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How can you even start explaining a point with a sentence like that?
And did you watch sunday's race? Actually, do you even watch motoGP?
How can you even start explaining a point with a sentence like that?
And did you watch sunday's race? Actually, do you even watch motoGP?
I believe that Jumkie is unhappy with the support they offered KRJR and Hopkins, with some justification imo. KRJR has expounded about how they hardly expended anything to keep the bike competitive after his title win.
Joined Feb 2018
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Suzuki bikes and teams from KRJR's and Hopkin's time and today's ones are two completely different things, happening in completely different eras of the sport, so this doesn't make any sense (with all due respect).
Sure, I personally think they are doing fairly well currently given their resources relative to other teams, particularly HRC. I will admit to some attitudes myself forged as far back as 2007 and 2008 though.
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Norah Head
Confirmed
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/897636/1/official-honda-signs-lorenzo-twoyear-deal
And Petrucci to take the vacant Ducati seat with Millar now on a 2019 factory spec. Duc. But with Pramac.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/897636/1/official-honda-signs-lorenzo-twoyear-deal
And Petrucci to take the vacant Ducati seat with Millar now on a 2019 factory spec. Duc. But with Pramac.
I share your perspective, unsurprisingly I guess. I think Petrucci is a journeyman. Miller may end up no better, but at this point in time there are still possibilities for him.
Given their experiences with Iannone, and the Lorenzo “Code 8” thing, I guess Petrucci looks like a safer bet than Jack. I don’t have great faith in Ducati’s powers of discernment in regard to riders though, the main good choices they have made ie Stoner and Dovi have been more or less by accident without much in the way of expectations.
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Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Agree, and I'll add, replacing Contractslow with Nicky. Nonetheless, Jlo's departure promoted both Miller and Petrucci. I think Miller will have the opportunity to shine if he is to shine. Petrucci has ran the satellite 'factory' spec bike and has several times beat the factory proper team, twice close to a win. There's no reason to disbelieve Miller will have same opportunity. This isn't the old Barros satellite expectations of a junior team where they were expected to stay behind the factory bike. It's Miller's time to prove it now.
If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
Sure, I didn't intend to dismiss Nicky, I regard the whole 800 formula as more or less designed to be anti-Nicky, although the main aim was following a Honda engineering philosophy to which midget riders were theoretically suited. He did about as well as could be expected on the Ducati without risking crashing every second race as Stoner did, and Ducati were mostly on the (obviously futile) path of attempting to transform the 800 Ducati into an 800 Yamaha to suit whomever between Rossi or Lorenzo they could sign for most of his Ducati tenure.
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
I can only think of 15 million reasons to jump ship.
If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
There's a lot who have tried, that's for sure.
I honestly do think that Marc could win a title on it. Maybe not first season though.
It's like the Duc' is Excalibur and whoever can make it work is the rightful king of Ducati and heir to Casey's throne.
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Happy Syahrin re-signed.
https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/136543/tech3-completes-lineup-for-first-ktm-season
Bradley Smith, retirement?
If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/136543/tech3-completes-lineup-for-first-ktm-season
Bradley Smith, retirement?
If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
Joined Mar 2016
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FNQ
Factory teams
Movistar Yamaha
Valentino Rossi Yamaha M1 2020
Maverick Viñales Yamaha M1 2020
Repsol Honda
Marc Márquez Honda RC213V 2020
Jorge Lorenzo Honda RC213V 2020
Ecstar Suzuki
Alex Rins Suzuki GSX-RR 2020
Joan Mir? Suzuki GSX-RR 2020?
Gresini Aprilia
Aleix Espargaro Aprilia RS-GP 2020
Andrea Iannone? Aprilia RS-GP 2020?
KTM Factory
Johann Zarco KTM RC16 2020
Pol Espargaro KTM RC16 2020
Ducati Team
Andrea Dovizioso Ducati GP19 2020
Danilo Petrucci Ducati GP19 2019
Independent Teams
Pramac Ducati
Pecco Bagnaia Ducati GP19? 2020
Jack Miller Ducati GP19 2019
LCR Honda
Cal Crutchlow Honda RC213V 2019
Takaaki Nakagami? Honda RC213V 2019?
Tech3 KTM
Miguel Oliveira KTM RC16 2019
Hafizh Syahrin KTM RC16 2019
Marc VDS?
Franco Morbidelli? Honda RC213V 2019
Alex Márquez? Honda RC213V ?
Angel Nieto Team/Sepang-Petronas
Franco Morbidelli? Yamaha M1
Dani Pedrosa/Andrea Iannone? Yamaha M1
Avintia Ducati
Xavier Simeon Ducati GP17? 2019
Tito Rabat? Ducati GP18
Joined Sep 2016
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A winding country road.
For what it’s worth, IMHO. Ducati made the right decision in keeping Petrucci (1yr contract?). With the new fixed wings and anti doping they will need to focus on development which I one of his strengths. It's the reason Aprilia had a contract on the table for him, unfortunately with Iannone and Espargaro they will struggle with development for the next 2 years. While I would have liked seeing Jack move to Ducati leaving him at Pramac isn't bad. The mistake of not preloading the front suspension last race is not a mistake the top teams/riders would have made. Jack trys everything the team suggests and has surely been taking note of the results. His commentary after the crash "It won't happen again" may point to a more decisive setup direction by him.
The technical changes coming next year may disadvantage KTM the least, and with their new engine it would be great to see Zarco hanging off the end of the leading pack.
While I agree Suzuki suck for not going after Lorenzo, keeping Rins was a right decision. It's a big ask to keep the bike going in the right direction with such an inexperienced teammate, but I think he's up to it.
The big question with Lorenzo and HRC... I don't know. Lorenzo looks like he has changed his style to try to accommodate the Ducati somewhat, maybe the success or lack of it for the rest of the year may be some indication. At least he should be faster than Pedro which would put him in podium contention. If they want to change the bike into a high corner speed bike they can, it's been done before (rumors Marquez leaving after 2020, Lorenzo riding out his career there).
Out of the new guys I like is Morbidelli, baring last weeks tyre fiasco he seems to be coming up to speed nicely.
The technical changes coming next year may disadvantage KTM the least, and with their new engine it would be great to see Zarco hanging off the end of the leading pack.
While I agree Suzuki suck for not going after Lorenzo, keeping Rins was a right decision. It's a big ask to keep the bike going in the right direction with such an inexperienced teammate, but I think he's up to it.
The big question with Lorenzo and HRC... I don't know. Lorenzo looks like he has changed his style to try to accommodate the Ducati somewhat, maybe the success or lack of it for the rest of the year may be some indication. At least he should be faster than Pedro which would put him in podium contention. If they want to change the bike into a high corner speed bike they can, it's been done before (rumors Marquez leaving after 2020, Lorenzo riding out his career there).
Out of the new guys I like is Morbidelli, baring last weeks tyre fiasco he seems to be coming up to speed nicely.
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Sure, MM is acutely aware of history as he has demonstrated on many occasions, and I suspect will want to win titles for multiple marques, although he has a competing historical agenda of winning more titles than Valentino I strongly suspect as well; I guess there is a fair chance he will have at least equalled him by the end of 2020. It would have to be to Ducati though, I don't see any way he goes to Yamaha if Valentino is in a role of any prominence there.
I completely agree that if Honda want to build a cornerspeed bike they can.
Is Abraham using an Avintia licence or his own team licence whilst riding for Avintia (ie. did he sell his team's licence?).
Wondering as if the licence is his then there is a spot there, if the licence is Avintia's then no spot exists
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A winding country road.
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Norah Head
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Pomona NY
The attention and focus on Lorenzo at the next race, to see if the last was a fluke, will be intense.
