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So did MM protect Lorenzo ?

He also said that he didn't kick, nor that he wanted to run Marquez of track. Still waiting for his apologies, by the way.

The thing is ... Marquez gave Rossi some of his own medicine. And Rossi didn't like it. :cold:

How humiliating it must be to be banned once and come back as the village ..... with another name
 
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I didnt really get the feeling during the race that Marquez is protecting Lorenzo, but now that I think about it he was always behind him at least in the last laps and not once did he try to overtake him, yet when Pedrosa overtook him, all of a sudden Marquez gets all racey.

Of course he did,i'm a neutral and just a fan of the sport but it was pretty obvious he didn't try to get past like he would have if Rossi was leading,and he didn't want Pedrosa to try and pass Lorenzo either so he fought straight back at him,no surprises really after Rossi's comments and the bad blood between them
 
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that was a dig at the mr hyde side of yours. I do not think that VR is better deserved champion than JLo, I am disgusted with the actions of MM and HRC. You are the one who associated yourself (by 'likes' etc) with some of the notorious Rossi haters on this forum.

The Mr.Hyde side??? - You mean the one that does not accord with your viewpoint?

Ha! Guilty by association?? Indicted by 'likes etc'. with some of the 'notorious Rossi haters on this forum'???!!?? (JK, you were right all along about that damn button). Which leads you through your impeccable powers of reasoning and deduction to this conclusion...

What drives the Rossi haters like Arab is not the love of the sport but the hate of Rossi. To reason with them is not possible.

'Not the love of the sport' - Please feel free to elaborate.

As I mentioned last week, I don't have a favourite rider and as I stated earlier today, I detest the tribalism on here...
I don't hate Rossi, and I don't agree.

Props to Vale, props to Jorge. So glad it's the close of play, and within a few weeks all this tribal ..... and trolling will have faded away along with the glory hunting fly by night fanboy ephemeral membership on both sides.

If you want to talk racing stick around...the 'supers kick off in just over three months time.

If you wish to continue this discussion in respect of 'true love for this sport' I would be delighted to do so coming from someone who pledged last week on this forum that they only care about 'idolising Valentino Rossi'.
 
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100% I never got the feeling MM was pushing it. You see him drift here and there but nothing what he is normally like when pushing it! I think MM did it so Rossi didn't win!
 
Marquez did protect Lorenzo in my opinion. But he did no such thing at Philip Island. The aggressive Iannone was more an issue for Rossi there than Marquez was. Not having a crack at Iannone though huh Vale?
But Rossi mouthing off about Philip Island & Marquez when he won the friggin race was baffling & you could tell it pissed Marquez off big time. The Sepang press conference was a calculated mind game by Rossi & it backfired on him big time.

Fastest guy for the year won the championship in the end.
 
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It is very hard for you to find evident that Marc protect Lorenzo but if you ask me did he try hard enough to win, I would say no. Did Marc have the edge ... yes. But I promise you this. If the one in frotn is Rossi. Bet is different story.
Also clearly seen when Pedrosa make a move Marc was a bit aggressive which is quite normal in real life but when you look the full package scene, you may or may not felt Marc give an unintentional body language stay out of this. Pedro than back off and felt no point fighting.
Anyway it is very clear when Rossi have to start from back, he will never win the World Champion title. Seriously Lorenzo win World Champion is not wrong cause he is indeed capable of but the issue this year is Marc make the ending so bad that many or not felt was helped by Marc. Many Marc fan will argue no but that does not matter anymore. MotoGP has always not about sport alone but politic and business.
 
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but the issue this year is Marc make the ending so bad that many or not felt was helped by Marc. Many Marc fan will argue no but that does not matter anymore. MotoGP has always not about sport alone but politic and business.

The issue is not Marc but Rossi. First, he took Marc out in Argentina. Then, he started playing mindgames with the sole purpose to make sure nobody would fight him in his quest for the title and in this process he made Marc the black sheep of the story throwing dirt on his reputation. Then, he kicked him out in Sepang, claimed it was not his intention but at the same time never apologized for it but called Marc a .......o instead. This is not the reaction of someone that did not have the intention to kick Marc out of the race. In the contrary, it shows that he did it on purpose and doesn't regret it. Fourth, he made such a mess for Marquez that even 2 morronic Italian reporters went to his house to give him the ".... cup", which ended in a fight. Seriously, if Marc made Rossi lose the championship that's still nothing. If Rossi would have done half to me what he did to Marc I would have publicly punched him in the face.
 
I don't have a preference in who wins. I love the sport but I have to say Marquez is a sketchy rider, the way he was overtaking Rossi in sepang was in called for, also what Rossi did in return was also uncalled for! And now after seeing today's race I am more disappointed in Marquez than I was with Rossi in sepang! He was playing a game to ensure Rossi did not win the title! He had more pace than Lorenzo which was clear when he had that little battle with pedrosa yet held off ensuring Lorenzo won! That's a true scumbag
 
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Uhu. We believe you. Kicking a rider off track is less worse than not overtake a rider.

I'm sure you believe he kicked him off because you prefer Marquez and you will stand by what you think because of that! In that accident I saw Marquez turn the bike into Rossi causing the bike to catch his leg, you see what you want to see! And today I saw Marquez riding very sheepishly to ensure Rossi does not win the title! To me that is cheating and being sly about it.

To be honest, I don't want any of them to win next year. I want pedrosa to win it which I think he deserves more than anyone
 
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I'm sure you believe he kicked him off because you prefer Marquez and you will stand by what you think because of that!
No, no. I am just like you. I don't have a preference who wins. Though, I do have one for who loses :giggle:. Well, Christmas came early this year :giggle:

In that accident I saw Marquez turn the bike into Rossi causing the bike to catch his leg, you see what you want to see! And today I saw Marquez riding very sheepishly to ensure Rossi does not win the title! To me that is cheating and being sly about it.
Good to read you understand yourself why you are saying this nonsense.

To be honest, I don't want any of them to win next year. I want pedrosa to win it which I think he deserves more than anyone
Of course, slowness makes you deserve championships. (No offence, Dani, but compared to JL and MM you are a turtle)
 
Of course, slowness makes you deserve championships. (No offence, Dani, but compared to JL and MM you are a turtle)

And yet, another 'turtle' was in the title chase up until the very last race ........ go figure, but sometimes fast and furious is not the ideal way to the end of the road
 

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