The Michael Schumacher Debate

Just take part in the poll above please and see what the majority of the forum think. I personally think he should to be honest, so I voted yes.

you forgot a category

Id say yes, and should quit before he lands himself in any more trouble...besides Alonso and co have got the measure of him.

I couldn't care less.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ May 31 2006, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I couldn't care less.
Then why post?

The sooner the better. Competitiveness is good, but he is obsessive and will do absolutely anything, including putting himself and others in danger, just to win. I cannot respect a driver like that or say he should be allowed to race. He's a danger to himself and more importantly, to Alonso. Its not the first time he's tried to take him out. For general drivers safety, I say get Schuey out.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ May 31 2006, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Then why post?

Because there' s no "I don't care what that cheater does" option in the poll.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ May 31 2006, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because there' s no "I don't care what that cheater does" option in the poll.
If I was a driver on the F1 track I would of hurt Schumacher by now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ May 31 2006, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I couldn't care less.
ditto , hence why he forgot a category

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ Jun 1 2006, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because there' s no "I don't care what that cheater does" option in the poll.

Or "Move to Ducati" option for that matter.

I am not joining the pool of people that has been attacking Schumi lately because of what he did (or he did not, whichever you want to believe) in Monaco. Nobody really knows what exactly happened, but... It's time he bid farewell to his car and to his team.

Whether or not he really deliberately parked his car on that last corner, for me, that issue (and its sensational aftermath) was the ultimate sign that Schumi has to go.

Oh come ON....Ok he pulled a really STUPID move in Monaco but he IS one of the greatest racers in recent history. He is the only one to even get near ......... Alonso.
I hate what he did but he is an amazing driver. Whaa he did something dumb and now he has to leave racing...whaa..
He got caught and punished...Let it go...

spot on doc, teo uve got to say no, ur man is a great driver and ms is 2nd mainly against a very good racer,, ms is a legend, and we know every one hates a great champion.. i said no..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doctor @ Jun 28 2006, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He is the only one to even get near ......... Alonso.
Raikkonen can also cause Alfonso problems.

Wrong Rossi_46_Winner, I have nothing against Rossi, Sainz and Loeb are both great people and drivers, Fangio was a racing legend, as was Senna, and I have enormous respect for Colin Mcrae.
Schumacher, regardless of his undoubted talent as a driver, is a crap sportsperson, and I simply cannot respect someone like that. It's not the first time he's pulled such a stunt, and it would be stupid to just turn a blind eye to his poor moral standards on the track simply because he's a great driver. Being a good, or even great driver does not excuse you from the same accountability and standards you would expect from any other driver.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I hate what he did but he is an amazing driver. Whaa he did something dumb and now he has to leave racing...whaa..
1) Its not the first time he did "something dumb".
2) Its more than something dumb, its potentially dangerous.
3) It reflects badly on the sport, showing the reigning champion of however many years as being a cheat.
4) It reflects badly on Ferrari, being associated with such a man, a man who resorts to cheating when he can't win fairly. Thats why, for their own sake, they need to ditch him.
5) Lets face it, Schuey isn't as fast as he was, and the competition is getting tougher. Leave now, and he'll be remembered as one of the greats. Keep going, he won't get any more championships or many more wins, and one more incident like that in Monaco could tarnish his reputation irreperably, and every time someone says "Schumacher was a great driver" someone else will come back with "he won by cheating". May not be true, but stories get exaggerated, and with so many examples, who'd doubt it?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IsraeliRacer @ Jun 29 2006, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wrong Rossi_46_Winner, I have nothing against Rossi, Sainz and Loeb are both great people and drivers, Fangio was a racing legend, as was Senna, and I have enormous respect for Colin Mcrae.
Schumacher, regardless of his undoubted talent as a driver, is a crap sportsperson, and I simply cannot respect someone like that. It's not the first time he's pulled such a stunt, and it would be stupid to just turn a blind eye to his poor moral standards on the track simply because he's a great driver. Being a good, or even great driver does not excuse you from the same accountability and standards you would expect from any other driver.
1) Its not the first time he did "something dumb".
2) Its more than something dumb, its potentially dangerous.
3) It reflects badly on the sport, showing the reigning champion of however many years as being a cheat.
4) It reflects badly on Ferrari, being associated with such a man, a man who resorts to cheating when he can't win fairly. Thats why, for their own sake, they need to ditch him.


Well...I've picked no.
Mostly i agree with rossi 46 winner and The Doctor...M.S. is a great champion and a very good and experienced driver...and what MS did in monaco...was done - at smaller - but still dangerous - scale by montoya and rosberg in other sessions...
No i don't want to see Schumi retired becouse i can't see ferrari without him ...and i think kimi is a something like nicky hayden...never can beat the no 1 rider..nicky can't beat rossi like kimi can't beat alonso...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IsraeliRacer @ Jun 29 2006, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>) Lets face it, Schuey isn't as fast as he was, and the competition is getting tougher. Leave now, and he'll be remembered as one of the greats. Keep going, he won't get any more championships or many more wins, and one more incident like that in Monaco could tarnish his reputation irreperably, and every time someone says "Schumacher was a great driver" someone else will come back with "he won by cheating". May not be true, but stories get exaggerated, and with so many examples, who'd doubt it?

he's still fast..he can beat alonso if the car would be better...but remember he's a driver that can switch the strategy in a race from 3 pitstops to 2 pitstops..he constantly beats kimi... i think he's fast enough.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IsraeliRacer @ Jun 29 2006, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>1) Its not the first time he did "something dumb".
2) Its more than something dumb, its potentially dangerous.

I personally consider that montoya is a dangerous driver...not schumi...

The question is what you expect of him, and people expect of Schuey wins. Not second places. The "his car isn't as good as the others" does not hold water. Rossi would have been somewhere around the bottom of the table when he joined Yamaha had that been true. A truly great driver is a truly great driver no matter what the car.
Besides, I am certain Ferrari would not like their image to be second place. Especially not to Renault


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I personally consider that montoya is a dangerous driver...not schumi...
Utterly irrelevant. In 250's I consider Lorenzo a dangerous rider, does that mean I can't consider Barbera a dangerous rider? Problem is, the spotlight most of the time is on Schuey, not Montoya.

f1 should be banned or atleast carry a health warning.. "Danger, u will be put to sleep if u watch this"

Danger: Alonso winning again.

The new F1 slogan:
Danger: Overtaking outside of the pit lane is forbidden!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dan @ Jun 30 2006, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>f1 should be banned or atleast carry a health warning.. "Danger, u will be put to sleep if u watch this"


Dan ... you are spot on!