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Sachsenring GP Race Discussion

One of Dani's best rides in recent years. Enahorabuena, Dani! Sooo proud of you.
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Congrats to Pedro. Finally came from behind to win.



Whoa, Jumkie giving props to Dani. My week has been made.
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Jum You are Tosser dude. What else is there to talk about?































Edit post anyone?? Our Messiah has really gone off the deep end
 
Congrats to Dani, great race from him and also very different as well normally he clears off in first couple of laps but in this race he was patient behind Lorenzo for half the race and then he passed him and cleared off. Sensible ride from Lorenzo to bring it home for 2nd place but real fun was the battle for 3rd place between Rossi and Stoner. I think Rossi thought Stoner is not gonna make desperate move in the last corner thats why he didn't cover that corner fully and paid the price in the end, it was very aggressive move from Casey but in the end this is racing.



Wasn't Rossi's move at Laguna on Stoner aggressive also?

As far as I'm concerned as soon as Rossi got on the track then its on!

Who care if he broke his leg as soon as you go on the track your treated the same as anyone else.



Casey set him up, Rossi thought Casey was gonna try the corner before and he fell for it!



Rossi may be injured but he has a way better bike.



Look at how well the Yamaha and Honda get of the turns compared to the Ducati.



No doubt Rossi rode real well, no one can deny that!



Cheers



Gecko Hunter
 
Wasn't Rossi's move at Laguna on Stoner aggressive also?

As far as I'm concerned as soon as Rossi got on the track then its on!

Who care if he broke his leg as soon as you go on the track your treated the same as anyone else.



Casey set him up, Rossi thought Casey was gonna try the corner before and he fell for it!



Rossi may be injured but he has a way better bike.



Look at how well the Yamaha and Honda get of the turns compared to the Ducati.



No doubt Rossi rode real well, no one can deny that!



Cheers



Gecko Hunter

Did you read my post carefully dude, i did say in the end that it is racing you win some and you loose some. Rossi didn't cry like Stoner did Laguna did he?
 
that would be 'no'



and the Ducati gets off the turns just fine, how else could Stoner have made the pass.

Stoner's Ducati rides by remote control. Stoner has nothing to do with it. On the other hand, only Rossi controls his machine. He Is the only life entity, though supernatural, on the grid. While it may appear Lorenzo rides the same machine Rossi has, but faster, its bcuz Rossi developed it, and the lifelike humans aboard both the 99 & 27 motorcycles r simplly ther to fool us. It all remote control...except Rossi.
 
Stoner's Ducati rides by remote control. Stoner has nothing to do with it. On the other hand, only Rossi controls his machine. He Is the only life entity, though supernatural, on the grid. While it may appear Lorenzo rides the same machine Rossi has, but faster, its bcuz Rossi developed it, and the lifelike humans aboard both the 99 & 27 motorcycles r simplly ther to fool us. It all remote control...except Rossi.





You must be king of the boppers with a post like this.
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aint that the truth. Plus all the Hater's would have set this board alight, like the jerez 05 pass. It's only ok if it's not rossi pulling that move
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But just like jerez i personally think its hard but fair.



i almost said "i can't believe you are comparing this move to when Rossi punted Sete off the track" but i caught myself because i actually can believe you would say that. doesn't make it any less dumb though.



and i truly can't wait until Rossi retires. the board would be so much better.
 
Did you read my post carefully dude, i did say in the end that it is racing you win some and you loose some. Rossi didn't cry like Stoner did Laguna did he?



Not this time, but I seem to recall him having a sook when Elias was giving a hard time (Catalunya I think last 09 or 08).



Just pointing out that it wasn't an aggressive move thats all.



Cheers



Gecko Hunter
 
Stoner's Ducati rides by remote control. Stoner has nothing to do with it. On the other hand, only Rossi controls his machine. He Is the only life entity, though supernatural, on the grid. While it may appear Lorenzo rides the same machine Rossi has, but faster, its bcuz Rossi developed it, and the lifelike humans aboard both the 99 & 27 motorcycles r simplly ther to fool us. It all remote control...except Rossi.



Hang on that would be Stoner AND Haydens Ducati's ride by remote control............obviously Haydens "Controller" isn't doing a very good job. And I believe that Rossi's Yamaha has just as much or more electronic wizardry on it now. Was he quoted as saying at one time "its so easy it feels like cheating" in reference to the electronics controlling suspension or something?



Good ride by Barbara I thought he got an awesome start!



And in reference to another post there is no way the Duck gets out out of the corners faster, Stoner set the move up a corner before, pushed him wide so Rossi had to chop the throttle, otherwise Rossi would have had it.



Cheers



Gecko Hunter.
 
I'm almost starting to like Pedrosa. Last time out was with out doubt his best recovery ever as he sliced through the field as if he were Rossi, and now this. Hard and aggressive battle with Lorenzo
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Rossi had a fantastic race considering and it was good to see him more or less on pace with the rest of the aliens.

Stoner were... strange. Almost waiting for Rossi loosing .7 a lap and then hanging in there. I bet it's not all praise at Ducati for that performance. No doubt they will question his motivation from here on.



But as EVERYONE of the forum agreed on, the final move was hard but fair. All the more strange that the two CLOWNS on the forum has not only lost their ability for logic reasoning but they clearly lost their ability to read.
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Well said Stoner. Rossi was great with the injured leg, but many others ride with the injury too. Stoner was really sick at Cataluniya last year, and he vomited into his helmet. I think it is the harder to race with the urge to vomit than with the injured leg. To non Rossi worshipper, his comeback coverage is simply overhyped. His comments were not personal attack, just observance.



On the other hand, Rossi said "It was a great battle with Stoner, congratulations to him. If it happened the other way around he would surely have cried like he did after Laguna Seca [in 2008], but this is racing. I'm happy because he was smiling at the end. He also said “next question, please” when he was asked about the JL`s gesture of wearing his T-shirt at the Mugello podium. In terms of bitchy-ness, no one can challenge him.
 
Hang on that would be Stoner AND Haydens Ducati's ride by remote control............obviously Haydens "Controller" isn't doing a very good job. And I believe that Rossi's Yamaha has just as much or more electronic wizardry on it now. Was he quoted as saying at one time "its so easy it feels like cheating" in reference to the electronics controlling suspension or something?



Good ride by Barbara I thought he got an awesome start!



And in reference to another post there is no way the Duck gets out out of the corners faster, Stoner set the move up a corner before, pushed him wide so Rossi had to chop the throttle, otherwise Rossi would have had it.



Cheers



Gecko Hunter.

Stoner must be superhumanlybeyondmessiahlikegodcreature to pass anyone then if that duck is so slow.....



Absolute classic- hey jum, WTF is wrong with nickys remote???? It's fooked
 
Stoner's Ducati rides by remote control. Stoner has nothing to do with it. On the other hand, only Rossi controls his machine. He Is the only life entity, though supernatural, on the grid. While it may appear Lorenzo rides the same machine Rossi has, but faster, its bcuz Rossi developed it, and the lifelike humans aboard both the 99 & 27 motorcycles r simplly ther to fool us. It all remote control...except Rossi.



Do we have always to fall for these inane arguments that have nothing to do with racing? If there are silly people entertaining silly ideas, let them be. We can read similar useless and endless debates about Rossi in many lesser forums, if we care. Here, we should discuss the real stuff, not the propaganda.
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I agree with the crippled hero and playing it up for the sympathy bit. Stoner just talking straight.





Oh im laffin my ... off at the Boppers in a tizzy over Casey's "hard move". Haha.



its true i tell ya Rossi raced with 1 leg and should be allowed through
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from the Mirror

Rossi fourth.. on one leg <<<<<<<<<
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19/07/2010



MOTOGP



Valentino Rossi just missed out on a remarkable podium finish on his return from a broken leg at the German Grand Prix.



"I have never been so happy for a fourth place," said the seventime champion, just six weeks after his horrific crash in practice for the Italian GP.





Read more: http://www.mirror.co.../#ixzz0u6xFoM5J



BACK OT NOW
 
From GpOne :



The joke came in response to a question from Carlo Pernat, during the Italian post race television show, when the manager insisted on Rossi finding at least one reason why Yamaha should let him get away: "I don't know why Yamaha would let me go. If it was to happen, maybe it is because I am old."



We all know, however, that there is a little bit of truth in every joke. Vale's contract expires at the end of the year, and everyone assumes he has already reached a deal with Ducati. The rider himself says that nothing will be announced until after Brno, and this gives the Italian some time to show Yamaha what they will be missing. He also wouldn't mind making Lorenzo's title run a bit complicated in the process.



So your return to racing went pretty well. Are you happy?



"Well of course it would have been nice to finish on the podium, but it wouldn't change much. What counts is the race that I ran. Yesterday I said I would likely be in the top 5, but I never thought I could finish fourth, fighting with Stoner for the podium until the last corner. Even more surprising was that I finished so close behind Lorenzo, doing the second fastest lap of the race. It ended up better than even my most optimistic expectations."



You had a real battle with Stoner.



"It was cool, exchanging passes right up until the end. It was really nice."



Do you think you got rid of the rustiness from you time off?



"I'm still missing a lot of feeling when I first put on new tires. I was struggling a bit in the first laps, but being able to race this weekend is like gold for my recovery. Every time I get on the bike I am a little bit better, and I can get back to making adjustments to improve the bike. Seat time is very important to a racer, and the less time you are away the less time it takes to recover."



What was it that made you realize you could come back?



"The weeks were going by and I was constantly improving, so my comeback date was pushed up. I am riding the well, and if I look at images of myself on the bike it looks like I am riding normally. Naturally the leg still hurts a little bit, but the intense rehabilitation work I did has been crucial. I'm also happy about the shoulder, because it was bothering me a lot in the races before my leg injury."



Still not the best condition for a fight with Stoner...



"I have had a lot of battles with him and with Lorenzo. And racing with an injured leg is a big advantage... you don't have any pressure on you to win."



Could we see another duel with Stoner at Laguna Seca?



"I'd be happy to. My objective for Laguna is to do a little better than I did here. It is a very difficult track and I like it a lot. There are a lot of left turns there as well, which should help with my injury like it has here at Sachsenring. Then there will be almost three weeks of rest before Brno, so I should be in pretty good shape for the Czech Republic."



Was the pain in your leg a factor in the last corner incident?



"Well first of all it seems like I provide a lot of motivation for all the other riders. Stoner was lapping in 1'22.6/7, but when I passed him he starting doing 22.1's. Everyone wants to finish ahead of me. All that said, the problem was that I was expecting him to attack in the previous corner, so I rode a defensive line. He was smart and used this to get a run



At a certain point it looked like Dovizioso was holding you up.



"It's true. Without him I surely could have caught Lorenzo, considering the times I was putting in."



Overall a very positive result then?



"My goal was to get back in shape for Misano, but if I continue like this I will be ok a lot sooner."



What score would you give yourself for this race?



"Nine. No, actually eight, because I got taken at the end!"
 
I don't know how anyone could have a problem with Stoner's pass, you don' have to like it, but it was fair.
 

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