been a fool if he stayed with Suzuki.

Lorenzo at the top of his game is the only one capable of contending against MM riding as he is this year even on a problematic bike imo. If Honda manage to fix their bike it is all over.

I am underwhelmed by Vinales and expect Rossi to be better than him (but not MM) next year.

And however you might try to spin it choosing a 37 year old who last won a title in 2009, however great he was at his peak, over a guy at the peak of his career who has won your 3 most recent titles including the one most recently decided is clearly not a purely racing decision; Yamaha pretty much made that choice when they decided not to recognise/celebrate that title win btw.
 
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Lorenzo at the top of his game is the only one capable of contending against MM riding as he is this year even on a problematic bike imo. If Honda manage to fix their bike it is all over.

I am underwhelmed by Vinales and expect Rossi to be better than him (but not MM) next year.

And however you might try to spin it choosing a 37 year old who last won a title in 2009, however great he was at his peak, over a guy at the peak of his career who has won your 3 most recent titles including the one most recently decided is clearly not a purely racing decision; Yamaha pretty much made that choice when they decided not to recognise/celebrate that title win btw.

Lorenzo pretty much made that choice when he campaigned for a DQ on another Yamaha employee. If he didn't want to stay with Yamaha because he feels they don't appreciate him then that's his choice. If he can't manage to be competitive on the GP17, he may find Ducati will not be showing him much appreciation either.
 
You're wrong it was certainly Yamahas choice indirectly by their mishandling of 2015, Lorenzo has long been a vocal component of safe racing he also validly bought up when he was banned from racing for dangerous riding despite no deliberate non racing moves that resulted in another rider being taken out. Lorenzo and/or the rest of the grid had the right to say that Rossi should've been DQ from the next race at the failure of the black flag in Sepang. If Marquez did the same thing to Rossi I'm sure the punishment would've been much more severe. I'm also completely sure that the rumours of Lorenzo at race direction making demands were proven to be ......... He asked to be present and give evidence at the CAS hearing and I'm sure that's because ALL at he riders know that underhanded things happen when Rossi's future is at steak.
 
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Lorenzo pretty much made that choice when he campaigned for a DQ on another Yamaha employee. If he didn't want to stay with Yamaha because he feels they don't appreciate him then that's his choice. If he can't manage to be competitive on the GP17, he may find Ducati will not be showing him much appreciation either.

That's it in a nutshell.

Yes Rossi is more popular than Lorenzo, and yes Rossi is largely allowed to do whatever he likes in the effort to win championships while other riders don't have such carte blanche.

I duly note that you don't dispute that Yamaha's decision was made for non-racing reasons.
 
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Actually coming up on 7 years. In all seriousness , not relevant?. I mean he did finish 3rd in 2010 and since his return has finished 4th 2nd 2nd. Thats pretty relevant. I really dislike the goofy ...., but he is talented, probably the 3rd best in the world at the moment.

3rd out of a 4 bike competition. Really only 3 because Pedrosa is pathetic. He was gifted last year and failed miserably.
Im regularly dismissed when I say Ducati wont win races and Rossi wont win any championships.
I keep being right, week after week, year after year, yet Im the crazy one.
Were halfway through the season and he's been out of contention since Mugello.
I would say that the only thing relevant about Rossi in 2016 is how much money he brings to Dorna.
 
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3rd out of a 4 bike competition. Really only 3 because Pedrosa is pathetic. He was gifted last year and failed miserably.
Im regularly dismissed when I say Ducati wont win races and Rossi wont win any championships.
I keep being right, week after week, year after year, yet Im the crazy one.
Were halfway through the season and he's been out of contention since Mugello.
I would say that the only thing relevant about Rossi in 2016 is how much money he brings to Dorna.

Guess you missed the race after Mugello.
 
The one when he was around 40 points behind in points?

Nah Johhny

He means the one where VR walked on water whilst blessing the kids who were trackside at the banquet that had been put on by team VR to thank the research team that he led whilst they found a cure for cancer whilst curing world hunger and whilst discussing world peace with the pope.
 
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Lorenzo pretty much made that choice when he campaigned for a DQ on another Yamaha employee. If he didn't want to stay with Yamaha because he feels they don't appreciate him then that's his choice. If he can't manage to be competitive on the GP17, he may find Ducati will not be showing him much appreciation either.

Wow !!! Do you understand the .... you confess.
 
Ianoone gets last on the starting grid for an accident, Rossi gets last on the grid for blatantly wrecking a competitor. How can those two incidents possibly have the same punishment
 
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Rossi can't develop ..... Burgess made that Yamaha and it's pretty much the same now. He made the original 4 stroke Honda too. Yes he made a below par duc but then Rossi lost faith sacked him and has been clueless since in terms of develop.
 
Rossi can't develop ..... Burgess made that Yamaha and it's pretty much the same now. He made the original 4 stroke Honda too. Yes he made a below par duc but then Rossi lost faith sacked him and has been clueless since in terms of develop.

I have to admit things have gone downhill since Burgess went.
 

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