Rossi on a Ducati, WHne will they win?

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Will Rossi win in 2011

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Funny how the poll doesn't give a next season option but does give a "never" option
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Chops....I think it just means "Never" for 2011.........



I don't go in for polls..........one thing for sure.....A win this year will be bloody hard.
 
I never thought he would get a win this season, ive stated this in many other threads

2012 will be Ducati/rossi season but i think he will not find it easy. Dispite what some say i think the bike is changing for the better but theres a lot more work to do.



Funny how the poll doesn't give a next season option but does give a "never" option
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Well then why does the poll say you think he would get a win within the first 5 rounds of 2011?
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Rossi who ? oh the guy who has had the duc completely redesigned to suit his "style" and still cant win on it like casey ! ohhh that guy...
 
I agree........possibly the "Italian on an Italian motorcycle" carries a fair whack of marketing power, but the knowledge that JB would come on board with him would have been a major factor.



As good as Rossi is/may be......he's smart enough to stick with JB. We all have a little black reference book we take to the track to dial in bike settings for that days weather, track temp ect.......imagine the book JB has !!



No matter which rider is on the bike, and what they are saying it is/isn't doing.......30 years and three world champions worth of info to draw upon.



Honda was lost until this year after he left,



Yamaha may well end up back where they were before JB .......I really hope not........I would like good, close racing between all makes......but that's been a dream for the 25 years I've been following this sport....always one manufacturer on top/far ahead of the others in any given year/years.



The only exception would be Schwantz on that bloody ....-box Suzuki. That was nothing short of will-power and determination.........even when he was finishing second to Rainey. (Which, championship wise, was every year till Rainey's terrible accident)



Don't get me wrong.........I am a Suzuki man when it comes to road bikes, but they have never been able to build a decent GP bike since the mid 80's........and that is open for some serious debate.



.......I am also a rabid Schwantz fan.
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The best we can hope for is that Yamaha learnt something from JB, that Ducati does, and that Honda stay as competitive as they are now.



Then we may get some real close racing.



And wouldn't that be a fitting legacy to JB if/when he retires......that he left the sport having influnced the direction of all the main players to a point where they are all competitive machines.





....now.....if he'd just go to Suzuki before he retires.
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Ahhh... so you do have a redeeming quality.
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Of course !!!



I just got bloody jumped on. if you read that first ever post, all I said was I don't like Stoner, and his bloody whinging.



......I didn't realise it was a capitol offence that caused people to instantly hurl personal insults.



Schwantz is a prime example of the attitude in riders that I do like.



I think I can remember him having a mild ..... about how .... the Suzuki ( and their direction) was twice, and this was after the umptienth time he had been asked about his reputation as a "crasher"



The best reply I saw him give to that statement , was to a women reporter from Channel 9 here in Aus,



went something like....(Schwantz looking like he was going to say...." Ahhhhh, get faaaarked") "where do other Suzuki's, in as far as my teammates or private bikes finish?"



Reporter "ummmm"



Schwantz " I'll tell you, 10th, 15th or whatever.....I think I'm just pushing the bike a bit harder, and when you're pushing it that hard, it only takes a very small mistake to bring you down"





A nice way of saying, The bike is .... lady.





Go Kev !
 
Of course !!!



I just got bloody jumped on. if you read that first ever post, all I said was I don't like Stoner, and his bloody whinging.



......I didn't realise it was a capitol offence that caused people to instantly hurl personal insults.



Schwantz is a prime example of the attitude in riders that I do like.



I think I can remember him having a mild ..... about how .... the Suzuki ( and their direction) was twice, and this was after the umptienth time he had been asked about his reputation as a "crasher"



The best reply I saw him give to that statement , was to a women reporter from Channel 9 here in Aus,



went something like....(Schwantz looking like he was going to say...." Ahhhhh, get faaaarked") "where do other Suzuki's, in as far as my teammates or private bikes finish?"



Reporter "ummmm"



Schwantz " I'll tell you, 10th, 15th or whatever.....I think I'm just pushing the bike a bit harder, and when you're pushing it that hard, it only takes a very small mistake to bring you down"





A nice way of saying, The bike is .... lady.





Go Kev !





Guilty as charged.

You see this site has a history of Rossi fans & Stoner fans verbally bashing the bejesus out of each other.

Every now & again we actually get back to discussing the racing without all the other fanboy crap.

When I read your first post, my immediate reaction was that you were an older account & were looking to turn discussion back to a my rider is a saint & yours is the antichrist direction.

My apologies if I was mistaken.

Personally I don't understand the need to bash any of the riders, regardless of who you support. But that isn't a view shared by many here.
 
Schwantz & the Suzuki sound a very similar situation to Stoner & the Ducati. Except I never heard Stoner badmouth the bike or his teamates, whether they were on factory or satellite equipment. So, in this case it seems Schwantz is a whinger, based on your standards. Double standards dipshit.
 
Sorry Mrs Stoner.
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The things Stoner laid on Pedrosa when he (Pedrobot) turned up to race at the Island with busted bones were a little on the nose.



I'm glad Pedrobot let the bike do the talking that day
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The things he said after a ding-dong battle at Laguna were a little stupid,....and he knew it. So Rossi ...... up at the corkscrew......and if Stoner hadn't been the rider he is, yes, they both would have been in the .....



Not the first stupid over taking move/....-up in the history of our sport.....and definately not the last.



The moaning about Donnington......... a little silly......remember Schwantz going down on Konsinski's oil 91 or 92 ? He was in with a good shot at the championship, and after going down due to the marshall not waving the oil flag.....he went up to the marshall, grabbed the flag....and waved it for the rest of the race so that other riders ( including Rainey, who then extended his points lead over Schwantz) did not come down.



No whinging, and a true show of sportsmanship.



Quit with the personal attacks.



It's only an opinion........at the end of the day, yours, mine, and anyone elses is all .........
 
Chops....I think it just means "Never" for 2011.........



I don't go in for polls..........one thing for sure.....A win this year will be bloody hard.





You poms
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Never means never ........ I know you don't believe it, being blind boppers, but my reconing is that if we don't see Rossi win this year at all ....... then we won't see him win again. You have to remember also that when I started that poll, we didn't know definitely that Rossi was such a failure on the Duc. So Never actually meant NEVER.
 
You poms
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Never means never ........ I know you don't believe it, being blind boppers, but my reconing is that if we don't see Rossi win this year at all ....... then we won't see him win again. You have to remember also that when I started that poll, we didn't know definitely that Rossi was such a failure on the Duc. So Never actually meant NEVER.

Karma barry. Please don't tempt it, as jb and valentino possibly did before this season. Rossi will win races next year imo.
 
Karma barry. Please don't tempt it, as jb and valentino possibly did before this season. Rossi will win races next year imo.





Oh yeah me too!!
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No but to be honest ( I'm not really a believer in jinxes not when I don't really care how Rossi goes ), I figure that Rossi has never gone long without a win ....... therefore its a pretty unusual situation. The usual situation has been that he could win again ...... therefore the unusual ......
 
Is this poll right??? or just a fantasy???
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Because after what’s happened at Silverstone the 'Never win a race' looks the most likely oh unless It's raining and all the field falls off
 

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Lets compare this at the end of 2011 with Vals statistics? Only time will tell because so far up until race 6 the record stands at:



Lets see if val can match Stoner from 2010 in 2011, and the standings are up to race 5:



1st x 3

2nd x 2

3rd x 4

4th x 1

5th x 3

DNF or DNS x5



1st

2nd

3th x1

4th

5th x3

6th x1

7th x1

DNF or DNS
 
Lets compare this at the end of 2011 with Vals statistics? Only time will tell because so far up until race 6 the record stands at:



Lets see if val can match Stoner from 2010 in 2011, and the standings are up to race 5:



1st x 3

2nd x 2

3rd x 4

4th x 1

5th x 3

DNF or DNS x5



1st

2nd

3th x1

4th

5th x3

6th x1

7th x1

DNF or DNS



How can it be after 5 races if you put 6 results down? Cant you even count to 6?
 
All the haters on this thread should keep in mind that after six races last season Stoner has 51 points and one podium, and this his fourth season on the Ducati.



Stoner had had two crashes by this point, but on here it is rationalized by the incredible speed that Stoner had - even though he didn't win a race until the second half the season.
 
Just seen this on Motomatters:



The problem is at the rear. The swingarm has virtually zero flex at extreme lean angles compared to the Yamaha, and because of the lean angle the forks have less ability to damp the vertical forces (like ripples etc) and these forces therefore cause the front end to break traction, hence the front-end loses that have characterised the Ducati over recent years.



It's a good point and explains why Rossi is struggling...but he is the the Doctor and will find a long-term solution to it (the GP12 is already said to have lost the rear-wheel pumping issues that the GP11 has), rather than just adopting a short-term 'win or bin it' mentality.
 

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